I have been hugely critical of him, but hes been immense recently. Credit where its due.
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You do realise this is a Valencia thread. Im only going to comment on Valencia in here.
Of course I know Shaw does this (not to the extent Valencia does it) but it kinda illustrates a point im making.
Valencia has the ability to do something as he showed with the winning goal hence why a lot of our players went over to him when Ibra scored.
Luckhurst is a bit clickbait-y, isn't he? Quote may be true but he seems like a Tancredi/Castles type who loves the retweets.
It's not recently. It's just that people have finally realised he capable as a right back. I hope this continues
You are saying you are frustrated by him doing that. All I'm saying is if you are frustrated by him doing it, you should if Shaw does it.
I actually said it frustrated people as in within the stadium, people were groaning when he had a chance.
but regardless, your post is mad. It would be like you posting in the Rooney thread saying "I hate when he gives the ball away" and then me jumping on you "well, Fellaini does it as well, so stop the double standards".
I'm only saying this because its continually used against him like he's the only one that does it for some unknown reason
So is it not a valid criticism for Valencia in a Valencia thread, considering he continually does it
But when he doesnt, and he goes back to old school crossing, we score?
Of course it's not a valid criticism. Everybody does it. It just a pass.
Love Tony.
Did you see that beaming smile on his mug when he put the armband on? A sight rarely seen in the light of day. Top bloke.
Did you see that beaming smile on his mug when he put the armband on? A sight rarely seen in the light of day. Top bloke.
wait he said that...
... it's funny because it's true Anyway Antonio is a bloody rock back there. He has a midfielders touch, tuns of pace, strong and can defend. His problem was always he is shite at crossing. But Zlatan just needs a sniff. They will both work swimmingly together.
Still have my doubts about his positional game as a RB but no one can doubt his sheer pace and power and drive.. Great to see him smile, very good game from him today..
I'm loving this Zlatan-Valencia combo. Long may it continue.
100 percent accurate. Mourinho reprogramming Tony and removing 'philosophy' from his mind will make a massive difference. I don't think many fans realise how harmful Moyes and Van Gaal's safety first football has been. Valencia's transformation shows what can happen when our squad is given license to take risks.
Even today a few times in the first half he could have crossed a couple times more.
Our wide players are so used to having no threat in the box we hardly cross. We need to get it in our brains we've got a 6'5 monster in the box
Our wide players are so used to having no threat in the box we hardly cross. We need to get it in our brains we've got a 6'5 monster in the box
Even today a few times in the first half he could have crossed a couple times more.
Our wide players are so used to having no threat in the box we hardly cross. We need to get it in our brains we've got a 6'5 monster in the box
It isn't that, they have just had two years of being brainwashed by Van Gaal. It'll take time for them to stop passing sideways.
Even before LVG look at Moyes, we crossed loads but never had a genuine threat apart from fellaini. Now we've got somebody who can actually take advantage of that, if the right cross comes in of course.
Valencia is the first bit of proof that just because certain players were shite previously, doesnt mean they will be going forward. I hope we get the same out of the likes of Schneiderlin and Herrera. Those two need positivity desperate put back into their game.
This. And this is why I think selling Januzaj is a mistake. Messi and Ronaldo would have looked lost under LVG.
What a ridiculous statement. If an 18 year old striker having his debut season and a 20 year old carrying our attack can look immense, to claim Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't is criminal.
You can lump all the blame on LVG you want, I wanted him out as much as anyone else, but maybe some of these players just aren't very good.
Januzaj didn't get a proper chance at all. He was played as a #10, a striker and everywhere and wasn't trusted.
I'd go with probability.
LVG stifled creativity and attacking intent. Herrera, Di Maria, Valencia, Shaw, RVP, Januzaj all suffered as a result.
Martial and Rashford didn't because they hadn't been Van Gaalised enough.
The way he crosses is perfect for Zlatan. Rooney once used to benefit from his crosses with his agility and aggression (but obviously he has neither now). Zlatan can do the same.
Valencia when he returned from his operation was one of our best players under Van Gaal, RVP was finished and has looked average in a piss poor Turkish league, Shaw was arguably our best player before he broke his leg and didn't play the rest of the season, Di Maria wanted to leave the club and couldn't be arsed to play.
Out of all those players Herrera is the only one I agree with to a certain extent, he looked very good at first. Januzaj just isn't very good though, he looked very good when the rest of the team looked very poor, hasn't kicked on at all since and it's best we move on.
On topic though, think Valencia will be very good for us this season and I'm usually one of his biggest critics.
Great assist, Darmian shouldn't be able to do that
Impressed with him in pre-season, hopefully he can keep it up.
I like Tony V. Such a consistent professional. That huge smile when he got the captain's armband.
Antonio Valencia as Manchester United captain
I'm afraid I shall be in the minority here but here goes. Much as I love the fact that he has learnt how to cross the ball in the air again, he was caught out several times by long balls over his head to the opposing winger yesterday - he is no hot shot at heading either. He is not the answer at full back in my opinion.
For me, he's still a far better option than Darmian.
I am 59 years old and have shot knees - I am a better option than Darmian.
Yes, yes you are.
I am still skeptical about Valencia. He is actually a great option to have at the RB as he is a nightmare for opposition RWs but from an attacking point of view, Valencia had much more issues than just LVG's philosophy. Agree that Mourinho can transform Schneiderlin and Herrera though.
Love Valencia, great professional and team player
Looks like his crossing finally improved, based on the games so far
So was it our strikers making Valencia look bad?
Yes. I am beginning to think that his crossing last season wasn't that bad and that our strikers just didn't capitalise on them.
He got a decent few assists in our last 10 games and with the exception of West Ham game performed better the vast majority. I like Valencia, very undervalued imo.
His crossing was actually poor for the last years
I knew the revisionism would start, his crossing has been dire for seasons now, usually ends up not making it into the box anyway after being smacked off the fullbacks shins. Hopefully a few more crosses like last Sunday are on their way.- Status