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I don't know really. First time see him play as #6 and he did very well. We don't know the detail, but he can improve his defensive quality under Mourinho for the #6 role. Alonso, Carrick despite his tall physique is quite weak/ light weight, Pirlo, Busquet, Verrati... made names in this position. The key is the balancer role #8 to offset the weakness of the #6. If Mourinho sees future for Pereira in this role, then he surely knows to build a team to help him out. At the moment, I don't know any better.
Interesting. So, this is his first time in #6. He did well. But, Mourinho always had primarily defensive players there like Makalele, Alonso, Matic etc. Alonso is a special case though as he could dictate play and get stuck in. In our team, Schneiderlin seems best fit for this duty.

In case of Perreira, he seems more of a versatile than a specialist type of player. He needs to settle down and master one position
 
I don't agree with this assessment. Veratti is natural deep players maker and has been honing his skill there. Pereira only has his first game in senior level as #6. If you ask Veratti to play winger or #10 then you can easily criticize him for not playing like an attacker too.

Pereira did very well this game if you compared to Carrick & Herrera. Don't expect bossing possession all game. that's not what Mourinho wants. Perreira keep the game moving. Quick touch and pass . If you look at Herrera and Carrick and Mata who usually slow down play even without pressure for no reason with excessive extra touch, Perreira did better.

He was a deep lying play maker. If he can keep the game moving like this, no need to zig zag dribbling as there is no point with no pressure. Please no Lallana pointless Cruyff turn.

Tired of the myth that Carrick takes extra touches. Normally he receives the ball with one touch and passes it with the next touch. Very rarely does he use more than three touches.
 
Tired of the myth that Carrick takes extra touches. Normally he receives the ball with one touch and passes it with the next touch. Very rarely does he use more than three touches.

There are people who believes this? :lol: Carrick's first touch almost always coincides with him moving and positioning his body to make the pass with his second touch. And he's been here for a decade. What have people been watching?
 
There are people who believes this? :lol: Carrick's first touch almost always coincides with him moving and positioning his body to make the pass with his second touch. And he's been here for a decade. What have people been watching?
They do exist, as my quoted post showed. Maybe the same people who say he only passes the ball backwards?
 
Some nice words from Jose about his game so I hope he'll get a proper chance this year.
 
Those comments from Jose seem to suggest that whilst Andreas is god he would rather he goes out on loan, which is a shame because he is ready to play EL, FAC and CC at least
 
Carrick has declined a lot tho in defense of those posters, he isnt the same Carrick as two and four years ago, who was a master in forward passes and one touch, he was quite poor last season when fit.
He still plays with few touches, he's just not as good. The same people were saying the same things five years ago also.
 
I'm not sure i buy this "you don't play young players when there is pressure" stuff that Jose keeps saying. He said the same at Chelsea
Almost sounds like an excuse for not playing young players.
Some of our best young era have shown in high pressure situations. For example Rashford came last year when we were in dire need of goals.
Maybe, I have misunderstood him.
 
He did well to score, because without goal that looked like a subpar midfield performance from Rooney against a subpar team. A couple sideway passes and a nice long through ball is not reminiscent of scholes.
 
Too many short simple passes, backward and sideways, so I'm not convinced yet. But it was just a pre season match so may be he's been instructed by Mourinho to play safe. Although that pass and vision to Valencia was great and the goal wasn't bad either. It was good to watch him yesterday as a #6.
 
Tired of the myth that Carrick takes extra touches. Normally he receives the ball with one touch and passes it with the next touch. Very rarely does he use more than three touches.
Watch the game. Count how long till Carrick release his pass. Then watch Pereira this game, and count how long before he released his pass. Majority time, Pereira takes less than half the time Carrick spent on ball. Carrick may not necessarily take more touch, but Carrick definitely slower to release his ball. It's early day, but Pereira gives off the vibe off a #6 who can speed up the tempo like Scholes while Carrick usually prefers a slower pace.
 
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Too many short simple passes, backward and sideways, so I'm not convinced yet. But it was just a pre season match so may be he's been instructed by Mourinho to play safe. Although that pass and vision to Valencia was great and the goal wasn't bad either. It was good to watch him yesterday as a #6.

From that position a young player was always going to be pressured by the opposition. If i was the Wigan coach I would have been telling my players to squeeze him as soon as the ball was moving to him. If you have a good look he handled it well, he often had 3-4 Wigan players bearing down on him and often his passes switched out to a wide fullback and then bypassed the Wigan mid. there is more to sideways and back passes than meets the eye. He did what he should have been doing quickly, efficiently and was tidy. I thought he did well in what he did, he had no choice because of the Wigan mid pressure but to find safe outlets quickly and when he could he looked to do something that helped bypass the Wigan mid.
 
Pereira would be a good #8, he's not a #6 like Carrick, Mensah or Goss would be better at the #6 role. Pereira has all the attributes to turn into a top #8 passing, vision, technique and with a little more patience he'll get better in tackles.
 
I think Pereira can be one of those rare #8s that possess the instincts of a top #6 in terms of slowing the game/speeding it up, recycling possession and switching up play. Weather he reaches his potential fast enough for Jose is another question.
 
If we dont sign Pogba then I want him to have his spot. He's got everything technically, just needs to improve his toughness.
 
Watch the game. Count how long till Carrick release his pass. Then watch Pereira this game, and count how long before he released his pass. Majority time, Pereira takes less than half the time Carrick spent on ball. Carrick may not necessarily take more touch, but Carrick definitely slower to release his ball. It's early day, but Pereira gives off the vibe off a #6 who can speed up the tempo like Scholes while Carrick usually prefers a slower pace.
spot on, doesn't matter how few touches Carrick takes, his general movement is terrible, takes ages for him before he release the ball and he's in big trouble when the opposing team presses, actually he's decent in covering the ball and while not built like a tank, he can hold on to it but he passes it usually backwards as he doesn't posses the ability to quickly turn and dribble out of situations, that's what Pereira has but he on the other hand needs to bulk up a bit or just build this awarness, sometimes he's a bit sloppy in possession in a way that he let the opposing player come too close but that can be trained, otherwise he has all the skillset to boss games from deep, Carrick could do it but he needs slow paced games when we are on top..
 
How good is Pereira and how good can he get? I've not seen him at youth level, just the first team appearances. Is his potential really that high? In terms of potential at youth level, is he comparable to Rossi/Pogba?
 
How good is Pereira and how good can he get? I've not seen him at youth level, just the first team appearances. Is his potential really that high? In terms of potential at youth level, is he comparable to Rossi/Pogba?

How can he get ? only god knows that . But for me he should model his games on modric or verrati . He have the attributes
 
How good is Pereira and how good can he get? I've not seen him at youth level, just the first team appearances. Is his potential really that high? In terms of potential at youth level, is he comparable to Rossi/Pogba?

I rate his talent in the top bracket. He has everything to his game save for great pace or strength. He can play no 6, no 8, no 10 and as a wide forward/winger on either side. He can beat a man with skill. He genuinely is two footed (takes corners with both feet. He is a dead ball specialist and he a good passer of the ball.

He is definitely comparable to Pogba and Rossi is terms of potential IMO.
 
For all these talks about how he should model his game after Verratti, in contrast he could do well when playing in a #8 position similar to Iniesta at Barca I suppose. He has the passing technique, dribbling ability, agility and a good shot on him.
 
For all these talks about how he should model his game after Verratti, in contrast he could do well when playing in a #8 position similar to Iniesta at Barca I suppose. He has the passing technique, dribbling ability, agility and a good shot on him.

Better comparison IMO
 
Didn't get enough time today but bar one poor pass did fine, I'd really like to see him get a start against City on Monday.
 
For all these talks about how he should model his game after Verratti, in contrast he could do well when playing in a #8 position similar to Iniesta at Barca I suppose. He has the passing technique, dribbling ability, agility and a good shot on him.

Agree, I see a touch of Xavi/Iniesta in his movement and technique, which is obviously a good thing. I think he can go on to become a top player, whether he gets the opportunities and more importantly takes them with us before he becomes inpatient or frustrated is another thing altogether though.
 
I hope he is given a real chance this season, looks like he has a lot of talent.
 
I expect Jose will be eager to show his youth credentials this year, and Pereira is the academy's top talent after Rashford and we've heard his good comments about him, so I think he will be in the plans for the first team sooner rather than later. With Pogba coming in and a 4-2-3-1 formation being preferred during pre-season it was interesting to see Pereira tried out at #6 rather than in a forward position. The wings, #10, #9 are now all signed or firmly taken (until Rooney flops). So could he really be thinking of Pereira as #6 and Pogba as #8? Seems to be the opposite of LVG's two defensive CM's. If Rooney does flop would he move Mickey to #10 and Pereira to right wing? (Mostly played left wing for Brazil I think). Or put swap Pereira in for Rooney at #10? Or put Pogba at #10 and Pereira at #8. This is one of the key things I will be looking forward to emerging this season and it seems quite a mystery for now, especially with a 4-2-3-1 formation and Rooney still playing. In a 4-3-3 without Rooney then I can see Pogba and Pereira ahead of a CDM which I would love to see providing service to Martial Ibra Mickey. Thoughts?
 
I think he'll get more opportunities but no chance of him being a regular starter. I wouldn't be against it though, kid's got a lot of potential.
 
I expect Jose will be eager to show his youth credentials this year, and Pereira is the academy's top talent after Rashford and we've heard his good comments about him, so I think he will be in the plans for the first team sooner rather than later. With Pogba coming in and a 4-2-3-1 formation being preferred during pre-season it was interesting to see Pereira tried out at #6 rather than in a forward position. The wings, #10, #9 are now all signed or firmly taken (until Rooney flops). So could he really be thinking of Pereira as #6 and Pogba as #8? Seems to be the opposite of LVG's two defensive CM's. If Rooney does flop would he move Mickey to #10 and Pereira to right wing? (Mostly played left wing for Brazil I think). Or put swap Pereira in for Rooney at #10? Or put Pogba at #10 and Pereira at #8. This is one of the key things I will be looking forward to emerging this season and it seems quite a mystery for now, especially with a 4-2-3-1 formation and Rooney still playing. In a 4-3-3 without Rooney then I can see Pogba and Pereira ahead of a CDM which I would love to see providing service to Martial Ibra Mickey. Thoughts?
Either way I expect Pereira to shine if given the opportunity to. I think the variety in his play may open doors for him especially deeper ala Modric. The legs of Carrick and Schweinstiger won't carry them far, Fellaini doesn't exist and Rooney will very likely be out of form, this should leave room for him to compete with Herrera, Schneiderlin, Mata and maybe Blind.

I'm excited for him.
 
He has the ability to press a claim for first team spot this season I really believe that. I could certainly see him move above Mata and Herrera in the pecking order that's for sure and if Rooney continues to perform poorly who knows.

I'm confident he'll get a lot of minutes either way.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
The Mail (I know) saying he's been told he can go on loan but could have a future at the club. I'm not sure why people here believe Mourinho's suddenly going to trust young players who don't have much experience, he's never really done so before and I doubt we'd have recruited Mourinho believing we could change him. Hopefully Pereira does well, if he does go on loan, and proves that he's up to it.
 
IF that is true he wouldn't have been in the first team squad and got that number change. Doesn't make sense. So far we've already offloaded quite a few young players and loaned others, if it includes Pereira as well then he certainly can't be said to support youth even as much as LVG. I think he won't be going anywhere though.
 
IF that is true he wouldn't have been in the first team squad and got that number change. Doesn't make sense. So far we've already offloaded quite a few young players and loaned others, if it includes Pereira as well then he certainly can't be said to support youth even as much as LVG. I think he won't be going anywhere though.

Did I miss something?
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
The Mail (I know) saying he's been told he can go on loan but could have a future at the club. I'm not sure why people here believe Mourinho's suddenly going to trust young players who don't have much experience, he's never really done so before and I doubt we'd have recruited Mourinho believing we could change him. Hopefully Pereira does well, if he does go on loan, and proves that he's up to it.

Tell this to the Jose fanboys and you will be told its a myth
 
Just another overhyped youngster - in a couple of years all the experts in here will be telling us how he was never good enough in the first place.
 
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