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Neymar taking the piss out of Kurzawa and Rabiot's instagram post after the first leg. Kurzawa seems to enjoy celebrating too early. I remember a French U-21 game against Sweden when he did it on the pitch and was made to look like a total dick.

 

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Cavani or Di Maria converts late and their 'bottle job' becomes PSG ends an era - the fickle nature of fans

PSG earned every goal they converted and played terrific for nearly every moment over 185+ minutes against Barcelona, nothing to be ashamed of IMHO. But this is always the refrain, Barca win then opposition bottled it - Barca lose, they are on the decline. Extremely unfair to both clubs
 

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Cavani or Di Maria converts late and their 'bottle job' becomes PSG ends an era - the fickle nature of fans

PSG earned every goal they converted and played terrific for nearly every moment over 185+ minutes against Barcelona, nothing to be ashamed of IMHO. But this is always the refrain, Barca win then opposition bottled it - Barca lose, they are on the decline. Extremely unfair to both clubs
Their defending was atrocious, they certainly did not play terrific for 180 minutes. And maybe Cavani and Di Maria missed their chances because they bottled it
 

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Neymar taking the piss out of Kurzawa and Rabiot's instagram post after the first leg. Kurzawa seems to enjoy celebrating too early. I remember a French U-21 game against Sweden when he did it on the pitch and was made to look like a total dick.

He made a peace sign in a picture taken of him in the dressing room.

Really struggle to see what he did wrong there.
 

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So, it was all praise for PSG a couple weeks ago. Verrati is the best midfielder in the world. Rabbit and Meunière are top class. Barca are finished and then they comeback which me and a few thought was possible and now PSG sucks and Verrati is overrated. People really need to stop judging games 1 at a time. :lol:
I will laugh at the expense of PSG but both results are freak results, both teams lost it away from home.
 

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He made a peace sign in a picture taken of him in the dressing room.

Really struggle to see what he did wrong there.
He celebrated in front of a few of the Swedish players which is a c*nt thing to do.

So when Sweden managed to qualify they returned the favour.

Justice.
 

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Their defending was atrocious, they certainly did not play terrific for 180 minutes. And maybe Cavani and Di Maria missed their chances because they bottled it
Not every missed opportunity is down to bottling it, overly simplistic - in that case, every week players & teams bottle it

Barcelona score in the 3rd minute and then cannot penetrate the deep block of PSG for nearly 40 minutes, until Iniesta creates a goal out of virtually nothing - there's no atrocious defending there

From there, you can't really blame PSG for any of the goals that followed so again, it's naive to reflexively assess PSG as having bottled it because something that has never happened before, did this time. I was impressed with how PSG played throughout the tie, let down perhaps that they defended so deep in the return leg but also understood this was a logical tactic to take considering the advantage. But I always go back to what Pep once said about making your own luck etc., he wants his teams to play open & take risks, to have the courage to go for the win rather than defend a lead
 

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Not every missed opportunity is down to bottling it, overly simplistic - in that case, every week players & teams bottle it

Barcelona score in the 3rd minute and then cannot penetrate the deep block of PSG for nearly 40 minutes, until Iniesta creates a goal out of virtually nothing - there's no atrocious defending there

From there, you can't really blame PSG for any of the goals that followed so again, it's naive to reflexively assess PSG as having bottled it because something that has never happened before, did this time. I was impressed with how PSG played throughout the tie, let down perhaps that they defended so deep in the return leg but also understood this was a logical tactic to take considering the advantage. But I always go back to what Pep once said about making your own luck etc., he wants his teams to play open & take risks, to have the courage to go for the win rather than defend a lead
I'm sorry but Emery bottled it, he made his team play in a way that is opposite to what PSG are good at, he put his players in a defensive mindset and every goals were going to crush their morale. After every goal the sentence "Barcelona is the team able to do a remontada" was going to be louder in their minds, Emery should have let his player play their game, he should have put them in their comfort zone.
 

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I am still in absolute shock to this.
One of the most INSANE capitulations I have ever witnessed in football.

Obviously there've been teams before who've conceded 6 goals at the Camp Nou. But goals like these? My god. If I was a PSG fan I'd feel completely empty for the next week and I'd probably be done with football till the next season starts.

Hats off to Barca of course. PSG fecked themselves over last night, but Barca still had a huge task to do. To accomplish that with 5 scrappy goals just shows the amount of will power from some of the players that was involved here. Respect for that. Still dislike them though.
 

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I am still in absolute shock to this.
One of the most INSANE capitulations I have ever witnessed in football.

Obviously there've been teams before who've conceded 6 goals at the Camp Nou. But goals like these? My god. If I was a PSG fan I'd feel completely empty for the next week and I'd probably be done with football till the next season starts.

Hats off to Barca of course. PSG fecked themselves over last night, but Barca still had a huge task to do. To accomplish that with 5 scrappy goals just shows the amount of will power from some of the players that was involved here. Respect for that. Still dislike them though.
If you look at both games you shouldn't be shocked by it, Barcelona did the same thing during the first leg.
 

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Not every missed opportunity is down to bottling it, overly simplistic - in that case, every week players & teams bottle it

Barcelona score in the 3rd minute and then cannot penetrate the deep block of PSG for nearly 40 minutes, until Iniesta creates a goal out of virtually nothing - there's no atrocious defending there

From there, you can't really blame PSG for any of the goals that followed so again, it's naive to reflexively assess PSG as having bottled it because something that has never happened before, did this time. I was impressed with how PSG played throughout the tie, let down perhaps that they defended so deep in the return leg but also understood this was a logical tactic to take considering the advantage. But I always go back to what Pep once said about making your own luck etc., he wants his teams to play open & take risks, to have the courage to go for the win rather than defend a lead

Sorry but you're just trying to make PSG's performance appear less shit to big up Barcelona's achievement. Or at least so it seems. You don't have to though. What Barcelona accomplished there is incredible, no matter how fluky the goals were. Determination towards the end. A great team has to be able to score goals like this too, there's more to the game than just pretty passing. Barcelona showed they have that in their locker too last night which is quite surprising.

But as much as their accomplishment has to be praised. To give away these 6 goals in such an important game against one of the biggest clubs in the world...that's unacceptable. Of course PSG could've done more about goals number 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6. There's no debate. Those 5 were shocking defensively. From letting a ball bounce close to the 6 yard box, to not tracking runners after the 90th minute when you're holding on to a thin lead, to fecking tackling someone with your head. My god. There are no words for this.
 

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From there, you can't really blame PSG for any of the goals that followed
Really?? Their defending was awful, you're being very generous. They could also hardly string 2 passes together for most of the game. It was in no way a terrific performance from them.
 

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I'm sorry but Emery bottled it, he made his team play in a way that is opposite to what PSG are good at, he put his players in a defensive mindset and every goals were going to crush their morale. After every goal the sentence "Barcelona is the team able to do a remontada" was going to be louder in their minds, Emery should have let his player play their game, he should have put them in their comfort zone.
And get rolled up even sooner? Easy to be an armchair coach after the fact but with a 4-0 lead, there's logic to not leaving yourself open to being Barca'd at Camp Nou.
 

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Really?? Their defending was awful, you're being very generous. They could also hardly string 2 passes together for most of the game. It was in no way a terrific performance from them.
They played for the counters, there was too much work for Barcelona to do and for 87 minutes that tactic worked so I don't think I am being generous, just honest
 

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And get rolled up even sooner? Easy to be an armchair coach after the fact but with a 4-0 lead, there's logic to not leaving yourself open to being Barca'd at Camp Nou.
And there is logic to not play, like you never do.
 

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If you look at both games you shouldn't be shocked by it, Barcelona did the same thing during the first leg.
Certainly. I'm not shocked in the way of "how?"
I understand completely "how" this type of thing can happen. Emotions, fear and will power play such a huge role in football. If you're insecure, you're going to concede. It's a simple rule.

I'm more shocked by the fact that it was two of the most expensive squads in the world facing each other and still each produced absolutely atrocious performances in the away legs where they were each completely gutless. PSG just beat Barcelona 4-0 and should be absolutely brim full of confidence because of that. How do you play with such insecurity after beating them 4-0 in the first leg where Barcelona themselves showed that they can be insecure and gutless as well. They just showed the world and themselves that they can absolutely demolish one of the biggest clubs in the world. And then they go on and do this. Painful.
 
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Certainly. I'm not shocked in the way of "how?"
I understand completely "how" this type of thing can happen. Emotions, fear and will power play such a huge role in football. If you're insecure, you're going to concede. It's a simple rule.

I'm more shocked by the fact that it was two of the most expensive squads in the world facing each other and still each produced absolutely atrocious of a performance in the away legs where they were each completely gutless. PSG just beat Barcelona 4-0 and should be absolutely brim full of confidence because of that. How do you play with such insecurity after beating them 4-0 in the first leg where Barcelona themselves showed that they can be insecure and gutless as well. They just showed the world and themselves that they can absolutely demolish one of the biggest clubs in the world. And then they go on and do this. Painful.
Despite what FCBarca is trying to pretend, in the case of PSG you can't be confident when you are not used with the gameplan.
 

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They played for the counters, there was too much work for Barcelona to do and for 87 minutes that tactic worked so I don't think I am being generous, just honest

I think nobody would say Arsenal played terrificly against Bayern for the full 90 minutes in this second leg. Well, their performance was better than PSG's and they still lost 5-1.

How you can argue PSG were terrific when they just got destroyed 6-1 is beyond me. You act like they were terrific because they were on their path to lose by >only< 2-3 goals. When you win by 4 in the first leg, why should you be playing for a loss in the second leg at all? They could've just tried to make it a kind of open game themselves. Every single away goal would've made the task for Barca so much more difficult. And for a team that tries to shut up shop and park the bus, the way they conceded was Sunday League level. Awful freak performance by PSG. There's just no way that this performance was anywhere close to their usual level.
 

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@Lyricist I'd say that Arsenal were unlucky in the return leg because as I have mentioned before, for me Lewandowski is not only offside but barely looks a penalty nevermind a red. A heavy result for them was all down to the red card, not a similar situation
 

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Like PSG had never played in the 1st leg or how Barcelona had never played in that leg? Again, easy to be critical after the fact.
PSG pressed very high and intensely during the first leg which is exactly how they tried to play every weeks under Emery. PSG didn't play their natural game and they clearly showed a lack of self belief, if you want to make up a different narrative suit yourself but like other said you don't have to, since Barcelona did the job and did very well.
 

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'I did foul Di Maria'
Barcelona star Javier Mascherano ADMITS fouling Angel Di Maria in the penalty area during Barca’s memorable win over Paris Saint-Germain


 

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Cavani or Di Maria converts late and their 'bottle job' becomes PSG ends an era - the fickle nature of fans

PSG earned every goal they converted and played terrific for nearly every moment over 185+ minutes against Barcelona, nothing to be ashamed of IMHO. But this is always the refrain, Barca win then opposition bottled it - Barca lose, they are on the decline. Extremely unfair to both clubs
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They were fantastic for 90, and terrible for 90. Barca pressed exceptionally well- but can you point to a proper clear chance made in the entire match? No 1v1, no crosses to unmarked players, no series of passses that completely opens the defence.
The Barca goals were the product of insane workrate (exemplified by the 2nd) and of PSG's inept defence (also exemplified by the 2nd) and terrible composure.
 

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I wonder how the French press will call it now that performance of PSG?! LOL
 

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I wonder how the French press will call it now that performance of PSG?! LOL
Don't you worry about L'equipe they are going to lambast them for a very long time.
 

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They were fantastic for 90, and terrible for 90. Barca pressed exceptionally well- but can you point to a proper clear chance made in the entire match? No 1v1, no crosses to unmarked players, no series of passses that completely opens the defence.
Did you not pay attention to the deep block defense PSG were set up in? There were not going to be passes to somehow unlock things for a clear chance because PSG tracked the runners exceptionally well. You intimate poor from PSG yet just as easy to conclude they did a fantastic job defending - both 1st half goals were down to creating a goal scoring chance out of sheer will, skill, luck etc.


The Barca goals were the product of insane workrate (exemplified by the 2nd) and of PSG's inept defence (also exemplified by the 2nd) and terrible composure.
And in a similar fashion, their workrate in the 1st leg was nonexistent, they looked like the had just had a scrimmage hours before the match - part of that was Emery & PSG but a lot of that was Barcelona. At Camp Nou, there was an intense battle trying to break the deep PSG defensive block to create chances for nearly 40 minutes between Suarez' opening goal and Iniesta's magic - it wasn't down to a lack of effort, hustle or workrate from either team. Truth is I was impressed at the battle being waged on the pitch for long streches when there was no scoring
 

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I wish caf would just kill the recycled "blud/fam" jokes. it's the way some people talk. move on
 

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Did you not pay attention to the deep block defense PSG were set up in? There were not going to be passes to somehow unlock things for a clear chance because PSG tracked the runners exceptionally well. You intimate poor from PSG yet just as easy to conclude they did a fantastic job defending - both 1st half goals were down to creating a goal scoring chance out of sheer will, skill, luck etc.
Do you remember when we beat you at OT 1-0 in the Semi-Final? That was a good defensive performance. Or Chelsea when they drew 2-2 at your place. Last night PSG were terrible. You don't concede 6 goals defending well.
 

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Do you remember when we beat you at OT 1-0 in the Semi-Final? That was a good defensive performance. Or Chelsea when they drew 2-2 at your place. Last night PSG were terrible. You don't concede 6 goals defending well.
That team was in shambles and still outplayed United, IMO. This team has arguably more talent and faced a deeper defensive block than at OT
 

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Did you not pay attention to the deep block defense PSG were set up in? There were not going to be passes to somehow unlock things for a clear chance because PSG tracked the runners exceptionally well. You intimate poor from PSG yet just as easy to conclude they did a fantastic job defending - both 1st half goals were down to creating a goal scoring chance out of sheer will, skill, luck etc.




And in a similar fashion, their workrate in the 1st leg was nonexistent, they looked like the had just had a scrimmage hours before the match - part of that was Emery & PSG but a lot of that was Barcelona. At Camp Nou, there was an intense battle trying to break the deep PSG defensive block to create chances for nearly 40 minutes between Suarez' opening goal and Iniesta's magic - it wasn't down to a lack of effort, hustle or workrate from either team. Truth is I was impressed at the battle being waged on the pitch for long streches when there was no scoring

There's revisionism and then there's that, after a team conceded 6.

Here is a reminder of what it looks like when a team creates chances against a deep defence:

Here's a reminder of an actually functional deep defence:
 

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That team was in shambles and still outplayed United, IMO. This team has arguably more talent and faced a deeper defensive block than at OT
OK so you outplayed United in 2008 and PSG were terrific last night. I don't think we need to continue this discusion.
 

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OK so you outplayed United in 2008 and PSG were terrific last night. I don't think we need to continue this discusion.
Have you seen the highlights recently from '08? Even Scholes acknowledges they were fortunate