devips
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The narrative here changes fast if the result is not to one's liking. First half was pretty fast, exciting, and antithesis of Van Gaal style. The second half was not so good admittedly.
Dull as dishwater and less exciting.Did I miss anything? Didn't see it.
They sure did. I initially thought my speakers had fecked up .Did BT Sport just cut off their own pundit there?
Now I really regret missing it.You didn't miss much, a new member entered the house who is only a celebrity because they won the regular version of Celebrities a couple of years back. Then Katie Hopkins said something edgy so the rest of the celebrities beat her with socks filled with batteries.
Yep but Jose will already know that Jones, Rojo and Young are dog chod. Tonight confirmed that for him.That and the fact that we're not going to be making 11 changes every game
The midfield in the first half looked better, it was just frustration when up against Everton's 3 at the back. With the new midfield signing I'd hope that'll improve.
All the second half showed was that we do have some shite that needs flushed out of this squad.
You missed feck all mate.
Cheers lads.Dull as dishwater and less exciting.
Yup. After Pogba we need another winger and experienced centre back in all honesty.Second half was dire, it is so obvious we are lacking in the wide areas.
If i was Mourinho i would seriously look at getting someone like Mahrez.
Instead of Ibra? Hell yes.Would you prefer Blind taking them, like last season?
I for one am shocked that we didn't immediately start playing beautiful attacking football.
The missus asked me if I have ever heard him tell a joke or have a laugh with the commentator. I seriously had to think about it and no, I haven't. Hargreaves has NO sense of humour whatsoever.Is Owen Hargreaves pissed? The shit legged wanker has said 'offensively' no less than a million times in his stupid accent
He's a better corner taker than most of(maybe all) the squad, and isn't going to do a job in the box like you'd normally expect of a CB, so why not?Would you prefer Blind taking them, like last season?
It was like watching a slug race on a track covered with salt.Did I miss anything? Didn't see it.
Andy Townsend is exactly the same, the commentator will crack a joke and it goes completely over his head.The missus asked me if I have ever heard him tell a joke or have a laugh with the commentator. I seriously had to think about it and no, I haven't. Hargreaves has NO sense of humour whatsoever.
I'd agree. It looks like he's settled, particularly the defence until Smalling comes back. We need more from Mkhitaryan than what he's shown so far though. Still lacking a player that can create something out of nothing on the wing.Bar Mkhitaryan yes it was, I just mean I hope he knows his 11 (add Smalling and hopefully Pogba) and is not chopping and changing much over the first few games of the season. He must now know that some of this squad should not even see the bench let alone first team.
feck off with your condescending bullshit. Don't post if you're not going to add something to the discussion.You ever watch football or just play CM
What were they saying?Listening to Rooney talking with Rio now is the best thing about tonight.
Just about how the team look different under Jose, what he (JM) is like behind the scenes although he didn't give much away, it was just that Rooney half turned away from Jake (not rudely, just naturally because he was talking to Rio) and it almost became a chat between two mates and much more natural than Rooney normally is on camera.What were they saying?
We definitely need more from Mkhitaryan but he still trumps Lingard for me on his worst day. I want to see him at 10 with Martial and Rashford either side of him but Rooney will start when fit for sure. I'd also love us to be for Mahrez but that seems even more unlikely than Wayne getting dropped.I'd agree. It looks like he's settled, particularly the defence until Smalling comes back. We need more from Mkhitaryan than what he's shown so far though. Still lacking a player that can create something out of nothing on the wing.
So disappointed. Would've been a great ending.
Abidal won 3 league titles, was included in French team of the year 3 times, was included in UEFA team of the year and was a starter in the WC final. He is definitely one of the stand-out defenders of his generation (which was poor on defenders though)Depends on what parameter you judge greatness by. Look at what these players did before or after the aforementioned achievements. If you think that this doesn't matter, we might as well pretend Valencia is a great since he was part of a double league winning team and a CL finalist. I am afraid you either have to very much widen your definition of world class or stop this nonsense about needing established names throughout the whole squad.
Really? For me first half, not to mention the second falf, was played at the walking pace. There was no intensity at all, coupled with very few runs made by our players. Mostly it was the players running into each others zones and interchanging few passes among themselves in the crowded area, passes that create zero space and gaps, it was especially dull since fullbacks were also instructed to be very conservative and we saw very few overlaps if any that also resulted in the pitch being narrow given that wide forwards/wingers were always drifting centrally.The narrative here changes fast if the result is not to one's liking. First half was pretty fast, exciting, and antithesis of Van Gaal style. The second half was not so good admittedly.
I don't really agree. With the way we've bought this summer, we have our forward spots filled out. Martial on the left was a revelation last season, and there is no reason a couple of sub-par performances in preseason can change what he did during the actual games. He almost carried us for large parts last year. Zlatan, Rooney, Rashford and Mata for the two forward spots is as good as it gets. Miki on the right is also a brilliant buy and could be much better than Maharez over the next 3-4 seasons. Where exactly do you think Maharez fits realistically?feck off with your condescending bullshit. Don't post if you're not going to add something to the discussion.
Mahrez is a perfectly realistic addition to our right side and would likely transform our attack.
I am expecting this to happen on Sunday. That's Jose's last prep game for the season, and he will want his best team to get some game time together.I do think the team needed at least two more friendlies before Sundays match.
Today was a nice run out to give the players a workout / minutes but there was never gonna be rhythm to the match especially with all the subs being made. Would have liked to see the first half team (with Mkhi instead of Jesse) and to get a good 60-70 minutes together.
Should I really dig out some of the names on that UEFA team of the year? Started a World Cup final? Adil Rami and Raphael Guerrero just started a Euro final as well, what is your point? Again as I said earlier, if you want to include Abidal as a top class defender, you will have to widen your definition because to me a top class defender of that generation would be Nesta, Costacorta, Cannavaro, Terry, Rio, Vidic, Puyol with several other ones that can be debatable. That's nor here or there anyway, the point I was making still remains that it's absurd this idea that is getting thrown around a lot, the one where someone throws a couple of players as an example of "less than world class" to suggest that this is the reason we need to buy more or whatever. You don't agree with Abidal, fair enough, how about Barcelona winning a treble with a squad that had Mathieu, Vermaelen and bleeding Bartra?Abidal won 3 league titles, was included in French team of the year 3 times, was included in UEFA team of the year and was a starter in the WC final. He is definitely one of the stand-out defenders of his generation (which was poor on defenders though)
Jesus ChristI know it's a preseason and all that, but I'm gonna stick my neck on the line and say that experiment 'Ibrahimovic' not gonna work out in the prem. I presume it will be all too slow for us, constantly with no one being in the box. Even if his build up play is world class unless Jose makes him work hard when defending and making regular runs in behind it's all set up to fail for me. From my point of view, that we were lacking was a forward that would harass defenders non-stop with natural aggression to their game in the mould of Tevez, Rooney (not the one we saw for the last few years mind), Suarez these type of strikers. Also seeing Mousa today earlier on I think we could have done with player like him. However, obviously, it's all just pure speculation right now but for me negative signs are there.