Victor Lindelöf
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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I’m not. Checked his twitter and instagram as well, nothing on ’em. Seems that he (whether the Facebook profile is his or not) has now deleted the post and changed his profile picture to a pic of him wearing Sweden’s kit instead of Benfica’s. Guess it’s better to assume the profile isn’t his, until there is some confirmation. Found his personal profile and it says ”Steven Gerrard” as his ”political view” (or whatever it is called in Eng fb).
I dont think the FB account is an official one
Yeah it seems so, got the message now that I saw his new profile picture laughing at the camera. Seemed legit-ish with so many Portuguese followers and the posts being in Portuguese etc. Sorry for posting fake info.
Are you sure that you're talking about a guy who had 36,4% passing accuracy in one of the recent games?
I mean he was good and I gave him 2 MotM awards, but that's just a lie
maybe he got fraped.
Okay so you decided using the stat mean everything, right? How about Fellaini is our joint best midfielder passer with Carrick. Let's not use our own CBs' passing accuracy stat and big up this discussion and derail this thread. There is a place for it already in this forum.
Rojo's worst game in term of passing was Tottenham, then Arsenal. Does Mourinho only use one tactic in all games like LVG or Pep? Did we try to batter Tottenham with possession or our players to attempt more direct ball into space, toward our target man (can't win every duel even if it's Zlatan)? While his passing accuracy was not good, did it give you a feel of nervous when he's on ball and resort to offload the ball to his teammate with easy pass for him, but bad pass for his teammate to deal with? Should we neglect games where Mourinho chose to play possession football where Rojo was comfortable playing out the back and did it well moving the play with pace and purpose, instead of game where the only winning goal was product of 1 pass play after retaining possession? Tactical based stat vs out of context stat, you decide.
Jones also had under 50% passing accuracy vs Tottenham.
Rojo's delivery, when he was under pressure, was dreadful. Lucky enough we dominated most of the games so he wasn't really exposed. The same goes for Jones by the way. I like how somehow his ridiculously low accuracy rate is actually a Mourinho's tactical decision, and he was aiming towards Zlatan.
I think you're exaggerating his form. Rojo is on a decent run of form the best he has produced since being here (long may it continue) but that's it. I wouldn't go as far to say anything more than that.
I was wondering what happened to Mourinho wanting Manolas. He's the better player currently and probably wouldn't cost as much.
I doubt Mourinho cares about the price, just about which player is going to be the best signing. I know that Lindelof can play CB and RB which may give him an edge over other defenders, plus he's definitely seen as a player with big potential. Manolas is 3 years older than he is and may be seen as someone who has probably reached his top level already
If this signings goes through and we play with Bailly and Lindelof together I worry for our lack of aerial prowess.
I think versatility and age is perhaps the only thing in Lindelofs favour. But I don't think Mourinho will ever play Lindelof as a RB anyway and he's gone on record saying that he prefers not having round pegs in a square hole. Also, most CB's don't reach their peaks until about 30. Anyway, isn't it experience that we're lacking at the back currently?
Either way, I'm not going to question a players suitability over another without watching too much of either.
It's opinion matter of course. IMO Rojo's recent form can match up to any our other CBs in the past 3 season since SAF's retirement. Of course he needs to show consistency for longer period of time, but doesn't mean he's the prime suspect to be shown the door with Linderof signing, as he can be useful as capable back up CB and can adapt to both counter or certain level of possession based football.
The tactic for that game is playing direct and counter as quick as possible with few passes as possible using long ball toward the very Totenham's back line to bypass Totenham's midfield as much as possible, which is compact and energetic.
When losing possession, counter pressing Tottenham's backline. Tottenham lacks a good hold up targets up front. Tottenham would try to pass from their back through our midfield! Our CBs that game were good enough to domination aerial long ball if Tottenham tried to do so.
Our defensive players were given the green light to boot the ball off than trying to play cute passes and play out of the back. Limit short passing between defenders which could invite unnecessary trouble from Totenham's pressing which can be lethal on their date (see how they pressed City off the park).
In other games, when we use long direct ball, the aim is to take the ball down and hold up wait for support. For example West Brom, Crystal Palace games: they have the targets and willing to play long ball and hold up play. If we use same tactic we employed vs Tottenham then our midfield would be bypassed why the pressing mostly would be useless as they don't aim to play out from the back. These 2 games though, I was surprised how much Rojo and Jones have improved their aerial ability.
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Not sure are you really that deluded or your pretending you are.You've said you'd pick a fit Jones over him every time, making him, in your opinon the better choice. If he wasn't the better choice then why would you pick him? Do you understand what you are writing?
When asked how you come to that conclusion, you've admitted youve barely even seen him play!!
Incredible how you aren't getting this!
I said i don't like the idea of both of our starting CB's being under 23 with extremely limited EPL experience (Bailly less than 10 games for us) and Lindelof if we sign him only ever played 30 games of first team football in his career.
I've watched around 10 of his games from 30 he played in total, because i often watch Benfica due to Fejsa and Živković playing there.
That's soon jumped from yesterday's
You said you would pick Jones every time even though you have barely watched the bloke play, when I asked what you based it on you starting moaning like a kid without acknowledging you have no basis to make such a presumption. How is this difficult for you to understand?
Here's an idea, why don't you cut the bullshit and stop pretending you know the first thing about the player?
This lad a bit tad short? If he's short but got the ability like canavaro it should not be a problem.
I guess he was being sarcastic.
Lindeholf, Bailey, Pogba (and Zlatan for another year).
Can't fecking wait to play midget teams.
Can't fecking wait to play midget teams.
Haha comedy
You're still to show me where i've said it that Jones is better. I suggest you actually start reading what's been written instead of reading what you'd want to see.
How the fek is watching 10 out of 30 games that someone played translating to barely watching someone?
The fact that you keep ignoring that the lad only ever played 30 games in his Benfica A team career shows how delusional you are.
Yes i've said i'd rader pick fit Jones over this lad also fit because IK Jones is proven and EPL tested, while 30 games in Portugal league isn't enough playing experience.
Here's an idea for you, how about you get off your high horse and make peace with the fact that your opinion isn't definitive and that people are allowed to have different.
I think that Benfica won't want to sell for now because of the champion's League.
You probably rated Wes Brown more then Vidic because the latter never played in a top league prior to signing with us.Haha comedy
You're still to show me where i've said it that Jones is better. I suggest you actually start reading what's been written instead of reading what you'd want to see.
How the fek is watching 10 out of 30 games that someone played translating to barely watching someone?
The fact that you keep ignoring that the lad only ever played 30 games in his Benfica A team career shows how delusional you are.
Yes i've said i'd rader pick fit Jones over this lad also fit because IK Jones is proven and EPL tested, while 30 games in Portugal league isn't enough playing experience.
Here's an idea for you, how about you get off your high horse and make peace with the fact that your opinion isn't definitive and that people are allowed to have different.
I'd prefer that too. TFM would be our own extra skillful Dier.
So much this. And even in the 2 games where he was "brilliant" he should have been sent off for horrific tackles.
He is one of those players that gets carried when the team is playing well and people see that what little he has had to do as a result of the team collectively playing well must mean he is great...
He got absolutely trashed by everyone on here up until we started winning again. Can't remember a more unanimous criticism of aone of our players on here since he joined or before for that matter.
Off topic slightly but I see TFM in Midfield. He has too much to offer than be a RB.
Bit uppity aren't we? Whilst PL experience is preferable its not the be all and end all is it? Vidic has been already suggested as a perfect example and even this season Eric Bailly.Haha comedy
You're still to show me where i've said it that Jones is better. I suggest you actually start reading what's been written instead of reading what you'd want to see.
How the fek is watching 10 out of 30 games that someone played translating to barely watching someone?
The fact that you keep ignoring that the lad only ever played 30 games in his Benfica A team career shows how delusional you are.
Yes i've said i'd rader pick fit Jones over this lad also fit because IK Jones is proven and EPL tested, while 30 games in Portugal league isn't enough playing experience.
Here's an idea for you, how about you get off your high horse and make peace with the fact that your opinion isn't definitive and that people are allowed to have different.
I laugh when people complain about us buying players because tney forget about how often we get injuries..especially in defence and especially to Jones.
I think you are wrong. Those lads are 18 and 19. Its around age 22 when we should start worrying about them having a chance.
I agree 100%. My dream is to have him and Pogba in one midfield, long term. I don't know if it will ever happen
Is TFM good enough to play midfield?
thats the question. I think that he has played there for Holland and youth teams.
He has the pace, power, balance and strength to be formidable in the middle. I see him sitting beside or behind Pogba.
I really hope so. I think long term he is the midfield destroyer and carrier for the team. Break up play and distribute it as necessary. His power and pace are exciting and who knows perhaps he is more creative than I give him credit for. Maybe he can be box to box. He does seem to possess a good dribbling technique and breezes past people with good balance.
Here we go...
Someone call the fella who makes the United suits, stat!
Odd how 'a couple of games' turned into a third!!! Take your own advice and read before you reply.Haha comedy
You're still to show me where i've said it that Jones is better. I suggest you actually start reading what's been written instead of reading what you'd want to see.
How the fek is watching 10 out of 30 games that someone played translating to barely watching someone?
The fact that you keep ignoring that the lad only ever played 30 games in his Benfica A team career shows how delusional you are.
Yes i've said i'd rader pick fit Jones over this lad also fit because IK Jones is proven and EPL tested, while 30 games in Portugal league isn't enough playing experience.
Here's an idea for you, how about you get off your high horse and make peace with the fact that your opinion isn't definitive and that people are allowed to have different.
And you really think watching someone ten times is enough it make an assessment on their quality, you must think Vidic and Evra were shit then.
I've already told you this, twice. You said you'd pick Jones over Lindelof every time, making him, in your opinon, a better choice, do I need to tell you it again with puppets or have you finally grasped it now. You're becoming a bit of a joke now.
Cannavaro didnt have any problem.
Apparently he has a release clause of about £25m that activates in July. So they'll definitely sell if they can get about £10m more right now
My friend met him in Sweden just now, done deal.
So couple in Primera and couple in CL can't be 10 games?Odd how 'a couple of games' turned into a third!!! Take your own advice and read before you reply.
And you really think watching someone ten times is enough it make an assessment on their quality, you must think Vidic and Evra were shit then.
I've already told you this, twice. You said you'd pick Jones over Lindelof every time, making him, in your opinon, a better choice, do I need to tell you it again with puppets or have you finally grasped it now. You're becoming a bit of a joke now.
It's so funny how you're trying to spin this around.
I've said because of his age and inexperience I'd opt for Jones but like i said you just read what you would want to read and not what's written.
Go ahead, amuse me even more
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