Every election it's the same. They all say a load of stuff to get peoples attention to vote for them and never actually carry any of it out. Corbyn's manifesto, how are they going to pay for all that without putting the country into masses of debt? As for the Tories, this election has been put together as one massive ego trip for May, she thinks she's going to get a huge landslide but the way things have been going (not showing up to the debates, backtracking on dementia and cuts to our emergency services) I'm at a loss as to why anyone would vote for that party.
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Thats just Bradford West for you, they should let Trump tour the area it would blow his mind.
What was this tweet saying?
I've taken a look, it seems they are using 63%, which is the number they are getting as 'certain to vote' from the age group.
http://survation.com/conservative-lead-labour-dropped-16-points-month-whats-going/
So you're talking about the latest Survation poll? It has 82% of 18-24s at 10/10 certain to vote in it - http://survation.com/wp-content/upl...2017-V-Tables-020617TOCH-1c1d0h3-microage.pdf
All of their numbers are too high, points towards a sample that's too politically engaged (the same problem as 2015).
Said that the survation poll assumed 90% turnout from young voters, though @Nogbadthebad seems to have corrected that.
63% still sounds high to me though.
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Just saw this in an above link. Isn't this really really good for Labour? Why aren't more people talking about this?
290,000 (or 400,000 under 35) young people? That's not a huge number, and you also have to consider where those people live.Just saw this in an above link. Isn't this really really good for Labour? Why aren't more people talking about this?
If you assume they're clustered in university towns and cities then it's not particularly useful for Labour.
I thought the whole idea was that because it's in June and not May then there will be more students at home?
I can't believe they're posting that table as "registrations to vote", it's APPLICATIONS to register. Since January, there have been 4.5m applications to register, yet there's only 1.1m more people registered to vote in that time.
Please just read the Labour Party manifesto.....as Jeremy has said time and time again, it is ALL fully-costed and has been given the backing of over 100 (think it's 138) leading economists. I realise that the Tories have kept banging on and on about 'magic money tree's' etc...but actually it's not that hard...Labour are saying that in the main they will pay for the implementation of these policies by raising Corporation Tax and an increase on tax for those earning about £85K
Yes I agree Corbyn's manifesto is ambitious and no I do not believe that every single one of his manifesto pledges will be delivered in full but at least they seem to understand what the people they represent care about and have a plan. What do the Tories stand for? They are drifting further and further right for no apparent good reason
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I am furious about the Conservatives using the attacks in London and Manchester recently for political gain. To keep implying that somehow a vote for Corybn enables these people or risks our national security is a dirty, dirty trick even for them
Surely even hardcore Conservatives must realise that telling people to vote for them or face being slaughtered in the streets is just beyond deplorable. What kind of democracy do we live in when our Government use fear and intimidation to enforce more misery on their electorate?
Surely even hardcore Conservatives must realise that telling people to vote for them or face being slaughtered in the streets is just beyond deplorable. What kind of democracy do we live in when our Government use fear and intimidation to enforce more misery on their electorate?
This is not true.
Reminds me of 'My Lovely Horse.'
Was this posted in full here? I've been busy lately. This is full of journos with questions. Am I right to assume she dodged them all?
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Possibly.
That reads as #fakenews. I don't see that article on the FT?
Yet those same Labour MPs will happily trot out the 'will of the British people' line when it comes to Brexit but refuse to fully get behind their leader who's been elected twice, both times with a huge mandate.
Wankers.
Well... they've done the best they can.
The Tory Government has public servants at their disposal. Labour do not have that access.
It's fully costed in the same way my holiday budget is.
I dunno, you're asking for Conservatives to think about anybody except themselves.
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I don't think that's true mate. I think he's a Plaid Cymru candidate spreading nonsense.
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JC is politically correct?!
Plaid Cymyyyyyyrrrleannewoodruu
It is what's required to be done to achieve Conservative plans to heavily regulate the internet.Not a chance that any of those could/will be implemented.
If they actually were, then (all going to plan) as a Computer Science graduate in 3 years time I will have no option but to leave the UK and I certainly wouldn't be alone in that. The skills shortage in the industry will hit the economy hard.
Another thing worth noting is that security will actually be reduced in the long term and quite significantly as that will create an environment where it's difficult if not impossible for future security experts to grow organically and form their skill sets.
Most of the best minds at GCHQ are where they are today because they were able to play around with security vulnerabilities at home and at University.
Also it's worth noting that it's likely that in time new solutions to getting around the restrictions will occur and they will be at Step 1 once again.
Whether it happens or not remains to be seen but believe me stranger things have happened.
They have not costed the renationalisations at all, so far as i am aware. A main tranche of the manifesto, and likely omitting billions from the calculation that voters must make. Aside from me and Jippy nobody seems to be fussed though.
With a few exceptions, the Tories are basically offering more of the same. But then i'm not on her gushing with enthusiasm about their programme of policies, or making wildly inaccurate statements about the state of their manifesto (on the contrary in fact).
Where as Labour's policies were back by 129 experts and economists the other day.
http://www.ier.org.uk/news/129-economists-experts-back-labour-proposals
I get people's disbelief in the polls and I'm quite sceptical nyself but if the model hasn't changed from when the polls were conducted a month ago and the Tories were sitting on an almost 20 point lead why are they so difficult to believe now that they are close?
I think a lot of you are underestimating the power of Labours manifeto. I think it's absolutely fantastic and I'm a well documented Jeremy Corbyn critic around this forum. I think he has managed to appeal to the traditional Labour voters and a lot of the people who do not traditionally vote for one party based on preference but policies. Let's call this group the centrists who hold the balance of the election. They can quite clearly see May and Tories are taking the piss with thwir campaign and manifesto thinking they have it in the bag.
I think we will see a very very surprising result in the exit polls at 10pm Thursday night.
I think a lot of you are underestimating the power of Labours manifeto. I think it's absolutely fantastic and I'm a well documented Jeremy Corbyn critic around this forum. I think he has managed to appeal to the traditional Labour voters and a lot of the people who do not traditionally vote for one party based on preference but policies. Let's call this group the centrists who hold the balance of the election. They can quite clearly see May and Tories are taking the piss with thwir campaign and manifesto thinking they have it in the bag.
I think we will see a very very surprising result in the exit polls at 10pm Thursday night.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Nationalisation would not normally be included in the budget (Nationalising the banks wasn't either).
The reason being, you are trading one asset (cash sitting around) for another asset (Royal Mail / British Gas / whatever).
Again, forgive me if I'm wrong.
Obviously you still may have to borrow to do this, so government borrowing could and would shoot up.
Competition anyone?
https://goo.gl/forms/dJj4jwVkuBIMYjTJ3
Predict the size of the Tory majority come Friday morning. Tiebreaker is # of seats won by Labour.
No prize at the moment but if we get enough people we could have a think.
I will close the survey to new entries Thursday at 5pm. Then will post everyone's prediction to keep track of. Might make the depressing inevitability a bit more fun...
https://goo.gl/forms/dJj4jwVkuBIMYjTJ3
Predict the size of the Tory majority come Friday morning. Tiebreaker is # of seats won by Labour.
No prize at the moment but if we get enough people we could have a think.
I will close the survey to new entries Thursday at 5pm. Then will post everyone's prediction to keep track of. Might make the depressing inevitability a bit more fun...
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ah... I might have read somewhere that re-nationalisation doesn't really count as a cost on the balance sheet because you're mainly buying the fixed assets which have a theoretical resale value and the other bit of the expense is blah blah blah something else... write-able off over time or an investment or something
so 'Big Book' wise it's all fine,
(don't hold me to any actual accuracy in any of the above though, please)
Done (the poll about polls)
Give us a list of people's predictions when most have had a chance to get round to it?
Competition anyone?
https://surveyplanet.com/53416463asqf86e83198f
Predict whether the Poll about the Polls will have a winner!
I'll be offering a Kenwood Blender (Juicers out of stock) as the prize.
https://surveyplanet.com/53416463asqf86e83198f
Predict whether the Poll about the Polls will have a winner!
I'll be offering a Kenwood Blender (Juicers out of stock) as the prize.
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That's the plan - what I said in the last part of my post. Or are you meaning there is something wrong with that?
I just said the same thing. Therefore we must be correct.ah... I might have read somewhere that re-nationalisation doesn't really count as a cost on the balance sheet because you're mainly buying the fixed assets which have a theoretical resale value and the other bit of the expense is blah blah blah something else... write-able off over time or an investment or something
so 'Big Book' wise it's all fine,
(don't hold me to any actual accuracy in any of the above though, please)