General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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because this guy is the single source of truth with no bias, yay!
Are we expecting a swing to May after the events in London? I was expecting a swing to Tories after Manchester, as the public often does swing to the right in times like these, but perhaps that's complicated by May having overseen police cuts which are now under immense scrutiny.
The numbers are a matter of public record.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/05/theresa-may-police-cuts-margaret-thatcher-budgets
Also remember, she cut the Army, Navy and Air Force even further than the police, and the fire service too.
I'm expecting it to be irrelevant.
My uninformed thoughts are that the country seems pretty unaffected by the London attack and that at this stage in the campaign the only thing that makes much of a difference (assuming no monumental cock-ups) is what side of bed we wake up in on Thursday.
Wouldn't this be the Defence Secretary's remit, rather than Home?
Indeed.
I should have said the tory government, she was an integral part of it since 2010 though, and fallon is still there. you get him with may.
Jez seems to have backtracked on his tactical masterstroke from earlier
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Trouble with that is, Corbyn is literally on video at a rally a few years back calling for further cuts to the military and to scrap Trident.
It really wasn't much of anything, in the same way that it wasn't a masterstroke this recent comment isn't really much of a backtrack.
The original video
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...whilst the uniformed thoughts run contrary
In 'normal' crime yes, but with terrorism that is not really the case.
Quite. There seems to be a consensus that is helps the Conservative campaign.
As I've said before, in some thread or another, Manchester didn't seem to boost the Tories and Cox's murder didn't seem to help Remain, so I'm skeptical as to whether these things make a noteworthy difference.
Wait, he literally says "indeed I would" to a question about whether he'd back calls for her to resign. The text says "he would back calls". Where is the misrepresentation this time?
He literally clarifies it at the end of the clip, after hearing the question, that the election is the best opportunity to deal with it. A clip that is a whole 31 seconds long, Ubik.
So he's hardly 'backtracked on his tactical masterstroke from earlier' as you so eloquently put it has he?
I'm still inclined to be thinking that more Plod is a better idea for identifying, monitoring & generally catching all kinds of bad guy than less Plod is.
So, he did back calls for her to resign then?
So in the original interview he said that we have a election on Thursday and that's the best way to deal with it.
then he back tracks to Sky by saying.
"I think we should vote on Thursday to decide who our MPs are and decide who our government is."
Isn't that the same message.
You're brilliant. I'm going to miss your inability to watch video and instead simply take the text as gospel, when the election is over.How odd that the BBC chose not to include the shoot to kill bit immediately after he talks about the election. At the very least you'd think they'd appreciate the shout-out he gives the BBC Trust!
To the untrained eye, yes. But, because the text says he's backtracking, he's 100% backtracking and nothing like say... video footage, can change that.
''Conservative candidate Maria Caulfield and a group of tactical voting campaigners are engaged in a war of words following a Sound of Music inspired protest in Lewes.''
http://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news/lewes-election-protest-sparks-war-of-words-1-7993725
''...campaigners dressed as nuns sang an adapted version of the Sound of Music’s ‘How do solve a problem like Maria?’, with lyrics changed to criticise Ms Caulfield’s record as the constituency’s MP.''
Ms Caulfield criticised the protest - “The tolerant left at their best in Lewes yesterday preaching hate.''
http://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news/lewes-election-protest-sparks-war-of-words-1-7993725
''...campaigners dressed as nuns sang an adapted version of the Sound of Music’s ‘How do solve a problem like Maria?’, with lyrics changed to criticise Ms Caulfield’s record as the constituency’s MP.''
Ms Caulfield criticised the protest - “The tolerant left at their best in Lewes yesterday preaching hate.''
Yeah but he breathed in between the statements so its okay or something....
I miss your frequent references to immigration mugs and abstainers that stopped after Corbyn pledged controls on immigration and put forward a manifesto that did this to the poorest
How odd that the BBC chose not to include the shoot to kill bit immediately after he talks about the election.
To the untrained eye, yes. But, because the text says he's backtracking, he's 100% backtracking and nothing like...say video footage, can change that.
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We've already been there Ubik and I said it was shite, but you know this already. Are we going to complete the hattrick of you ignoring video tomorrow because the last two days have featured some absolute crackers on your part.
Anti-terrorism voting records:
Cabinet:
Prime Minster - Theresa May (18.1% for)
Home Secretary - Amber Rudd (100% for (she only had the one vote))
Foreign Secretary - Boris Johnson (16.1% for)
Defence Secretary - Michael Fallon (18.1% for)
Shadow Cabinet:
Leader of the Opposition - Jeremy Corbyn (7.7% for)
Shadow Home Secretary - Diane Abbott (29.3% for)
Shadow Foreign Secretary - Emily Thornberry (92.4% for)
Shadow Defence Secretary - Nia Griffith (99.2% for)
Cabinet:
Prime Minster - Theresa May (18.1% for)
Home Secretary - Amber Rudd (100% for (she only had the one vote))
Foreign Secretary - Boris Johnson (16.1% for)
Defence Secretary - Michael Fallon (18.1% for)
Shadow Cabinet:
Leader of the Opposition - Jeremy Corbyn (7.7% for)
Shadow Home Secretary - Diane Abbott (29.3% for)
Shadow Foreign Secretary - Emily Thornberry (92.4% for)
Shadow Defence Secretary - Nia Griffith (99.2% for)
The UK's intelligence failure elephant is shown to be in the room and the MSM have to acknowledge it.
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You said the return of the mug policy was "less than ideal" or something, and blamed the rightwing of the party for the benefit policy. For someone who continually talked about mugs and abstainers, it seems to have gone down your priorities list.
'Magic money tree.'
Is there a video of him telling Sky that he did not think she should resign as they are reporting?
Amazing! Has there ever been a worse use of stats?
Oh so you already knew I'd spoken against it? It's the, for want of a better phrase, downside of having a democratic party. The alternative is what the Tories went with and had them rushing to clarify pledges because ministers hadn't seen them prior to the manifesto's release.
It isn't perfect but, there's enough in Labour's manifesto and backed up by the speech made on Saturday for me to back both it and Corbyn.
So just to confirm, you were calling Corbyn/McDonnell "tory wannabe cnuts"? Because they were the ones in control of the manifesto, Rachael Reeves didn't break in to take them out.
Tweets claim "tens of thousands" out to see Corbyn speak in Gateshead now.
Nice try, Ubik. Clause V of the Labour Party rule book:
It is weird because this is the exact excuse given for why 'Red Ed's' manifesto wasn't as revolutionary as he'd have liked and nobody seems to have issue with it then.
We have a shit Labour council too. They've just wasted nearly £50m on a controversial cycle lane: which not only do very few people seem to use, but is even purportedly a danger to health. Should either a Have or a Have-not be unfortunate enough to require an ambulance, it'll now struggle to build up speed due to the road modifications. This, of course, would on its way to our one remaining A&E unit in the borough.
They agree to it at the clause V meeting. You'll remember that the draft manifesto was leaked before that meeting, and it went through with no major revisions.
Which explains why Trident renewal isn't in it because Corbyn is famously against nuclear weapons and as he was, as you put it, 'in control of the manifesto' it naturally wouldn't make the cut. Oh hang on...
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