Rooney Dropped | Megathread closed

[K2K]

This is the thing, many highlighting rooney still can score goals, when rooney went games without scoring, rooney always performed to a vintage level and came up with brilliant assists, hell even rooney missed some chances during games he did not score, so it showed he is a threat in front of goal and he capable of hitting the back of the net and he will end his goalless streak. The problem these days, he's not assisting in terms of performance levels only by done by some disjointed play when it becomes desperate, and he does not seem appearing to be not only getting on the end of things, he does not seem to have the engine by instinct to get on the end of any assists in the box. He's not scored since the opening day of the season, that says to me we have a problem with our no10 looking even remotely like a threat to defenders, if I was Jose I could not trust starting rooney because of these performances, unless he really puts the hours in on the training ground, his days are numbered

In simple terms,yes he might get us a goal or two but it is detrimental to how the rest of the team that it's simply not worth it.

I've felt like this for a long time.

 

[Stringer]

If the board has rated Rooney the lowest 3 seasons in a row when he's not even close to being our worst player, yes I think then 99% of the board must be blinded by bias.

The poster called wr8_utd is accusing others of being biased when discussing Wayne Rooney? Okay then...

 

[SirScholes]

Nobody asked him to cover any grass these days, just stick to your position and try not to sucks.

Look, rooney is legend, ok we get it. But he just needs to stop playing now. That's all.

What he has done is appreciated, it's what he's doing now that's slagged.

was all i was saying, we had to go round the houses to get there

 

[K2K]

I didn't mean zlatan yesterday I meant in general this season Ive found his touch not be the best and sub par performances covered over with a goal.
Yesterday was better, still not a fantastic performance and he really should of scored.
But i'm digressing here.

Then we are on the same side of the fence.He finally played well yesterday.I think it's down to what Jose also mentioned.He thrives with pace and movement around him.

 

[soapythecat]

If you think it's okay to hate a player that has given so much to us then to me you're not a proper fan, I won't go into it any further than that but that's the way I see it.

Climb off your moral high horse will you. Can't afford to lose super fans like you if you were to get injured.

 

[Minimalist]

Rooney shouldn't be in the team now
But people saying stuff like 'Rooney fans' and 'Rooney fanboys' aren't proper united fans. Rooney has given his all for us for donkeys years, he's our captain and being on the decline shouldn't mean that people should hate him. I'm all for having a laugh about him being a chunk and even the angry and confused thread is hilarious. But everyone on this forum should be a 'fanboy' of your own teams captain.

One of the most stupid things I've ever fecking read. Well done.

 

[RedStarUnited]

If you feel that a player is is holding the team you support back, why would you not celebrate that he is finally dropped?
It maybe a sad days for Rooney and his fans but I feel i'ts a great day for Manchester United. It means United as a can as a club can start to move forward and build to genuinely compete with the likes of Barca, Real Bayern ect, instead of just scratching around 4 place.

It's this that I don't understand. Isn't it United above every player?

 

[Dec9003]

One of the most stupid things I've ever fecking read. Well done.

I'm honoured, truly

Climb off your moral high horse will you. Can't afford to lose super fans like you if you were to get injured.

I don't think what I said really meant that you should get upset and reply with a sarcastic remark but fair enough mate.

 

[Adisa]

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[wr8_utd]

There's an interesting bit in the article where it says we've scored more goals with him in the team . He should not be starting in our team currently but he's not been anywhere even remotely close to our worst players in the past 2-3 seasons as some like to suggest on here.

For all of the criticism Rooney attracts, he remains a highly influential player for United, and the central position he occupies ensures that he is often the man starting attacks for the club, as well as dictating the tempo. In Premier League matches since the 2013/14 season, United have scored a higher number of goals per match when Rooney has been in the team (1.6) compared to when he has been absent (1.3), as well as winning more points (at an average of 1.8 compared to 1.7) per match.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

There's an interesting bit in the article where it says we've scored more goals with him in the team . He should not be starting in our team currently but he's not been anywhere even remotely close to our worst players in the past 2-3 seasons as some like to suggest on here.

I'd say only Rojo has been as consistently awful as Rooney for the last 18 months though.

 

[Oneunited26]

In simple terms,yes he might get us a goal or two but it is detrimental to how the rest of the team that it's simply not worth it.

I've felt like this for a long time.

There are still those who feel we should support everyone, not when he is literally hurting how we play, its like a rich boy who expects to be in the starting 11, even though he is utter garbage

I'd say only Rojo has been as consistently awful as Rooney for the last 18 months though.

We could could go into double figures on how many have been terrible, its grim when we have to say who has been more terrible than the other players in the squad

 

[17Larsson]

There's an interesting bit in the article where it says we've scored more goals with him in the team . He should not be starting in our team currently but he's not been anywhere even remotely close to our worst players in the past 2-3 seasons as some like to suggest on here.

That's cause he's never been out of the fecking team!

 

[Minimalist]

That's cause he's never been out of the fecking team!

So true.

Prime example of idiots using statistics without context.

 

[Oneunited26]

That's cause he's never been out of the fecking team!

Well according to some he was our best player under Moyes, well we finished 7th, so not a good example to show rooney was not that bad LOL

 

[Sentient Meat]

Kobe Bryant scored a lot of points in his last few years with the Lakers, while disrupting team chemistry and shooting at near record low levels of inefficiency.

Now, I'm not saying Rooney's reached that level, but certain Laker fans didn't want Kobe dropped even when the team reached the NBA equivalent of relegation.

I respect loyalty, but there comes a point where the organization must insist a player gracefully steps aside before said player takes the organization down right with him.

 

[Dumbat12]

There's an interesting bit in the article where it says we've scored more goals with him in the team . He should not be starting in our team currently but he's not been anywhere even remotely close to our worst players in the past 2-3 seasons as some like to suggest on here.

Ok. Rojo has been worse, mmm, who else? Fellaini, maybe? Don't know about that.

It's pretty hard for me to think about anyone who was worse than Rooney in these past 3 seasons. Care to enlighten us?

 

[K2K]

There are still those who feel we should support everyone, not when he is literally hurting how we play, its like a rich boy who expects to be in the starting 11, even though he is utter garbage


We could could go into double figures on how many have been terrible, its grim when we have to say who has been more terrible than the other players in the squad

I support United.

Rooney not being in the team is best for United and I've been telling anyone that will listen that.

 

[K2K]

There's an interesting bit in the article where it says we've scored more goals with him in the team . He should not be starting in our team currently but he's not been anywhere even remotely close to our worst players in the past 2-3 seasons as some like to suggest on here.

Been dropped like 4 times in the last 3 years.

You are seriously grasping for straws.This taking fanboyism to dangerous depths.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

But Keane will go down as a legend non the less that was my point. Rio missed a run in because he was a tit and 'forgot' his drugs test so before we go on about unprofessional behaviour Rooney isn't alone on there

I never said Keane wasn't a legend same as Rooney is a legend,

 

[Nanotron]

Ok. Rojo has been worse, mmm, who else? Fellaini, maybe? Don't know about that.

It's pretty hard for me to think about anyone who was worse than Rooney in these past 3 seasons. Care to enlighten us?

Why does it matter who was worse. You are clutching at straws here that will get you nowhere

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Hopefully he plays on Thursday so we can do the same again against Stoke on Sunday.

He is now an overpaid Europa/EFL & occasional prem sub player imo, and that is fine, he has done his hard work for United.

 

[Adisa]

I like @wr8_utd. You guys should leave him alone. The other guy Nick, he's something else.

 

[soapythecat]

There's an interesting bit in the article where it says we've scored more goals with him in the team . He should not be starting in our team currently but he's not been anywhere even remotely close to our worst players in the past 2-3 seasons as some like to suggest on here.

You do realise that during this period you've chosen to highlight, we've scored the least amount of goals for decades?

 

[Harry190]

Only being kept until he beats the record. Seems like it.

 

[soapythecat]

Only being kept until he beats the record. Seems like it.

On his current conversion rate, he'll need a contract extension to achieve it.
I hope he doesn't get it. The current holder IS a United legend.

 

[Im red2]

Rooney was a great player for United, but he is no longer able to perform to the level needed to keep his place in the team. So if he misses the record no one can be blamed. Maybe he will have some substitute appearances and then can reach the record? who knows. But he should no longer be a starter. He slows the complete team down,and is more a hindrence than a help. His time has come and gone. United need to move forward and not hang around waiting for Rooney to try beat a record. If he deserves to beat it then he will beat it, if not then tough shit.

 

[Jed I. Knight]

On his current conversion rate, he'll need a contract extension to achieve it.
I hope he doesn't get it. The current holder IS a United legend.

I can't believe what I'm reading here. Are you seriously suggesting Rooney isn't a United legend?

I know he's not exactly lighting up Old Trafford these days, but seriously.

 

[Im red2]

I can't believe what I'm reading here. Are you seriously suggesting Rooney isn't a United legend?

I know he's not exactly lighting up Old Trafford these days, but seriously.

Rooney will go down as a United legend, but I would still put Bobby Charlton before him as regards loyalty

 

[Dumbat12]

Why does it matter who was worse. You are clutching at straws here that will get you nowhere

Umm, what? I think you quoted the wrong guy there, mate.

 

[SirScholes]

Well according to some he was our best player under Moyes, well we finished 7th, so not a good example to show rooney was not that bad LOL

So if we have a shit manager with shit tactics it's down to Rooney ok. This is equally daft as using stats alone

 

[Im red2]

So if we have a shit manager with shit tactics it's down to Rooney ok. This is equally daft as using stats alone

Can people please realise that even though Rooney was a great player for United during the seasons after he signed up until about 2013, his time has come, or are you guys going to be wanting him to play in 10 years time as well? he is finished, he has lost his pace and his fast thinking. It is a normal procedure that comes with ageing, neither Rooney nor you can do anything about it. He is simply going through what everyone does it is called ageing. He needs replacing.

 

[Sandikan]

All the "brave" press now getting in on the act

 

[Nanotron]

Umm, what? I think you quoted the wrong guy there, mate.

No it was you but I read it and took it up wrong. False alarm, we are in agreement.

 

[spwd]

One of the most stupid things I've ever fecking read. Well done.

Wow, is that real

So true.



Prime example of idiots using statistics without context.

100%

 

[K2K]

One of the most stupid things I've ever fecking read. Well done.

This

 

[Theafonis]

Maybe he thinks/thought Rooney's level of "shitness" is/was more excessive than that of Bran's.

Ivanovic was the source of a lot of our problems last season.

 

[SirScholes]

Can people please realise that even though Rooney was a great player for United during the seasons after he signed up until about 2013, his time has come, or are you guys going to be wanting him to play in 10 years time as well? he is finished, he has lost his pace and his fast thinking. It is a normal procedure that comes with ageing, neither Rooney nor you can do anything about it. He is simply going through what everyone does it is called ageing. He needs replacing.

not sure why you qouted me for that? I agree with your post.

 

[SirScholes]

I never said Keane wasn't a legend same as Rooney is a legend,

i cant work out what that sentence means, you jumped into a converstation i was having with another, he was saying rooney wont be a legend I was saying he already was. Then you came in with a load of trash on Rooney, I was simply saying that if a player needs to be whiter than white to be a legend then we'd lose a load of players who we like to think as legends such as keane best giggs etc...
If i've grabbed the wrong end of the stick and you agree that Rooney despite having bad form of late will still go down as a legend then we are in agreement. For me if a player isnt playign well he needs to be taken out of the team, thats on the manager not the player which is why I have no ill will towards Rooney

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

i cant work out what that sentence means, you jumped into a converstation i was having with another, he was saying rooney wont be a legend I was saying he already was. Then you came in with a load of trash on Rooney, I was simply saying that if a player needs to be whiter than white to be a legend then we'd lose a load of players who we like to think as legends such as keane best giggs etc...
If i've grabbed the wrong end of the stick and you agree that Rooney despite having bad form of late will still go down as a legend then we are in agreement. For me if a player isnt playign well he needs to be taken out of the team, thats on the manager not the player which is why I have no ill will towards Rooney

No arguments with anything you've said mate, still doesn't mean I have to like the bloke