But we'd have to assume that the technology of keeping these subs off the radar would also at least try to keep pace? So I don't fully understand the point.I dont know. Everyone is building and developing marine and submarine drones.
That's not something ive thought about, but there is probably the real prospect of thousands of these drones looking for nuclear submarines.
Not sure highly likely is thay far off
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I don't know a single Tory voter outside this forum. Everybody I know votes Labour or the greens. Guess it just comes down to which part of the country you are from. Manchester is very much a Labour city.
Or people who say they vote Labour but lie as they dont want a political debate.
Or to be attacked. I've never voted Tory but the way I've witnessed people who say they do be treated like they're committing a crime isn't very nice. It isn't just disagreement either, it's real anger. I would imagine it's the same the other way around where people who were brought up with a certain set of political values with absolutely no exposure to anyone outside people who agree with them, have very little tolerance of the views of other people or even of their right to hold different views.
'Never kissed a Tory' t-shirts being a frivolous yet symptomatic example. I think it's generational too. Unless part of the student movement young people tend not to be terribly tribal. Left leaning generally but not tribal in a way that those who were around in the 70s and 80s seem to be and seem to have a bizarre mistrust of anyone not equally as tribal as they are.
Most of my friends (25-40ish age group) vote for a rainbow of different parties and none seem to view the other as the 'enemy' for voting a different way. I prefer this and find it much more conducive to constructive conversation than people who's loyalty to a party is matched only by loyalty to their football club where everything quickly descends into a shouting match based on "How dare you disagree with me"
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Leafy Enfield.
I thought that said Lefty Enfield for a second there.
Just think about the scale. I could imagine them being a threat to attack subs that are likely to be within a relatively small area. Vanguards (and eventually Dreadnaughts) can be nailed down to "probably somewhere in the atlantic", lurking for months at a time. And if there are multiple thousands of these anti-sub drones quietly plodding around the sea for months at a time, happily giving away their position with sonar pings, I'd imagine they'd be a fair sight more vulnerable to passive anti-anti-sub drones than the subs themselves. And so on.I dont know. Everyone is building and developing marine and submarine drones.
That's not something ive thought about, but there is probably the real prospect of thousands of these drones looking for nuclear submarines.
Not sure highly likely is thay far off
My mate I was best man for just moved to Enfield - if I introduce you to him you'll at least have one.
I was slapped (hard) by a girl in 2010 for saying the Lib Dems did the right thing democratically by forming a coalition with the party who had the most seats.
Maybe you are right.
But lets say small water based drones were perfected, capable of locating nuclear submarines in a decent distance, each costing $100,000. Building ten thousand of them would only cost $1bn. There a are lots of passive techniques that could be used (measuring Infared, accoustics, etc). They could even conduct active measurements just very infrequently.
Hmm. Not sure. Dont know enough about the subject
May also opposed a lot of anti-terrorism legislation. Corbyn even referred to it in a debate, not that anyone would know as the quote was left off the news coverage of the debate.
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About you saying & not appreciating why us non-Tories are angry.
The Tories represent the haves. The haves have too fecking much and always want more (most of them). They have a large tendency to believe that the have-nots deserve to be the have-nots & deserve to to be where they are. There is constant 'politicking' in this regard as a way of retaining power at the very least.
The Left represent the disenfranchised of various types - they tend to get a bit pissed off with being treated like shit & with the selfish attitudes of those people who are considerably better off than they will ever be.
Conservative policy seems consistently about taking from the poor & giving to the rich rather than the other way around or operating to benefit everybody. Money flows naturally to those who already have it anyway**, it hardly needs political encouragement from a bunch of jaundiced cnuts who think they are better than everybody else.
(I'm not even a proper Lefty btw - there's some strange stuff goes on on that side too. They over-adhere to principles & don't like any mention of reality sometimes, that's for sure, and a fair few are incredibly bad tempered) <--- that would include me too atm, tbf.
**Thank feck for Hayekian trickledown that's what I always say,
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About you saying & not appreciating why us non-Tories are angry.
The Tories represent the haves. The haves have too fecking much and always want more (most of them). They have a large tendency to believe that the have-nots deserve to be the have-nots & deserve to to be where they are. There is constant 'politicking' in this regard as a way of retaining power at the very least.
The Left represent the disenfranchised of various types - they tend to get a bit pissed off with being treated like shit & with the selfish attitudes of those people who are considerably better off than they will ever be.
Conservative policy seems consistently about taking from the poor & giving to the rich rather than the other way around or operating to benefit everybody. Money flows naturally to those who already have it anyway**, it hardly needs political encouragement from a bunch of jaundiced cnuts who think they are better than everybody else.
(I'm not even a proper Lefty btw - there's some strange stuff goes on on that side too. They over-adhere to principles & don't like any mention of reality sometimes, that's for sure, and a fair few are incredibly bad tempered) <--- that would include me too atm, tbf.
**Thank feck for Hayekian trickledown that's what I always say,
.This is a good bit of analysis
https://marriott-stats.com/nigels-b...-5-steps-to-making-sense-of-the-latest-polls/
Does dampen my spirits though. But actually, I wouldn't read too much into it. His part 4 analysis had a huge Tory win, but didn't factor into whether turnout would be different at all.
People who bring up the anti-terrorism legislation angle either ignore the Tories' voting record on it or can't cite one piece of legislation they're particularly in favour of. It's a complete dead cat.
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Labour should absolutely hammer than one home from now on. She wins, we will be bombing syria by the end of summer, trump needs something to show he is strong, and she will follow along.
And that is th emost optimistic scenario. He may go for Iran to prove his anti russia credentials.
Labour should absolutely hammer than one home from now on. She wins, we will be bombing syria by the end of summer, trump needs something to show he is strong, and she will follow along.
And that is th emost optimistic scenario. He may go for Iran to prove his anti russia credentials.
Terrorism Act 2000
May - Absent
Corbyn - Against
Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001
May - For, then Absent
Corbyn - Against
Fourteen-day detention 2003
May - Against
Corbyn - Against
Control Orders - 2005
May - Against
Corbyn - Against
ID cards 2006
May - Against
Corbyn - Against
Ninety-day detention 2006
May - Against then For after changes.
Corbyn - Against
Counter-terrorism Act 2008
May - Absent
Corbyn - Against
Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act
May - For
Corbyn - Against
Justice and Security Act 2013
May - For
Corbyn - Against
The Investigatory Powers Act 2016
May - For
Corbyn - Against
I think his voting record on this is a lot to do with him recognising the problems internment presented on the road to peace in NI.
It is they have got a Labour Councilor Elif ERBIL voted in in 2017 and a Labour MP Joan Marie RYAN voted in in 2015.I thought that said Lefty Enfield for a second there.
A large part of it is generational because back in the Thatcher era there were genuine winners and losers from conservative policies, and Labour stood in real ideological opposition. The problem with New Labour and the changes it forced within the Conservative party was that the parties were competing over basically the same ideological ground around the center. People were still losing out, but less dramatically and neither major party really represented them anyway, so they tended to just disenfranchise from politics altogether ("Politicians are all the same" etc).
What we're seeing now is the parties moving significantly apart again and as the Tories move increasingly right more people are losing out and rather than it being a gradual decline in many cases it's dramatic and severe. When you push people to the point where they're dependent on food banks and worry about not being able to keep a roof over their heads, the anger becomes very real. Those people now have a home back in the Labour Party, and so now we're seeing a return to the genuinely passionate tribalism of old.
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Wait... what?
Why?
I can't imagine how pissed off the labour members will be if the unelectable reason is proven wrong.
Penis Penispenis by name, penis by nature.
Woodcock is that another name for a dildo?
The Official Monster Raving Looney Party leader said he'd consider his position in the unlikely event any of their candidates kept their deposit. Woodcock's in the wrong party.
His whole name is full of slang terms for penis. He must have had a hard time as a child at school.
Unrelated but one improvement in this campaign, compared to the last couple, is the debate about the NHS doesn't include a Tory leader using his deceased son as a deflection tool.
Was just watching some video of NHS workers telling people to vote anything but Tory, explaining they cannot be trusted on it, and the memories of him claiming his experiences meant he could be trusted came back.
Was just watching some video of NHS workers telling people to vote anything but Tory, explaining they cannot be trusted on it, and the memories of him claiming his experiences meant he could be trusted came back.
Digging into the heart of the election.
Does Watford have country's tallest Parliamentary hopefuls?
Does Watford have country's tallest Parliamentary hopefuls?
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What an absolute penis
That's no excuse to try and sabotage the party he is supposed to represent 3 days before the election though.
He is a left over Blairite. I can't speak for everybody but i have always dreamt of having a left wing Labour party and now we have one, some of the members will always resist it.
Penis Penispenis is basically the MP for BAE Systems so Corbyn mentioning Saudi Arabia has him panicking.