AndyJ1985
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For someone who is often said to have a brilliant footballing brain, he is very predictable with his long balls out wide and his pointless chipped shots.
260 more matches. Zanetti had 343 more matches while Maldini had 275 more matches.How many matches did Giggs end up on?
Massively this. I started saying it to my most 'footbally' mate a while back, still well after I'd realised it myself, but he just went 'it's Rooney mate, what are you on about?'I think fans of rival clubs struggle to understand what we were saying at the time
So not very many basically. Now list the players that drop off before they play 700 games. I'm guessing it is most players that play the game.37 more matches than Rooney in his career. Messi has played one game less than Rooney. Ibra has played 81 more matches than Rooney. Iniesta has 46 more matches than Rooney. Dani Alves has 49 more matches than Rooney. Buffon has 244 more matches than Rooney but he is a keeper so it is a bit different.
By laughing at him, we're laughing at ourselves.Stop being so precious. His enjoyment of football isn't dependant on us not laughing at him on an Internet forum.
So you're going to put Rooney up against two of the greatest players of all time. One a child prodigy and the other an athletic freak of nature.Rooney - 31 years old, Total games played 757
Messi - 30 years old, total games played 756
Ronaldo - 32 years old, total games played 862
By the end of the season they will have probably played more than Rooney. So yeah....no.
Why has their footballing ability got anything to do with how their body has fared?So you're going to put Rooney up against two of the greatest players of all time. One a child prodigy and the other an athletic freak of nature.
Give it a rest. Compare him to your average premier league player in terms of miles on his body.
They are exceptions that's why. Next you'll point out Ryan Giggs. Some players can do it but a majority cannot sustain that level. Look at Shevchenko in his latter years vs his prime years or Ronaldinho. Players get old and lose that extra bit of burst they had in them. But of course it is a "Rooney myth" spread by "his mates in the media"Why has their footballing ability got anything to do with how their body has fared?
James Milner has played the same amount of games, has the same body type and is doing just fine.
I'm laughing at a chubby scouser who couldn't take care of himself and declined to the point that the club let him go for free and even paid half a year's wages to get him out the club.By laughing at him, we're laughing at ourselves.
It's not that people are criticizing him but from what I am reading, there seems to be some sort of pleasure for people in seeing Rooney fail miserably. I don't understand that mindset and it makes normal people like myself become Rooney defenders.His performance gained some attention as it was bad. This thread is being used to track him now he's moved on. People will have their opinion - even if it's simple.
What you reckon we're meant to be discussing in here? His hair? His preference for the elderly?
And yet that chubby scouser is a club legend. Number one on the chart. It must suck to be you in this case.I'm laughing at a chubby scouser who couldn't take care of himself and declined to the point that the club let him go for free and even paid half a year's wages to get him out the club.
Pethaps the people who were shot down laughed at for arguing Rooney was finished years ago are now feeling vindicated, and are having a bit of a laugh at his expense to let their frustrations out.It's not that people are criticizing him but from what I am reading, there seems to be some sort of pleasure for people in seeing Rooney fail miserably. I don't understand that mindset and it makes normal people like myself become Rooney defenders.
Indeed he was. And I think he knows he's done for.Let him enjoy his football. We got the best years out of him so why slag him off?
He's gone, he's shit, we get it. It just makes us look bush-league by laughing at how shit he is. This guy is our all time top scorer. He was brilliant at one point.
So you feel vindicated about Rooney struggling 4 years after you said he was crap. Doesn't make sense does it. How does that vindicate you?Pethaps the people who were shot down laughed at for arguing Rooney was finished years ago are now feeling vindicated, and are having a bit of a laugh at his expense to let their frustrations out.
It's marvellous.Still strange having no Rooney at Utd anymore.
Well yeah, the Rooney of the last few years isn't something you want, but I've only known United with Rooney in the team.It's marvellous.
Absolutely. It can never be said Mourinho didn't give him a chance.One thing for sure is that Mourinho handled the 'rooney problem' brilliantly. Ferguson would have dealt with it if he hadn't retired by selling him. Moyes didn't and actually gave him a grandiose status again. LVG couldn't deal with it. Mourinho at the beginning praised him but was clear where he thought his playing position was, played him at first, but slowly phased him out without insulting him and then quietly moved him to Everton with a sense of nostalgia....the boy kid returning home. Bloody brilliant handling.
Remember when Mourinho bid 25m + Mata + Luis for him. Moyes should have taken that but didn't have the bottle. That has been proven to value over £100m since.One thing for sure is that Mourinho handled the 'rooney problem' brilliantly. Ferguson would have dealt with it if he hadn't retired by selling him. Moyes didn't and actually gave him a grandiose status again. LVG couldn't deal with it. Mourinho at the beginning praised him but was clear where he thought his playing position was, played him at first, but slowly phased him out without insulting him and then quietly moved him to Everton with a sense of nostalgia....the boy kid returning home which didn't threaten Rooney's ego. Bloody brilliant handling.
tbh a lot of ppl knew and called it for a very long time, it wasn't really that hard to seeSAF knew he was declining in 2013. Feck me Fergie always knew better.
That's fair enough.Well yeah, the Rooney of the last few years isn't something you want, but I've only known United with Rooney in the team.
Wow hindsight is a bitch! I remember Chelsea bidding 25m for him back then but I don't remember them offering Mata + Luiz, that's fecking crazy we didn't take up that offer. He could have been Chelsea's problem for the last four years.Remember when Mourinho bid 25m + Mata + Luis for him. Moyes should have taken that but didn't have the bottle. That has been proven to value over £100m since.
It appeared that United leaked the swap details and Chelsea later denied it but given that both Mata and Luiz were sold within a year I am inclined to believe that to be true.Wow hindsight is a bitch! I remember Chelsea bidding 25m for him back then but I don't remember them offering Mata + Luiz, that's fecking crazy we didn't take up that offer. He could have been Chelsea's problem for the last four years.
i agree with this, don't know if you're joking but the sentiment is right imoWhen counting games for the 'he's played too many, of course he's burnt out' theory, you should probably deduct about 100 from Rooney's total considering his legs went ages ago.
SAF quitting was a painful milestone, in regards to Rooney there's somewhat a sense of liberation for me and probably many others. I'm quite interested in seeing how he'll do, but unless it turns super ugly for him I don't think observing this Everton transplant is going to sadden me.Well yeah, the Rooney of the last few years isn't something you want, but I've only known United with Rooney in the team.
I think he will continue as he has played lately for United, perhaps looking a bit sharper initially but not much difference. Rooney doesn't have anything left to offer, sadly.SAF quitting was a painful milestone, in regards to Rooney there's somewhat a sense of liberation for me and probably many others. I'm quite interested in seeing how he'll do, but unless it turns super ugly for him I don't think observing this Everton transplant is going to sadden me.
Pub quiz question. Do you know what types were Wayne's last 3 goals for United? One was scored from a penalty and 2 others were deflected strikes. It's almost too symbolic for this agonal phase of his career.
Not joking at all. You can't say his legs are gone because he's played ~750 games without acknowledging that he's been on a sharp decline for a while. I'd say his last decent season was Moyes'. He wasn't great by his standards, but he was one of the few players that came out of that season with any credit. In the 3 following seasons he's played around 130+ games. So he started to drop off at around 620 games.i agree with this, don't know if you're joking but the sentiment is right imo
the "he played too many games" is just another in a long arsenal of excuses for rooney
I think it's pent up frustration pouring out as hysterical relief. He's shit, but he's not our problem any more. Huzzah!It's not that people are criticizing him but from what I am reading, there seems to be some sort of pleasure for people in seeing Rooney fail miserably. I don't understand that mindset and it makes normal people like myself become Rooney defenders.
Need to put more context into stats. Rooney has been on decline for quite a while now. Which means many of the latter games he played, his contribution is not on same level while kept on playing for the sake of my captain is always play or crawling over the line for the scoring record... In short, he declined much sooner when other players are still going strong. Those players still have more to offer at higher level than Rooney now. So with context, Rooney indeed fall very short.37 more matches than Rooney in his career. Messi has played one game less than Rooney. Ibra has played 81 more matches than Rooney. Iniesta has 46 more matches than Rooney. Dani Alves has 49 more matches than Rooney. Buffon has 244 more matches than Rooney but he is a keeper so it is a bit different.
Yeah the goal v Stoke was stunning.I think he will continue as he has played lately for United, perhaps looking a bit sharper initially but not much difference. Rooney doesn't have anything left to offer, sadly.
Stoke goal was good though.
What's Usain Bolt got to do with Rooney?Usain Bolt is over the hill at 30 as well.
Rooney should start doping.Usain Bolt is over the hill at 30 as well.
worst clutching everUsain Bolt is over the hill at 30 as well.
Absolutely - you could see a clear decline in the Spring of Moyes' season with us. He went from one of the better players in the early part or the season after signing his new contract; to the poster boy for mediocrity by the time he was sacked (although of course not alone).Like someone said, the people touting the 'he played too many games' myth should take into account that Rooney went to shit like 3 years ago