You're going to have to elaborate more here. Better without them both? Or better when one of them isn't on the pitch?
Not that you have to, but why do you say this? Have we actually played better without them or do you think we would play better without them?
I think we would play better without Ibra more so than Pogba. I rate Pogba highly but I said when we signed him, he alone would not be good enough because we don't have the other midfield players to get the best out of him.
He is playing far too deep in my opinion pinging long balls to ibrahimovic. I think we need a Kante to free him. Herrera likes to press and leaves too much space in behind the understanding between the pair just isn't there. When you look at Dembele-Wanyama, Or Matic-Kante. They are controlling games.
I think we don't have that top draw Defensive midfielder to allow Pogba more freedom. I thought we'd go 4-3-3 to play him left of a 3 man midfield. Carrick is very old no longer his best.
I think we sometimes look better without Pogba because having someone like Bastian or Fellaini who just sits and doesn't go wondering off as much helps our counter attacks. Herrera-Pogba it just looks like at times they both go chasing down leaving space in behind too much, sometimes less is more having a bit more positional awareness is needed.
I think Rashford leading the line would also help increase team goals. Someone running the channels would improve our football increase our likelihood of getting fouls and penalties. Ibrahimovic limits the effectiveness of Mata/Martial, MHki at times. Especially if teams come and sit deep against us that's when you need someone spinning defenders, It was effective last season for us with Rashford.
He shouldn't be used as a winger. He should play up front or not at all, it's probably the reason he has regressed and lost his sharpness/confidence. He only looks lively on the wing when he comes off the bench vs tired defenders.
Lastly I don't think our draws are unlucky nor do I think we have bad players. Yes, we have been finishing badly but I don't believe our football is making scoring easily. We play a certain brand of football that isn't designed for clinical finishing.
It's not good for 90mins it's good in flashes or a few good moments. With Ibrahimovic I don't honestly see him scoring more than 1 goal a game which leads to draws should we concede.
We would be better off trying to get the best out of Martial, Mata and co. to increase team goals rather than trying force the ball to Ibra for us to score. I think we just need to free the shackles Ibra is a good player but he is detrimental to those around him and our style of play.