Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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Scored vs Burnley.
well done noodlehair, you are a starThe i newspaper has quoted you in their paper today.
Apparently not good enough for us 
Yeah... Central midfield was - and has been - our issue. Absolutely overran and lacked physicality. Nothing to do with our inability to create cut chances or finish them off.Apparently not good enough for us
Our CM is poor, he'd walk into and instantly improve it. Would rather have had Dier in my midfield today.
He wouldn't have made any difference today.
This is so fecking sad.The i newspaper has quoted you in their paper today.
I think it is a pretty good description of the player. IMourinho likes this type of player though - Obi Mikel.
No I agree, but that wasn't my point, more that he's certainly good enough to play for us.
He is not on the level of Pogba or Herrera who we were missing.
To be fair, he's probably had a better season than both of those even if he's been in defence at times.
i agree.
Except he hasn't at all. Lost out in midfield to Wanyama and has looked very dodgy as a CB.
Stats would prove you wrong sadly.
The stats have spoken. They tell us everything, of course.
He's had a few wobbles at CB yes but wouldn't call him dodgy, he's a good young talent and still plenty of time to develop. He won't be a worldy no doubt but as a squad player he's a great option and should develop well. He didn't really lose out to Wanyama I don't think, Wanyama was bought in my opinion as Poch always had an idea of playing with 3 at the back, Dier fits into this system so well. As we seen in the second half today.
They tell us more than your bizarre insight
Yep, suggesting a mainstay of the team second in the league has been better than two underwhelming players is totally bizarre. Wacko!!
You literally have no footballing insight.
I suggest you try and watch the players play before passing comment.
Pretty much. You know all times we won the league and you were some way away in the distance did you think Park was a better midfielder than Gerard?
Pedro is better than Sanchez using that logic. fecking Cleverley was mainstay in our team when we won the league.
www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2016/2017/eric_dier/641/641/15553/0/p|premier_league/2016/2017/paul_pogba/641/641/2710/0/p|premier_league/2016/2017/ander_herrera/641/641/1538/0/p#pass_completion/successful_passes/assists/chances_created/tackles_won/successful_take_ons/interceptions#total
Can someone imbed that for me please? And tag our top pundit.
Can someone imbed that for me please? And tag our top pundit.
Dier has performed better this season than all our CMs (according to the stats), is currently playing for a team much better than ourselves and who hold a higher league ranking (again) yet many think he isn't fit to play for us and wouldn't be an upgrade on our current players.
Strange.
Strange.
Interesting stats to be fair!
You are taking a really simplistic view. Finishing chances has been our big problem
You can apologise now
That's quite lazy cliche with Mikel. Doesn't seem like Mourinho carrying him around to other teams. He's simply a squad player. It's not like Mourinho made him the team captain, and undroppable. Ancelotti even commented that Mikel is similar player to himself. Mikel survived all that time for different coaches too.
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Of course it has and I'm not disputing that. My original point has been lost along the way; in my view Dier would be a good player for us and would improve our team (starting 11). I'm amazed that's being disputed.
No commentYou can apologise now
As a midfielder he isn't better than Pogba or Herrera.
He's not even that good in defensive work, is he? His possession stats seems like suggesting similar play to Smalling who also happened to score so well despite very erratic with his passing, compare to our other CBs.
I wouldn't swap him for Pogba or Herrera.
He is a good player but I don't want him because it would take a ridiculous amount of money and I don't think he's worth the amount it would take. Would rather get someone like Fabinho
Anderson has been levels above Gerrard in terms of skill because he's been a mainstay of the team that won CL and numerous PLs.
Levels above.
We should not buy dier just because he is english like carrick
Hmm. After much thought I've come to the realization that if United were to buy Dier, maybe he'd be better used up top seeing as Martial, Rashford and Mkhi (who are all quite clearly players that spurs could only dream of being able to attract by the way) can't score in a brothel.
It's debatable though because United (who are undoubtedly chock full of worldies in every position) have so many players so much better than their Spurs counterparts (despite being worse off points wise than Moyes and LvG currently) that it would be a struggle for Dier to even cement a place.
It's debatable though because United (who are undoubtedly chock full of worldies in every position) have so many players so much better than their Spurs counterparts (despite being worse off points wise than Moyes and LvG currently) that it would be a struggle for Dier to even cement a place.
Buying English is pretty relevant, with the 8 players that needs to be home-grown though.. Carrick, Rooney and Young will be gone within 1-2 years and Jones/Smalling is not the future.. - that's 5 out of 8 players right there.
I've hated his comments on Herrera, but he would make good sense, when he also can cover CB.