Rummenigge: Some players may think about it in future, to join a club like this.

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It's funny really, all the matches I went to, in the pub before hand, in the press, on our forums etc I never heard a word about Bastian being obviously out of shape, couldn't run or any of that bullsh!t you're vomiting out here.

He made 32 appearances, averaging 62 mins despite being unlucky to suffer 2 bad knee ligament injuries which is quite impressive considering. Does your visual fitness judging expertise cover injury problems too? Any insight into if his lazy attitude caused these injuries?

We knew he wasn't the player we saw at Bayern, that's why he couldn't get in their team, however he was more than good enough for us. When he played he worked harder than the likes of Ander, Mata or Depay but I don't hear anyone demanding they be punished or banished from the squad.
You haven't been looking very hard then. There's a plethora of people wanting shot of each of those players. Depay in particular.
 

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He's absolutely right. It's one thing to ask a player to leave, and another thing forcing him to train with the reserves, it's a classless move and it shows a massive lack of respect.
 

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Because our own fans are incredible drama queens. They fuel this shit.
You ain't wrong.

And we also have many fans who get behind individual players in a way - and to a degree - which is baffling at times.

Plus, there's a fair share who sit around waiting for Mourinho to confirm their prejudices. This is precisely the sort of thing he's supposed to do - according to their predictions.
 

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And people laughed when I posted that José was Hitler...
 

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The reason, I understand, he was banished to the reserves is that Mourinho told him plainly that he was surplus to his requirements, and asked him to find another club. Bastian refused to do that, probably because nobody else is likely to offer him that much in wages. What was Mou supposed to do? Overstaying your welcome can have weird consequences!

And he will stay. He is not likely to go anywhere. The name of the game is money.
 

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Yeah pretty much.

If you've ever thought "oh that plane flying over Old Trafford is a good idea"

If you've ever said "he's our cnut"

If you complained when we won titles about "zombie passing"

If you've been involved with wishing Mourinho would come to Old Trafford.

Well this is what you get. People who go to games are getting mocked in here for daring to even hint they might have a different connection to the club.

For years Mourinho has done this. He loves controversy. He feeds off it. This is what we now have to deal with. The people who like this style have currently "won" the club. Short term controversy is what you get when your club is breaking transfer records and has no continuation.

You don't hire Mourinho and complain about over blown controversies. We accept them and hope it's best for the club.
Never change, you big drama lama :lol:
 

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These are the cnuts that got rid of him in the first place -- or do we honestly think that Schweinsteiger would have left if Bayern were going to guarantee him playing time?

He hasn't shown that he can maintain the levels of fitness needed to play at a top club. Right call to get rid.
 

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Bayern were always unlikeable to me, you either love or hate them in Germany. I always thought they were cnuts. They are better run than Madrid and do it 'the right way', but they are still cnuts, especially since the success in the last years grew, they even became more arrogant cnuts.
 

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They don't get to sell us a player and then complain about how we treat them. Mourinho's treatment on the surface does seem harsh but I'm sure he has his reasons.
 

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This could become a PR nightmare.
Not sure, think it just makes Schweinsteiger look silly the more his Bayern mates and family do this. He should speak himself if there is an issue.
 

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The man that publicly embarrasses players when he doesn't want them anymore, like an advertisement for an old telly in a newspaper. LOL.

The man loves the sound of his own voice.
 

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Not sure, think it just makes Schweinsteiger look silly the more his Bayern mates and family do this. He should speak himself if there is an issue.
You think Bastian will be the one looking silly? Not here to debate who is right and wrong but the reputation Mourinho has will ensure this only looks one way to neutrals.
 

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He was more than just "told he wasn't wanted". He's been cast away from training with the squad and his locker reportedly moved.

All for what, being allowed to take trips to Germany when injured and watch his gf play tennis. It's not what we like to see, but it was allowed under LVG. Don't attack Schweinsteiger all of a sudden when he hasn't had a chance to play under Mourinhos rules to prove he can adapt. It's daft.

So who is he supposed to train with if he no longer fits into our plans? He is out of shape. Just back form his honeymoon. Coming off injury. Seems to me working with the reserves is the best place for him. Why would you give valuable first team training time to someone who you no longer want? Why shouldn't his kit be moved, what is he supposed to do train naked?

There is very little time before the season begins, and less than a month before the transfer window closes, better to spend time with players you expect to figure in the season then those you don't.
 

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Prolonged relegation to the reserves could pose a legal problem if he intends to go down that route.
Hopefully this gets sorted as soon as possible. The club will have to pay him off. Which is only fair. They gave him the contract.
 

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Ah yes. The whole "he's earning money so what do I care" comment.

Christ. He's a footballer and wants to play games. He's been shown utter disrespect by being shafted to the kiddies pool. Bayern may well tell players they aren't needed but they don't cast them away in training & physically move their dressing room lockers to reserves. Unless I've missed an example along the lines.
A footballer who wants to play games, well you just described almost every single footballer we and other clubs have under contract, so does that mean every players we have is supposed to train with the first team? If he is training with the reserves isn't that where he should have his locker?

Who the feck cares what Bayern does? Are we Bayern United? Nope.

It's not like we are casting aside a United legend, what has Bastian accomplished for Manchester United? Feck all. So why should he be treated special? He shouldn't. So if he is not wanted, no point at all given him time with the first team.
 

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Meh hes a bayern legend not ours, perhaps they shouldnt have sold him if they wanted to guarantee him playing time.

He can always prove himself and win back his place rather than running to the press.
 

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Prolonged relegation to the reserves could pose a legal problem if he intends to go down that route.
Hopefully this gets sorted as soon as possible. The club will have to pay him off. Which is only fair. They gave him the contract.
He will get sold. Plus his contract probably does not guarantee any sort of first team playing time, so I think the only legal action he can take is to try and get out of the contract, which fine, we don't want him anymore anyways. Problem solved.
 

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Meh hes a bayern legend not ours, perhaps they shouldnt have sold him if they wanted to guarantee him playing time.

He can always prove himself and win back his place rather than running to the press.
A point lost on many here, if he was so precious to Bayern why did they sell him to us, then gloat about selling us an injured player who they no longer wanted?

Oooooops, but Bayern is sooooooooo classy.
 

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These are the cnuts that got rid of him in the first place -- or do we honestly think that Schweinsteiger would have left if Bayern were going to guarantee him playing time?

He hasn't shown that he can maintain the levels of fitness needed to play at a top club. Right call to get rid.
Bayern made no bones about the fact that he was done with them when they sold him.
 

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Not sure why people have taken this as Rumennigge saying that Bayern have never cast aside an unwanted player. He's clearly talking about the treatment that Schweinsteiger has been subjected to; being forced to train with the younger lads, having his locker moved apparently and whatever else Mourinho may have said to him in this process that we don't know about.

I see a lot of people defending Mourinho and that's fine. I understand it given that he's your manager now: but if you think he is above petty and immature conflicts with players you are very much mistaken. By the end of his tenure at Chelsea last season he wasn't even on speaking terms with the players.
 

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Bayern made no bones about the fact that he was done with them when they sold him.
Yeah, true, but Mourinho seems to have made similar statements this time. It's just opportunism and hypocrisy from Bayern.
 

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Oh man. It hurts to have a club I love getting insulted from all angles like this. Hopefully this will be it for the season though and our management won't continue to cause controversy.

moments like this might change our transfer policy in the future, why on Earth would players sign for us if this is how we treat our own.

Have to admit the class that BS has shown is impressive. Wishing his team mates well, saying he wants to play in the team. Exactly what I want out of a player. Who knows his United career may not be over yet!
Can't believe it I'm in total agreement with Twiggy here!:lol:

Seriously, if Rojo can get a chance to prove himself - why not Bastian? Unless I get conclusive evidence that Bastian's been or being unprofessional, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt over the players who leaked all these negative stories. I don't understand how some of my fellow reds can take what they heard from these leaks as gospel. From players last season who themselves did not step up but instead moaned about LVG, and wouldn't take any responsibility for their shit performances.

Ed Woodward needs to leave Jose out of this, and deal with Basti personally to get a good solution for all parties. Ruminegge can be irritating - but I don't think it benefits us as a club to give him any ammunition to make us look bad.
 

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being forced to train with the younger lads, having his locker moved apparently and whatever else Mourinho may have said to him in this process that we don't know about.
These are apparently the consequences of not accepting that you have no place in the new manager's plans.
 

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Can't believe it I'm in total agreement with Twiggy here!:lol:

Seriously, if Rojo can get a chance to prove himself - why not Bastian? Unless I get conclusive evidence that Bastian's been or being unprofessional, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt over the players who leaked all these negative stories. I don't understand how some of my fellow reds can take what they heard from these leaks as gospel. From players last season who themselves did not step up but instead moaned about LVG, and wouldn't take any responsibility for their shit performances.

Ed Woodward needs to leave Jose out of this, and deal with Basti personally to get a good solution for all parties. Ruminegge can be irritating - but I don't think it benefits us as a club to give him any ammunition to make us look bad.
I genuinely can't get my head around this line of thinking. So you're giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that Mourinho is ostracising him (and not, for example, Rojo) why, exactly? Because he really really hates blondes?
 

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I believe Schweinsteiger genuinely wants to be a part of Utd and not just hanging around to pick up his pay-cheque. His best chance would be to get past the window still at Utd and if injuries occur to other midfielders there's an opportunity to get back in. After-all this manager is not going to turn to the youth is he...

I still think he's got more to offer.
 

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Ballache: Rummenigge can eat a dick. How is he gonna talk after what they did to Götze?
Bit of a difference in status between gotze and Bastian. The mans an impeccable personality and well respected. I cant really criticise UTDs PR department after ours in the Suarez fiasco but it seems you guys are just as bad as us.
Its a dick move and shouldnt have happened. Its one thing exiling a balotelli or gotze to the reserves its another proposition when yoy do it to someone like Basti.
 

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If an overpaid player needs a bit of a kick to move on instead of sucking up a huge salary then I'm all for it. Bayern always sell us dodgy players anyway.
 

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As if players would rethink joining us because Mourinho didn't have a place in his squad for an aging Schweinsteiger. :lol:
 

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Clearly a political move by Rumenigge. After seeing us flex our muscles in the Pogba saga, he is obviously scared we will take their stars too in future windows. He knows that they can't match our financial strength and he is trying to tarnish us to save Bayern's skin.

We must retaliate with an official response and then proceed to offer big money&wages to Bayern's best players in order to unsettle them. Retribution must be swift and brutal to prevent others from saying similar in future.
 

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Clearly a political move by Rumenigge. After seeing us flex our muscles in the Pogba saga, he is obviously scared we will take their stars too in future windows. He knows that they can't match our financial strength and he is trying to tarnish us to save Bayern's skin.

We must retaliate with an official response and then proceed to offer big money&wages to Bayern's best players in order to unsettle them. Retribution must be swift and brutal to prevent others from saying similar in future.
The response is simple really, if Bastian is so damn important why the feck were you so quick to want to be rid of him last summer? Ooooops.