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It's awful but at least Mourinho remedied it by putting all of his goal-scorers into the side yesterday. Mata, Miki & Zlatan have to play against any "lesser" sides for me, with Martial or Rashford on the left.
I think Mata and Miki have to be nailed on starters against the teams who play defensively. By far our best players for playing short, quick passes to get past the parked bus.It's awful but at least Mourinho remedied it by putting all of his goal-scorers into the side yesterday. Mata, Miki & Zlatan have to play against any "lesser" sides for me, with Martial or Rashford on the left.
Tbh mata's goal scoring record this season is decent,I think Mata and Miki have to be nailed on starters against the teams who play defensively. By far our best players for playing short, quick passes to get past the parked bus.
Also, Mata doesn't have to run back towards his own goal against a team which plays defensively.I think Mata and Miki have to be nailed on starters against the teams who play defensively. By far our best players for playing short, quick passes to get past the parked bus.
HernandezUnited just need a player like Inzaghi. Someone who's only speciality is knowing how to score ugly and scrappy goals in big games.
Pogba (78 shots, 4 goals), Herrera (29 shots, 0 goals) and Lingard (19 shots, 0 goals) are the main culprits. Zlatan has improved his output recently.Tweet
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I don't get this how can Mkhitaryan be considered one of the best goal scorers but Martial and Rashford found lacking.Tbh mata's goal scoring record this season is decent,
he had a dip in form over christmas which seems to be par for the course
But otherwise he'll break 10 goals like he always does despite never really playing more than 60mins.
Its Rashford, Martial and Lingaard (and to a lesser extent Memphis) who have been disappointing and we should have got more from.
tbf it has to be luck. everyone of them knows how to finish and has shown it countless times. some of the misses are just bizarreIt seems very likely we don't spend any time in training trying to fix this. Seems like we're (Mourinho) is just putting it down to luck/composure and leaving it to sort itself out.
It's a pretty big problem though which I'm baffled with, as it's been the same story all season and it's not just one or two players missing chances.
Nah we missed the buck with sadio mane joining Liverpool. He should have been our man, he is an incredible player with super blistering pace acceleration directness and goal scoring ability and finishing.United just need a player like Inzaghi. Someone who's only speciality is knowing how to score ugly and scrappy goals in big games.
Griezmann can do what Mane is doing. He's got the pace and can run in behind. Mata was trying to run in behind today when Ibra dropped deep and Watford's defence shuffled over to cover. That can be Griezmann's role.Nah we missed the buck with sadio mane joining Liverpool. He should have been our man, he is an incredible player with super blistering pace acceleration directness and goal scoring ability and finishing.
Liverpool have overpaid for a lot of dross over the last few years but Mane's brilliant and exactly what we need/ed. I wonder if van Gaal really did want him or it just papers.Nah we missed the buck with sadio mane joining Liverpool. He should have been our man, he is an incredible player with super blistering pace acceleration directness and goal scoring ability and finishing.
By the way griezman will cost us world record money, and for a world record money he really should get 30 plus goals a season that too in a more harder league in terms of pushing a player's physical boundaries. In big games winning first and second balls and acceleration while counter attacking are the moments which decide the match in the end. That's why teams with players like mane and n golo kante are super successful in epl. Mane reminds me of our very own ji sung park who's workrate energy pace and acceleration made united ruthless counterattacking and hardworking side up an down the pitch, while as I feel griezman costing us so much money would still have to adapt to this league like Mkh had to and is still adapting to reach his Dortmund levels. I mean just watch mane in the epl he's incredibly fast and direct and costs 60 m less.Griezmann can do what Mane is doing. He's got the pace and can run in behind. Mata was trying to run in behind today when Ibra dropped deep and Watford's defence shuffled over to cover. That can be Griezmann's role.
Well, no. His buyout is less than the world record.By the way griezman will cost us world record money
Do those numbers include the goalkeeper's saves?Wow Zlatan has a pretty shit conversion. As a striker he really isn't lethal.
To be fair, big chances include the likes of Heaton's ridiculous save from his overhead kick vs. Burnley, or the header yesterday which was saved by Gomez. Or even the chest turn volley vs. Leicester.Wow Zlatan has a pretty shit conversion. As a striker he really isn't lethal.
That's what I was thinking. It's better to watch the games and form an opinion. And my opinion is that Ibra has overall had a strong season with a few matches where he's been "sloppy" with the addition of a whole lot of goalkeepers making world class saves. The important thing is that he creates a lot of chances - on a specific day both he and the team will explode and Ibra could for example score 3-4 goals in one game. I can't imagine all of the goalkeepers constantly playing their "life's greatest game" against Manchester United and Ibra and his teammates constantly being "unfocused and sloppy".To be fair, big chances include the likes of ridiculous save from his overhead kick vs. Burnley, or the header yesterday which was saved by Gomez. Or even the chest turn volley vs. Leicester.
Doesn't tell you the full story at all.
He's defo missed a few great chances*, but then he's also been unlucky with some incredible goalkeeping or bad luck.That's what I was thinking. It's better to watch the games and form an opinion. And my opinion is that Ibra has overall had a strong season with a few matches where he's been "sloppy" with the addition of a whole lot of goalkeepers making world class saves. The important thing is that he creates a lot of chances - on a specific day both he and the team will explode and Ibra could for example score 3-4 goals in one game. I can't imagine all of the goalkeepers constantly playing their "life's greatest game" against Manchester United and Ibra and his teammates constantly being "unfocused and sloppy".
That can only be the fact that he wasn't their preferred signing and so they take every chance they get as soon as Ibra does something less than perfect. Some players get praise all the time (or avoid criticism when having an off day) and some get critique all the time (even when it's unwarranted, having done a lot of good things during a match or a period of time, but only seeing the "bad").He's defo missed a few great chances*, but then he's also been unlucky with some incredible goalkeeping or bad luck.
As you say, he's getting the chances & his output is comparable to anyone else in the league. He's been a great signing and I'm amazed that not everyone is delighted with him.
*If you watch Sanchez, Lukaku etc, they also miss some cracking chances, all strikers do.
Which is odd as I'm certain that Zlatan signing was extremely important in convincing Miki & especially Pogba to join. Players want to play with top players & Zlatan is a big draw.That can only be the fact that he wasn't their preferred signing.
This is what's great about him, he's not just a goalscorer but does a lot of other things, but some just focuse on the fact that he sometimes misses the chances or that the goalkeeper makes a fantastic save (but that mean Ibra misses a sitter). For instance, the game against Watford, bad day as a scorer, but his overall game, really good. It's like they don't see that he draws the defenders towards himself and therefore can create space for the others, even when he drops deep.Which is odd as I'm certain that Zlatan signing was extremely important in convincing Miki & especially Pogba to join. Players want to play with top players & Zlatan is a big draw.
He always occupies defenders with his size, he scores as much as anyone else in the league, he creates, he leads and he's a big big name. What's not to love about his signing?
Well even just by watching him this season without stats he's been very wasteful. He usually misses bunch of chances before scoring.To be fair, big chances include the likes of Heaton's ridiculous save from his overhead kick vs. Burnley, or the header yesterday which was saved by Gomez. Or even the chest turn volley vs. Leicester.
Remove those 3 and you're closer to a bunch of other strikers in the Prem.
The stats simply don't tell you the full story at all, you need to look at each "big chance" in isolation for each player.
How many players score every chance they get? They are not robots.Well even just by watching him this season without stats he's been very wasteful. He usually misses bunch of chances before scoring.
He should have been scoring hattricks in some games.
He's not quite ruthless.
Thing is, I think you'd be saying the same about whoever we choose to replace him. Strikers miss chances.Well even just by watching him this season without stats he's been very wasteful. He usually misses bunch of chances before scoring.
He should have been scoring hattricks in some games.
He's not quite ruthless.
And then when you remove all the great saves the others have had against them and he is back behind them. You can't just do that, it's an utterly ridiculous way of justifying something in the face of contrary evidence.To be fair, big chances include the likes of Heaton's ridiculous save from his overhead kick vs. Burnley, or the header yesterday which was saved by Gomez. Or even the chest turn volley vs. Leicester.
Remove those 3 and you're closer to a bunch of other strikers in the Prem.
The stats simply don't tell you the full story at all, you need to look at each "big chance" in isolation for each player.
That's because those fecking bus parking wanker teams have to then attack.Thread should be retitled to "Scoring the first goal is a serious problem". Seems like in so many matches this season once we score we end up getting a few more and the scoreline makes it seem much easier than it was.
Why did you completely ignore the last paragraph of my post that you quoted which tackled exactly that @Dion ?And then when you remove all the great saves the others have had against them and he is back behind them. You can't just do that, it's an utterly ridiculous way of justifying something in the face of contrary evidence.
Because that's still not justification. Unless you have serious doubts about why one player might have had more big saves against them you can't just say "ignore all Ibra's". You have expressed no methodological criticisms what-so-ever.Why did you completely ignore the last paragraph of my post that you quoted which tackled exactly that @Dion ?