How would you feel if Rooney smashed it at Everton?

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I remember that headline in the papers yes not sure if Fergie actually gave that interview or not.

I tend to take any newspaper articles with a massive pinch of salt when it come to things like this.

Something obviously happened and he may have asked to leave but my point is he didn't, and I never think he would have moved to City I think that rumour was bullshit.

The Chelsea rumours may have more truth but I don't think he would have ever specifically asked to play for them. Just a case of Chelsea trying to unsettle our player at the time.
So you believe Daniel Taylor made it up?
 

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Fergie definitely did give an interview saying he'd asked to leave.
If Rooney was 100% set on leaving I think Fergie would have made him leave there and then.

Just think there was a bit more to it than Rooney simply saying he wanted to leave.

He may have wanted to leave at that point anyway but then obviously decided to stay.

I didn't expect massive loyalty from Rooney when we signed him, he's gone far and beyond what anyone could expect from him surely? He wasn't an academy player, he's not from Manchester - what he's done for our club is surely outstanding.

No idea why any united fan wouldn't wish him anything but the best of luck.
 

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If Rooney was 100% set on leaving I think Fergie would have made him leave there and then.

Just think there was a bit more to it than Rooney simply saying he wanted to leave.

He may have wanted to leave at that point anyway but then obviously decided to stay.

I didn't expect massive loyalty from Rooney when we signed him, he's gone far and beyond what anyone could expect from him surely? He wasn't an academy player, he's not from Manchester - what he's done for our club is surely outstanding.

No idea why any united fan wouldn't wish him anything but the best of luck.
Because he publicly questioned our ambition.

Because he tried to join our rivals on more than one occasion (although obviously you refuse to believe that).

Because he never had any love for our club.

That about covers it for me. You are free to worship at the altar of Rooney, of course, but bear in mind that there are valid reasons why some of our fans aren't overly enamoured with him.
 

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Why do we care where he smashes it in the twilight of his career? He looked lost in the Europa League and I'm sure Koeman's aware that he won't be as good as he was.
 

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I don't the journalist made it up no.

I just think the reason why he came out with the quotes might not be black and white and whether he actually ever wanted to leave is up for discussion.
Our manager stated in a televised interview that he requested a transfer. I'm not sure what other evidence you require.
 

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Because he publicly questioned our ambition.

Because he tried to join our rivals on more than one occasion (although obviously you refuse to believe that).

Because he never had any love for our club.

That about covers it for me. You are free to worship at the altar of Rooney, of course, but bear in mind that there are valid reasons why some of our fans aren't overly enamoured with him.
I don't worship the altar of Rooney whatsoever, I recognise what he's done for our club and the focal part he played in probably our most successful period of our football club. It was no coincidence that Rooney was a part of this.

I prefer to remember his footballing talents. I don't feel massively betrayed that he thought about leaving (yet again I don't feel we all understand the intentions there, I don't believe for a second he wanted to join city)

I don't even particularly like the man. Hes had one or two off the field antics that I couldn't forgive. I think the attitude that if a player wants to leave he's demonised isn't correct. Again, plenty of our top players have moved on from our club and are still thought of in high regard.

If a player wants to leave Manchester United then I say good luck to them - it's their loss. I'm not arsed they'll find out themselves it's a step down. Thanks for the service Wayne I'll remember you fondly. Scored lots, and some great goals for us I will always have memories of that goal you scored against city and the like.
 

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I don't believe for a second he wanted to join city
This part I really don't get. You admit that he has no loyalty to us, no love for us. He was an employee, nothing more. Taking all of that into account, why wouldn't he consider joining City?

"Once a blue....."
 

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Our manager stated in a televised interview that he requested a transfer. I'm not sure what other evidence you require.
Was it ever an actual official transfer request or just Fergie mentioning it an interview?

Things are said in the heat of moment again I'm not sure what happens Behind the scenes all I can't go off it that he never left and went on to be our top scorer.
 
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Tomorrow would be a good time from him to smash a couple in. He has a good record against City.
 

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This part I really don't get. You admit that he has no loyalty to us, no love for us. He was an employee, nothing more. Taking all of that into account, why wouldn't he consider joining City?

"Once a blue....."
No, your generalising what I've said.

I firmly believe Rooney has loved this club before, also there is nothing to measure that he isn't loyal to use as he spent 10+ years at our club and gave his prime year to us which helped us to win many trophies.

I firmly believe he would never have gone to city and stand by that.

He's obviously more than an 'employee' in my eyes judging by the way I've defended him.

Everyone's entitled to have their own opinion of wayne don't get me wrong. I do get why people don't like him I just have my own opinion and I don't expect as much from him. He doesn't have any onligations towards united, I just thank him for his time here.

I know people get hung up about his pay packet but at one point in his united career he genuinely deserved to be our highest paid player - Wayne was an incredible player for us all things conserved throughout his united career (minus the last 2/3 years which I'll give him on credit for his incredible career)
 

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If you follow this thread I am hardly bragging but addressing how during preseason everyone was laughing at the fact that he wasn't fit during friendlies. Read a few pages back and Everton forum members were ridiculed for saying he'll get fit when the season starts.

The fact is he does look fit and sharp this season. That is all I am talking about so I don't know why you're bringing 3 years (and a ridiculous number since about 2 years ago he was one of our best players)
You mean 1 game?
 

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Because he publicly questioned our ambition.

Because he tried to join our rivals on more than one occasion (although obviously you refuse to believe that).

Because he never had any love for our club.

That about covers it for me. You are free to worship at the altar of Rooney, of course, but bear in mind that there are valid reasons why some of our fans aren't overly enamoured with him.
"Never" is simply not true
 

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Based on?
Are you telling me that he didn't love signing for the biggest club in england? That he didn't love playing for the greatest manager in the world? That he didn't love playing with world class players? That he didn't love winning trophies and personal accolades galore?

Of course he loved united and everything about it. Its mad to suggest that he never had any love for united
 

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Are you telling me that he didn't love signing for the biggest club in england? That he didn't love playing for the greatest manager in the world? That he didn't love playing with world class players? That he didn't love winning trophies and personal accolades galore?

Of course he loved united and everything about it. Its mad to suggest that he never had any love for united
I'm sure he enjoyed winning things and being paid a lot of money. That doesn't mean he loved the club.

The fact is, he was an Everton fan when he joined us, and he's an Everton fan now.
 

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I'm sure he enjoyed winning things and being paid a lot of money. That doesn't mean he loved the club.

The fact is, he was an Everton fan when he joined us, and he's an Everton fan now.
Does it really matter what he felt? The only thing that mattered was he was terrific for us. Obviously way more so at the start to middle than the end, but he was terrific.
Only severely bitter people can't recognise that.
 

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Does it really matter what he felt? The only thing that mattered was he was terrific for us. Obviously way more so at the start to middle than the end, but he was terrific.
Only severely bitter people can't recognise that.
Who said he wasn't?
 

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I'd be pleased for him, he played wholeheartedly for us and shouldn't be criticised for going back to his local club. Some things stay with a person from an early age, nowt wrong with that.
 

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What has actually been proved wrong though Shamans?
That it's not ridiculous to see players not play well preseason and then regain their fitness. Also those that suggested he's not even a PL level striker anymore.

You mean 1 game?
The whole argument was that he wasn't in shape for the season. He clearly is.
 

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You work towards getting in shape and then don't just lose it overnight. You don't agree he got himself ready for the season?
Weren't you the firm advocate of "rooney took a while to get going" brigade?

Based on the last 3 years he's not pl level anymore.

You based your opinion on 1 match he plays with everton.

And yet you're claiming you're right and everyone wrong with the basis of 1 game.

If he maintain this standard in 1 season I'll give it to him and you that we might be wrong. He's not finished at united, he just can't be arsed or motivated enough if it's everton.

Is that it?
 

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Wouldn't really feel anything. If it was for one of our rivals I'd be annoyed, but all the best to him at Everton, though I don't expect him to have a good season.
 

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I would feel very happy if he does very well at Everton. Our top scorer ever and 2nd best assister ever. Can't ask for more than that other for him to continue to make the most out of his career
 

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Will love to see him hurt our rivals. Would be devastated to see him hurt us.
 

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Wouldn't mind if he smashes it against City tonight. Though I doubt Everton stand a chance. I was going to bet on a City win but the odds are so low that it's hardly worth it (1.30).
 

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He's going to be a big liability for Everton tonight if he plays. You need workrate and discipline in the middle of the park against a team like City. Rooney's never had discipline, and his work-rate disappeared sometime around 2010.