Well, i will want to play Cruyff's 343 diamond formation.. Classic positional play all the way, ha! Of course i will buy firstly half of the Ajax side and will mix it with few Monaco and Dortmund players also..
So then doom merchant... What would you do?
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I'd decide on a system. Say, robust defensively, don't need to dominate the ball, but can spring a counter attack decisively and quickly. Soaking pressure and catching teams out on the break. In games where teams sit back, similar strategy but obviously more on the front foot and attack decisively. No dilly dally on the ball.
Then I'd buy players which suit the system, not the present strategy which is to go for the biggest name we can.
I'd look for the best coaches to sort out our inability to finish and our indecisiveness on the ball.
I'd sell players who simply shouldn't be here any longer such as Rooney.
To me, football isn't just about having the best players. It's about having a strong and confident mental attitude, hard work, and an actual team chemistry. It's a cliche, but a team which when you add the components actually produces something greater than its parts.
Then I'd buy players which suit the system, not the present strategy which is to go for the biggest name we can.
I'd look for the best coaches to sort out our inability to finish and our indecisiveness on the ball.
I'd sell players who simply shouldn't be here any longer such as Rooney.
To me, football isn't just about having the best players. It's about having a strong and confident mental attitude, hard work, and an actual team chemistry. It's a cliche, but a team which when you add the components actually produces something greater than its parts.
First we need to create an identity in the team. I can't work out what we are trying to achieve as a squad. Take Zlatan's signing for example. Clearly a fantastic player but slows down any form of build up play. We then don't use wing play and crosses to use his aerial threat because we don't have natural wingers. Similarly Pogba thrived in a midfield 3 at Juventus, yet we try to put him a midfield 2 with defensive duties. It was a disaster at the beginning of the season.
In my opinion we have 2 fantastic strikers in Rashford and Martial but used them as wingers all season. Something I think now has damaged their clinical eye for goal.
Personally I would go 4-3-3. The sad truth is we need 5-6 players and that amount of players is unrealistic and almost impossible to integrate in one season.
We desperately need pace and width. I would buy an actual LW and RW. Potentially Douglas Costa as he is out favour at Bayern. I would also try Sanchez at Arsenal as he is proven in the league and still has contract issues.
We need more steel in midfield. My perfect signing would be Dembelé from Spurs as he would be perfect next to Pogba and Herrera. Possibly Naingollan as well.
It looks as though Shaw will either remain injury prone for the rest of his career or not up to scratch. So a LB who likes to overlap would be required. This stops the burden of Valencia being our only threat from wide areas.
We should also fight for Mbappé as he is such a special talent in the games I have seen. There is also the potential De Gea is leaving so we would have to replace him as well. Oblak would be my preferred choice.
Currently we do not think long term and I would approach the transfer window like Chelsea. Make the academy stronger, buy good youngsters from lower leagues and loan them out. If they are any good we would actually give them a chance (unlike Chelsea), if not you can sell them at likely a good profit.
Basically we need to stop buying names at overinflated prices, have an idea of formation and buy players based on it. Juventus sold Pogba and purchased Pjanic for much less and is probably as good a player. Just because we have money shouldn't mean we should waste it.
In my opinion we have 2 fantastic strikers in Rashford and Martial but used them as wingers all season. Something I think now has damaged their clinical eye for goal.
Personally I would go 4-3-3. The sad truth is we need 5-6 players and that amount of players is unrealistic and almost impossible to integrate in one season.
We desperately need pace and width. I would buy an actual LW and RW. Potentially Douglas Costa as he is out favour at Bayern. I would also try Sanchez at Arsenal as he is proven in the league and still has contract issues.
We need more steel in midfield. My perfect signing would be Dembelé from Spurs as he would be perfect next to Pogba and Herrera. Possibly Naingollan as well.
It looks as though Shaw will either remain injury prone for the rest of his career or not up to scratch. So a LB who likes to overlap would be required. This stops the burden of Valencia being our only threat from wide areas.
We should also fight for Mbappé as he is such a special talent in the games I have seen. There is also the potential De Gea is leaving so we would have to replace him as well. Oblak would be my preferred choice.
Currently we do not think long term and I would approach the transfer window like Chelsea. Make the academy stronger, buy good youngsters from lower leagues and loan them out. If they are any good we would actually give them a chance (unlike Chelsea), if not you can sell them at likely a good profit.
Basically we need to stop buying names at overinflated prices, have an idea of formation and buy players based on it. Juventus sold Pogba and purchased Pjanic for much less and is probably as good a player. Just because we have money shouldn't mean we should waste it.
Seriously?! There are about 6 threads full of comments that do exactly that.
Surgically remove your head from Mourinho's arse.
You can question someone without thinking you know more than them.
I would ask the team to try and win games instead of playing 6 at the back and hoping for a 0-0 for little old us.
Sadly so.
Absolutely, but there are plenty of posts that absolutely do give the impression that the poster knows more than Mourinho does. I could literally find dozens.
Absolute nonsense, as proven these past few weeks. Our build up play without Zlatan is non-existent.
FWIW I thought Martial proved again today that he's a better wide forward than a striker.
Yes, it's a pointless job in football which has never worked in the Premier League. If I was a manager I would want to be buying the players not having some other person doing it. It often causes divisions as well.
make way for the big man!You're one of the biggest moaners on here.
Also, this thread was needed. I skimmed the first page and the usual suspects don't have an answer or clue as to what they'd do.
The job Jose took on was a bloody huge one. He inherited a mess. It couldn't and won't be fixed in a season and the sooner you spoilt, 'I want it now' drama queens accept this, the better.
The job Jose took on was a bloody huge one. He inherited a mess. It couldn't and won't be fixed in a season and the sooner you spoilt, 'I want it now' drama queens accept this, the better.
You'll find the worthless moaners, who the Caf would do well to feck off, will come in here and try and be funny/smart without answering the question.
@Kag
Ask Mourinho what he would do and just do that.
Great post.
Get the best DOF we can find. Commit to a style of football and stick to it. Invest in youth, and get a manager who's on board with that.
Nah feck it, just let Ed loose with another £200 mill.
Nah feck it, just let Ed loose with another £200 mill.
This thread does is not relevant to me (I'm not a doom merchant). We still have a chance to win another trophy and get into Champions League. That's better than the great Spurs side, Liverpool, and City, who have the greatest football tactician to have ever lived.
Maybe, if we don't win the final I could stretch my complaints to a few sentences.
Good post.
When it comes to predicting a result that's probably true. Aside from that I'm not.
Reactions to todays loss was absolutely comical, the sanity of posters on here is waning. Who the feck cares what the result was today? After we slipped through to the Europa league final by the skin of our teeth our season became that final, every other fixture is damage limitation friendlies.
The nonsense about 'embarrassing performance we should win etc etc' is misguided. All our eggs are in one basket and the results are going to reflect that. Time you all dealt with that reality.
The nonsense about 'embarrassing performance we should win etc etc' is misguided. All our eggs are in one basket and the results are going to reflect that. Time you all dealt with that reality.
I'm just going to take that lightly. I just said I like that idea.
Anyway, since you asked.
First of acknowledge that club is in need of rebuilding, a slow and steady approach is what I called for the moment Fergie and Gill left. I understand that United is a brand and there is that fear of being left behind in the commercial sense hence why I believe the board is more focused on immediate success, which in it's sense is not bad because football today transcends beyond the turf. This is why I have always been an advocate of Pochettino over Mourinho.
I always said that I'd take 4 years of purposeful intentional rebuild from the ground up, at the cost of trophies. I'd like to believe that United are bigger than Liverpool in that we won't fall of the top that easily.
It looks like we have done a good job in the scouting department in terms of hiring with view of long term success, I'd look for a manager that will or can match that ideology. Personally, José does not fit into that mould.
Do I think José will be bring success? I expect so mainly because he can attract names and United will give him the freedom of the bank and not because I'm 100% sold on him. He can guarantee immediate success by I don't see it lasting long and more importantly sustainable.
With the view of long term stability, offload players that are part their peak or have gone stale, or have very few years of potential left - Rooney, Carrick, Fellaini, Darmian, Smalling, Young et al
Invest in players that are 2/3 from their peak potential. Develop a sustainable philosophy, not necessarily for the sole promotion of youth but one that the scouting team can have a long term plan for also. Whether related or not but news that the academy scouts are more focused on physical players over talent is worrying and dare I say, José-esque.
Don't take it personally, you seem like a nice person and some of your posts have brought a smile to my face.
But the constant negativity does get me down - see my post in the general forum today as an example of what I have to put up with on a personal level!
Lower expectations for a couple of seasons and sell anyone who doesn't like that idea. Darmian, Smalling, Jones, Fellaini, Young, Rooney, Lingard to be moved on. Promote Pereira and Tuanzebe.
Focus on buying the most talented players and some under the radar type of players like Kante at Caen.
Play attacking football with a lot of high pressing. Grow slow but steady as a team back to the top.
Tottenham/Monaco/Dortmund would be the inspiration.
Focus on buying the most talented players and some under the radar type of players like Kante at Caen.
Play attacking football with a lot of high pressing. Grow slow but steady as a team back to the top.
Tottenham/Monaco/Dortmund would be the inspiration.
I'd appeal to his sense of ego. Or kidnap his kids.
I know you're not. Neither is @AXVnee7.
The United Forum is a disaster at the moment though with spoilt and ungrateful gobshites. I'm just trying to figure out if any of them have a brain and can offer a decent insight on what they think is wrong as opposed to regurgitating the same old negative bollocks.
If negative posters get you down I'm really not the girl for you. I'm relentless in the match day forum but thats about it.
Don't know if you consider me one but I actually agree with much of what you say and this too.
Nothing. I have full trust and faith in Jose and for the most part, I agree with his decisions.
But for arguments sake...
I'd get an entire new back line. Sell Smalling, Jones and Shaw. Bring in Varane or Van Dijk for CB to partner Bailly/Rojo, sign Mendy for LB.
Get an "engine" midfielder like Matuidi, Bakayoko or Naby Keita. Any one of them would be brilliant. But I think Matuidi would be the best option cause of his experience and potential chemistry with Pogba.
Griezmann for the RW spot to increase our influx of French talent.
And Lukaku and Chicharito to make up for losing Ibra.
My ideal squad for next season...
De Gea
Valencia - Varane - Rojo - Mendy
Herrera - Matuidi - Pogba
Griezmann - Lukaku - Martial
Romero
Darmian - Bailly - Tuanzebe - Blind
Mata - Fellaini - Pereira - Mkhitaryan
Rashford - Chicharito
But for arguments sake...
I'd get an entire new back line. Sell Smalling, Jones and Shaw. Bring in Varane or Van Dijk for CB to partner Bailly/Rojo, sign Mendy for LB.
Get an "engine" midfielder like Matuidi, Bakayoko or Naby Keita. Any one of them would be brilliant. But I think Matuidi would be the best option cause of his experience and potential chemistry with Pogba.
Griezmann for the RW spot to increase our influx of French talent.
And Lukaku and Chicharito to make up for losing Ibra.
My ideal squad for next season...
De Gea
Valencia - Varane - Rojo - Mendy
Herrera - Matuidi - Pogba
Griezmann - Lukaku - Martial
Romero
Darmian - Bailly - Tuanzebe - Blind
Mata - Fellaini - Pereira - Mkhitaryan
Rashford - Chicharito
Where has this new habit of quoting a nothing post and calling it a great one just because you agree with it come from?
@Peanut Butter Mourinho did take on a massive job. No one is saying he had to fix it in one season though. Not many were questioning him a few months ago even though we were sixth then too because there actually were big signs of progress. But to spend what he did and actually finish lower in the table and now have us back playing terrible football too is not good enough and deserves to be criticised. How do people not get this?
The plastics simply cannot and will not accept that, unfortunately.
Good thread all the same. I'd be happy to contribute in a constructive manner, were it not for the fact that my management ability is really rather poor. I quit my fantasy football team after 7 minutes or so due to the tedium of picking which players to have on my team. I tried to pick the most expensive players I could find, only to run out of money after 3 signings.
Pfff who'd be a football manager.
Similarly to @Peanut Butter I like you but you can come over as very negative, especially when I've browsed the match day forums.
Everyone likes to moan, that's not the point. There's a cluster of agenda driven posters here at the moment though who offer little to no insight but relentlessly darken the United forum and match day.
There's a thread going in the general and some really good long time Caf posters refuse to come in here now, or in the match day forum, because of it.
Quite sad really.
My point isn't that Zlatan causes bad build up play but that it makes ours a lot slower than the other top 6. There have been many times this season where he has been one on one with the defender but doesn't have the pace to get past him.
Martial's two games have been against two very good teams where Jose has essentially played 6-3-1. Martial has been isolated in both games because of the tactics not through any fault of his own.
I would also note I still think Jose is the right man for the job. I'm just worried we are being linked with the wrong type of plays like James and Griezmann. Where do they fit in his formation?
In all honesty the way we play needs addressing. We never go at teams from the first bell. It's too measured. We appear to do the one thing that saf maintained you can never do at a club like ours, play with fear, fear of what the opposition can do to us, fear of over committing thru fear of being countered ,which never happens anyway due to not taking enough risks.
It's nothing revolutionary, but when you have our resources, you should be confident enough to really get at most of your Opponents from the off. The absolute worst that can happen , is that you concede early. That still gives you 80 odd minutes for us to win the game. The doom mongers would know doubt argue , aargh but we could get hammered. You gotta grasp the nettle imo. Fortune favours the brave, always has.
Nor do Costa or Kane in fairness Josep.
I'd resign after the first match but not before appointing Giggs manager until the end of the season