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Film Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
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Just got around to watching it... This new cut has made a bad film good. What on earth were they thinking? They cut it to shreds, made it confusing and dull. This new version makes sense (apart from dream sequence) and it was entertaining.
Only question I have, what makes this a higher cert apart from the swearing? Was expecting a bit more blood/violence...
Only question I have, what makes this a higher cert apart from the swearing? Was expecting a bit more blood/violence...
Only seen the ultimate edition and I thought it was a bit of a mess so no idea how bad the theatrical version is.
Much worse...
I thought it was okay. I think the people rabidly saying it's the worst thing ever are overreacting. It's average or below average at wost. Many many worse films out there. Yes there are some stupid moments but that doesn't negate everything.Erm... Smart phone?
Fair enough then... What did you think if it?
I don't like how Batman is portrayed. He seems quite dumb and impulsive. Maybe that will be explained in a prequel but I still don't like it.
Yeah finally watched it, the full version anyway.
I'm not sure what to make of it really. It's nowhere near as bad as some have made out, but it is a bit of a mess. I don't remember a single character having any good reason for anything they do and Batman isn't really anything like Batman, if that makes sense.
I think the biggest problem is the pace. It's just over 3hrs long yet still seems so rushed. I think they crammed way too much in rushing towards the Justice League, this should have been purely about those two fighting and saved the doomsday stuff for the next film. Luther was shite too.
But all in all it's a mediocre to sometimes decent action film. I guess that's why so many hated it, BvS should have been a great film.
I'm not sure what to make of it really. It's nowhere near as bad as some have made out, but it is a bit of a mess. I don't remember a single character having any good reason for anything they do and Batman isn't really anything like Batman, if that makes sense.
I think the biggest problem is the pace. It's just over 3hrs long yet still seems so rushed. I think they crammed way too much in rushing towards the Justice League, this should have been purely about those two fighting and saved the doomsday stuff for the next film. Luther was shite too.
But all in all it's a mediocre to sometimes decent action film. I guess that's why so many hated it, BvS should have been a great film.
Pretty much what I think. I liked Affleck, but it's a pretty terrible version of Batman.
There's so many of these films lately that despite being ridiculously long, feel like they've been rushed the whole way through.
This was like that. It felt like it was someone's homework assignment that they didn't bother to start doing until the morning of the day it was due. Every action film lately seems like this.
This was like that. It felt like it was someone's homework assignment that they didn't bother to start doing until the morning of the day it was due. Every action film lately seems like this.
Fury Road being the exception, which was masterful.
It was a bunch of different stuff from comics put together for one story. Justice League seems to have been an issue. I get they wanna do it different from Marvel, but I think they would have been smarter having this movie, but not so much focus on JL. Then having a standalone Batman and incorporating some of the stuff from this into that.
I didnt hate the movie and I liked some of the references. WW intro and music is still badass to me. But the lines about "is she with you", "nah i thought she was with you" was so unneeded given what happened earlier in the movie.
The whole it was long but felt rushed is a good summary of the cinema experience.
I didnt hate the movie and I liked some of the references. WW intro and music is still badass to me. But the lines about "is she with you", "nah i thought she was with you" was so unneeded given what happened earlier in the movie.
The whole it was long but felt rushed is a good summary of the cinema experience.
Lex Luthor having made fecking logos for the 'metahumans' and the pointless mid-movie plug that only acted to remind me that I'm watching a cash-in franchise film was probably the worst part for me.
Yeah that was another thing that was really poor although I still think the way they presented Superman still is the worst thing for me. If they were gonna go this route and go straight in to JL they should have had Superman being the inspiration that brings people like the Flash in to the open imo.
Finally finished this last night (had to do it in 2 viewings as it was the extended cut). Yeah it's not as bad as I was expecting but it's still pretty awful.
Jesse Eisenburg phoning in his 'madcap' villain, shit CGI fights, Snyder slo-mo and bizarre dream sequences.
I enjoyed the first half (up to where they first meet "Do you bleed?") much more than the second which tbh was a bit of a slog. Not sure they needed to introduce Doomsday (of for that matter Wonder Woman) at all but then Lex Luthor was such a weak villain perhaps they felt they had to.
Jesse Eisenburg phoning in his 'madcap' villain, shit CGI fights, Snyder slo-mo and bizarre dream sequences.
I enjoyed the first half (up to where they first meet "Do you bleed?") much more than the second which tbh was a bit of a slog. Not sure they needed to introduce Doomsday (of for that matter Wonder Woman) at all but then Lex Luthor was such a weak villain perhaps they felt they had to.
I am sure I will watch this at some point, but DC Comics films have been pretty shite in general.
I will probably watch Star Wars 7 before it. Maybe next year though.
I will probably watch Star Wars 7 before it. Maybe next year though.
Especially dumb was the bit when Batman tried using guns on Superman. Clearly didn't do his research.
I really liked Ben Affleck as Batman but wasn't sold on this version of Batman. Was a bit of an angry dumbass.
I think it'd of been a much better film without Doomsday. It should of simply been Batman vs Superman.
Liked the theatrical cut, love the ultimate edition. Doomsday looked like shit though, and Amy Adams is miscast.
It should've been cut in 2.
The first film about their conflict with Lex conniving in the background.
The second about Lex Luthor and Doomsday.
They can't do that since they feck up MoS. A doubtful Superman throughout almost the whole movie can't inspire anyone, not even regular people. There's no way he can inspire other heroes the way he is portrayed there.
Watched the extended version today (well split over two days) The extra scenes really do help flesh out some motives, and helps the movie flow so much better. And more than anything show how much Luthor manipulated everything. (and also adds more credence that this is Lex Luthor Jr)
Also helps show Lois is a really good investigator / journalist and not just somebody that falls for Superman to save. Also the Superman story is more beefy with the scenes and that hes also a good investigator.
3 hours is a long time, and it probably should have been 2 movies (BvS, then B,S,WW vs Doomsday and Luthor).
Doesnt fix some of the obvious problems (Save martha, Lois and the Kryptonite spear, etc), but does make it a shame that the actual Cinema release was edited down.
Think the ratings (eg RT) would be quite a bit higher than it currently is, meaning more people may have enjoyed it despite the length (just because it makes a bit more sense).
Also helps show Lois is a really good investigator / journalist and not just somebody that falls for Superman to save. Also the Superman story is more beefy with the scenes and that hes also a good investigator.
3 hours is a long time, and it probably should have been 2 movies (BvS, then B,S,WW vs Doomsday and Luthor).
Doesnt fix some of the obvious problems (Save martha, Lois and the Kryptonite spear, etc), but does make it a shame that the actual Cinema release was edited down.
Think the ratings (eg RT) would be quite a bit higher than it currently is, meaning more people may have enjoyed it despite the length (just because it makes a bit more sense).
Why would you call your mother by her first name? That was so god damn awkward.
Batman is a dumb asshole, and does Doomsday has a power of flight, or is he Hulk-like with the jumps only? I mean, that carrying-into-space tactic might work again if later. With no stupid American presidents this time.
I did like the first half of the film though.
Batman is a dumb asshole, and does Doomsday has a power of flight, or is he Hulk-like with the jumps only? I mean, that carrying-into-space tactic might work again if later. With no stupid American presidents this time.
I did like the first half of the film though.
So I just watched the first hour of this yesterday, was struggling to finish it. It just bored me.. really didn't like Jesse Eisenberg as Lex.. hammed it up way too much for me and couldn't take him seriously.
Ben Affleck, bless him was trying to do his best to convince as Bruce but out of costume, I just couldn't warm to him as batman. Didn't like the Alfred either.
Not as bad as suicide squad yet though. So far 5/10.
Ben Affleck, bless him was trying to do his best to convince as Bruce but out of costume, I just couldn't warm to him as batman. Didn't like the Alfred either.
Not as bad as suicide squad yet though. So far 5/10.
Even as someone who likes this movie, I'll advise that you leave it at that. The second half (and third act in particular) is the weaker part of the film, so your final score would be probably be 3/10 lol. Although if you do that, find the Batman warehouse scene on YouTube, it's pretty dope.
My mate said it was the last hour with the climatic battle that was worth watching and wonder woman etc was awesome.. so I think I will watch it till the end.
Shame, the comic book by Miller is my favourite one ever.
Oh if you're into non-stop bombastic action then yeah, the entire third act is basically that. I did like it, but not as much as the build-up stuff.
He's a huge comic book fan so I feel he overrates alot of stuff because he can't bear to see it criticised.. every marvel film is always a 10/10 so I'll take his opinion with a pinch of salt.
Hmm, I feel whenever a film is relying on its action scenes to save the day, it is in a pretty desperate situation. Found the build up tedious, and lacking any proper flow personally.
Find it very hard to like any comic book film on a narrative front tbh after watching TDK.
Did you watch the extended version? Or the cinema release edited version?
Ultimate edition..
Maybe you should try watching a movie without asking your mate every detail about it.
Ah, that was the better version, I thought that flowed better than the cinema version as well.
Bloody hell, poor Raees, everybody's telling him what to do.
I also enjoyed the ultimate edition a lot more, it does flesh it out and flows better.
It may take people a few years, but I think that the DC films will be looked on favourably down the line. Snyder gets a really rough time because he's dared to deconstruct things, and loads of people just aren't getting it or comfortable with his approach.
I think it's a good thing, and as I say, in a few years time people who are not happy now will see the DC films as a whole and I reckon they will change their minds.
They're just bad films to be honest.
I know right. Jeez, all that happened was we were discussing our top 10 comic book films and he goes Batman v Superman.. I go what...he goes yeah, give it a go and trust me the battle at the end is worth watching. That is all, yet apparently I asked him for every detail. I'm guessing from Donaldo's tagline, he doesn't take too kindly to any criticism of batman.
They have their faults, like many of the other superhero films and people have their own opinions and tastes, but outright 'bad' films? Can't agree on that.
This.
Snyder didn't deconstruct anything. He just make shite movies with little to no coherent story telling.
Well I obviously can't claim to be an objective judge on good and bad films, but I genuinely can't see anything Snyder's films have done well, and certainly can't see any possible way for them to be viewed retrospectively as good to those who previously thought they were bad. Poor pacing, irritating characters, lame villains and even meh special effects don't add up to good blockbuster action films however you look at them. And I say that as someone who'd been really looking forward to this. I just really don't think Snyder is very good at what he does.
WW introduction into the battle was the most badass part of the movie. (Though it was ruined in the trailer).
The thing with BvS is the same thing I thought during Man Of Steel, it felt like 2 movies merged together.
Though I enjoyed BvS more than MoS. My biggest problem I guess is how dark and broody Superman is, it really should have been "night vs day". Instead it was like "night vs... even later in the night".
The thing with BvS is the same thing I thought during Man Of Steel, it felt like 2 movies merged together.
Though I enjoyed BvS more than MoS. My biggest problem I guess is how dark and broody Superman is, it really should have been "night vs day". Instead it was like "night vs... even later in the night".