General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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Nope. I think he's overplaying his hand a bit
Go on Jez!
What's he got to lose currently?
It's good politics. She wants to paint him soft on terrorism, he's got her with her pants down on that one. She let 20,000 police officers go in the last 7 years. Considering we've suffered from 2 terrorist attacks in 2 weeks, i'm be shouting it from the rooftops.
He's nothing to lose.
He's right, though. She was an atrocious Home Secretary and she's proving to be an even worse PM.
Exactly, it's exactly what he should be doing.
He does have something to lose though. If some polls are right and the gap is narrowing he could well get a result, even if he loses, that allows him to stay on. It isn't a zero-sum game for him any more.
Not sure this is a subject where Corbyn isn't incredibly vulnerable.
That's just clever media the Tories do it a lot. Over play the issue to keep it in the news cycle. She now has to respond
How is Corbyn vulnerable on this? May is the one who is incredibly vulnerable on the issue. Pressing her on it is a good move IMO.
He's on camera saying he's uncomfortable with the shoot to kill policy and boasting about opposing anti-terror legislation. On the basis that 90% of people aren't going to research the nuances of both these statements, it's rather obvious why he's vulnerable on this issue.
Besides the police numbers issue as an important point. But calling on her to resign 3 days away from polling day just looks silly. Why make something that could gain traction a joke by doing that?
If that is true, and Corbyn gets proper air time with those comments i.e. BBC, Sky then that could be a political masterstroke. He needs to go in heavy handed and show he would be tougher on security and put money in where it needs to go.
He could also say I'd rather delay spending on Trident and commit a large sum in the billions to police budget.
He could also say I'd rather delay spending on Trident and commit a large sum in the billions to police budget.
So you think that Libya was part of the same Bush/Blair in Iraq? No nuance or recognition of the Arab Spring taking place, just a Christian crusade huh? My last point, demonstrates the duplicity of your favoured runner in this race. A man, moreover, who would not intervene to prevent massacre so as to maintain his own supposed moral superiority. Do you imagine that Libya is existing in a vacuum? The West's sodding off (wrongly) after the intervention has only mean that others have done so, to our cost. Being non-interventionist in 2017 does alter that fact.
Not sure I should laugh given the reason he's saying this but...
Delaying Trident costs a lot more money.
Can't believe a potential PM would even consider being even slightly uncomfortable with a shoot to kill policy when Brazilian electricians still freely roam the streets of this country. And as for his views against indefinite detention without charge, well...
This seems dumb.
Look at his twitter, the last 10 posts are all about Police cuts.
They there was his speech yesterday that got no air time, but some said was his best speech over his career (I am pained to admit I haven't watched it).
Great politics.
She is the PM and was the home secretary for the past 7 years... It's beyond stupid of her to campaign on security in the light of recent events. Corbyn needed to come out with a statement like that because the media isn't doing much questioning of said campaign.
Took me a second. Ouch.
I'm now convinced it's the best thing Corbyn could have done.
Could someone explain the whole Trident thing to me, do Nuclear weapons have an expiry date? or is it just the case of getting bigger and better bombs.
He didn't actually 'call' for her to resign, I watched the interview.
It was put to him that Cameron's policy advisor an an ex chief constable have said she should resign, and does he agree.
He said he agreed, but that the election was thursday anyway so its already in the publics hands. I thought it was a good response.
It was put to him that Cameron's policy advisor an an ex chief constable have said she should resign, and does he agree.
He said he agreed, but that the election was thursday anyway so its already in the publics hands. I thought it was a good response.
He's giving the Tories a taste of their own medicine. Hopefully this sticks to Theresa and she's seen as soft on policing, dash in a pinch of the Saudi-ISIS links and and she'll probably buckle.
Its not the bombs being changed, its the submarines.
It's not the warheads and missiles, it's the submarines.
Well security is gonna be a major topic anyway in public space in light of recent events plus May and tories are trying. To. Push him on the corner on that so he may as well go all out on her weak. Spot as well.
He called out Saudi Arabia directly by name as a funder of terrorism. That is why you won;t see it anywhere.
It's an absolute master stroke to be honest. There is no way the media can ignore him calling for someone in her position to resign over gross negligence. It also absolutely blows to pieces her image of being "tough on immigration" and "good for security". The fact of the matter is that cuts she made directly impeded the police's ability to keep the country safe and we've had a number of terrorist incidents that ranking police officers of past and present have said could have been prevented if they had the resources.
She was told about the risks by various Police officials and not only did she choose to ignore it, she accused them of fear mongering and look who was right. What's worse is that she is now fear mongering herself over homeland security issues yet rather than promising more resources to the police so they can actually do their job, she is pushing other parts of their manifesto like cyber censorship and government control of internet which are just token policies that will have a far greater impact on the average man than it will on the terrorists ability to network and plot covertly.
Thanks..right and is it really a necessity that the submarines are upgraded? like does it affect our nuclear capabilities, is it urgent that we upgrade them?
Has the Saudi Arabia/report sections of that speech been shown on the BBC yet? If not, I'm sure Sir Roger Carr being Chairman of BAE Systems whilst also serving on the BBC's governing body has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Look at this, this is why she is dangerous. The Q&A with journalists
Q: Corbyn says he will give the police new resources. Can you match that?
May says people should look at Corbyn’s record. He has always opposed giving the police new powers.
So, no she will not give the police more resources (she was still discussing further cuts just a month ago).
But what is worse is that now, after two attacks in a fortnight, when discussing national security, she still employs dissembling bollocks to avoid answering questions.
She treats the country with contempt.
Q: Corbyn says he will give the police new resources. Can you match that?
May says people should look at Corbyn’s record. He has always opposed giving the police new powers.
So, no she will not give the police more resources (she was still discussing further cuts just a month ago).
But what is worse is that now, after two attacks in a fortnight, when discussing national security, she still employs dissembling bollocks to avoid answering questions.
She treats the country with contempt.
'Sadiq Khan says the police need the support of citizens. But it is also true that the more resources they have, the easier it is for them to do their job. It is a fact that the Met has lost £600m for its budget. There are plans to cut the Met budget in the future by £400m, and to change the policing formula too, which would also cut the Met’s funding.'
(Guardian)
(Guardian)
If we want to retain a nuclear deterrent, then yes. The current subs are well past their sell by date.
Considering doing so for the last couple of months has seemingly earned her another 5 years as PM, why would she stop now?
I think its obvious the Tories will win but will they get a majority?
Metal becomes brittle (which is deadly in submarines), at some point electronics get harder and harder to update. The youngest of the 4 is 19 years old.
That is Cressida Dick getting around Purdah. She was stood next to him. She can't comment on political stuff during an election, but he can.
I don't personally know a single Labour voter outside of this forum, so this reaction is a useful window if nothing else.