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I read it and enjoyed it, but I was in hospital and read about 20 books in 2 weeks, so it was good in comparison to some absolute tripe.

It does get a bit better, but it doesn't really change
 

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Dropped Jonathan Strange and started the first book in the Bartimaeus series (The Amulet of Samarkand). Enjoying it so far.

More exciting chapters from Oathbringer.
 

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Nah I haven't posted any comments so far. My knowledge of Roshar isn't extensive enough to get into a discussion over there. Those lads bring up the Unmade and the Listeners and I keep thinking 'the feck are they talking about'! :lol:
 

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Finished The Nine Princes of Amber - #1 of The Chronicles of Amber.

I am finding the writing style too dated for my liking. Reading 'etcetera' in the middle of the passage where the main character is describing something is particularly jarring. The story seems pretty straight forward so far except for the Jason Bourne kind of start, which, I must confess, was what really interested me about the book. Started The Guns of Avalon (#2 in the series) but not sure if I will be able to complete it.
 

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I enjoyed the first volume in the Bartimaeus trilogy. Really different approach from the typical fantasy series. The story is told from a completely unexpected point of view, and with a lot of humor. Started the second volume.
 

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I have. The first book is amazing, the second one is decent and the final one is arguably the worst book I have ever read (and everyone who has read it hates it, its status in asoiaf forum is similar to Fellaini's status under Moyes here).

Either do not read it at all, or stop after the first one (it was meant to be a standalone either way, so it works by itself).
Read the first book and agree that it was a really good read. Got about midway through the second and gave up on it, as the quality had really dropped. Should have followed your advice!

Started on Luke Scull's Grimm Company trilogy instead, but again I am noticing I enjoyed the first book a lot more than the second.

Anyone read any of the following? I have added them all to my read list but not sure which to start with.

David Dalglish - Paladins Series
Adrian Selby - Snakewood
James Islington - The Licanius Trilogy
Jay Kristoff - Nevernight
Alex Marhsall - A Crown for Cold Silver
Ed McDonald - Blackwing
Angus Watson - Iron Age Series
 

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Iron Age is very good, I've read all of them.

I am reading A Crown for Cold Silver at the minute. It's.......odd. Set in a fantasy world yet the prose is reminiscent of shit you might see on an online forum at times. "That no good punk, ass kicked", that kind of thing. It hasn't really agreed with me and I'm finding it a bit of a slog. It's an interesting world he's built, though.
 

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Iron Age is very good, I've read all of them.

I am reading A Crown for Cold Silver at the minute. It's.......odd. Set in a fantasy world yet the prose is reminiscent of shit you might see on an online forum at times. "That no good punk, ass kicked", that kind of thing. It hasn't really agreed with me and I'm finding it a bit of a slog. It's an interesting world he's built, though.
Great, I'll start with Angus Watson then.

Is that actually a line from the book? If it is I think I may just skip ACfCS altogether. A bit petty maybe, but bad prose is such a turn off. I refuse to read any Brandon Sanderson because I read about 3 pages of one of his books once and just couldn't look past the terrible writing.
 

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Great, I'll start with Angus Watson then.

Is that actually a line from the book? If it is I think I may just skip ACfCS altogether. A bit petty maybe, but bad prose is such a turn off. I refuse to read any Brandon Sanderson because I read about 3 pages of one of his books once and just couldn't look past the terrible writing.
It isn't an actual line, but both appear in the book. I don't expect to see that kind of contemporary slang in a fantasy book. Not saying I demand the kind of flowery bollocks which is prevalent in Farseer, either. It's just a little jarring.
 

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It isn't an actual line, but both appear in the book. I don't expect to see that kind of contemporary slang in a fantasy book. Not saying I demand the kind of flowery bollocks which is prevalent in Farseer, either. It's just a little jarring.
Yeah it's a huge sin for me too and just causes a huge disconnect. Nothing takes you out of the book faster than a piece of jarring modern slang in a fantasy setting. It's so out of place and there's never any excuse for it.
 

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Great, I'll start with Angus Watson then.

Is that actually a line from the book? If it is I think I may just skip ACfCS altogether. A bit petty maybe, but bad prose is such a turn off. I refuse to read any Brandon Sanderson because I read about 3 pages of one of his books once and just couldn't look past the terrible writing.
Sandrson's writing post Wheel of Time is decent. Stormligh Archive has totally acceptable writing.
 

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Read the first book and agree that it was a really good read. Got about midway through the second and gave up on it, as the quality had really dropped. Should have followed your advice!

Started on Luke Scull's Grimm Company trilogy instead, but again I am noticing I enjoyed the first book a lot more than the second.

Anyone read any of the following? I have added them all to my read list but not sure which to start with.

David Dalglish - Paladins Series
Adrian Selby - Snakewood
James Islington - The Licanius Trilogy
Jay Kristoff - Nevernight
Alex Marhsall - A Crown for Cold Silver
Ed McDonald - Blackwing
Angus Watson - Iron Age Series
I'm just over halfway through the first Nevernight book. It has a really interesting setting and has been quite enjoyable so far. Only issues I have are the slightly generic league of assassins, although they do have interesting elements, and the tendency to feel a bit....young adult, at times. It's hard to describe, it's almost Abercrombie-lite for much of it and is usually very adult orientated. It just goes a bit too far into the direction of teenage power fantasy at times. It's quite good in spite of that though and I'm quite enjoying it.
 

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Sandrson's writing post Wheel of Time is decent. Stormligh Archive has totally acceptable writing.
I can't remember which book I read tbh. I think it may have been the first in the Mistborn series. I'm not exactly a prose snob (David Gemmell is still one of my favourite authors) but the first pages of the book I read were enough to put me off for life.
 

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I can't remember which book I read tbh. I think it may have been the first in the Mistborn series. I'm not exactly a prose snob (David Gemmell is still one of my favourite authors) but the first pages of the book I read were enough to put me off for life.
Mistborn has bad writing, but really awesome story. Elantris and especially Warbreaker's writing is like the writing of that kid on the sixth class who was writing a book and thought that he's doing a good job on it, but actually it was so bad that it wasn't even funny. Warbreaker in particular is 'The Room' of fantasy books.

Saying that, would suggest you to give Stormlight a go. It is really awesome and the writing is - at the very least - in a competent level.
 

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Well, I just finished the Wheel of Time series for the first time. Absolutely loved it throughout, think it's probably my favourite series of books. Proper commitment to read them all like, but really worth it. Although now I'm kind of like 'shit, what do I do now?' :lol:
 

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Well, I just finished the Wheel of Time series for the first time. Absolutely loved it throughout, think it's probably my favourite series of books. Proper commitment to read them all like, but really worth it. Although now I'm kind of like 'shit, what do I do now?' :lol:
Wait a bit and digest the material. Definitely try to avoid something similar for some time, because it won't compare well with it (Stormlight Archive is the closest thing we have to Wheel of Time).

I would say go for something totally different next. Something like The First Law or The Black Company.
 

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Wait a bit and digest the material. Definitely try to avoid something similar for some time, because it won't compare well with it (Stormlight Archive is the closest thing we have to Wheel of Time).

I would say go for something totally different next. Something like The First Law or The Black Company.
Are those two similar?
 

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Are those two similar?
The Black company is written in annal form and recounts the journey of a mercenary company. The POV changes from book to book and the characters all recount history quite differently. It doesn't have the humour or gore factor that The First Law does, but it's certainly dark.
 

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The Black company is written in annal form and recounts the journey of a mercenary company. The POV changes from book to book and the characters all recount history quite differently. It doesn't have the humour or gore factor that The First Law does, but it's certainly dark.
I read a little about it. One criticism that stuck with me was the supposed tendency to skip over large events. For example, say there is a large build up to a battle. The actual battle itself might be dealt with in a line or two.

Not having read it I can't say if that is accurate or not.
 

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I read a little about it. One criticism that stuck with me was the supposed tendency to skip over large events. For example, say there is a large build up to a battle. The actual battle itself might be dealt with in a line or two.

Not having read it I can't say if that is accurate or not.
That can be the case on occasion with Cook, but it's very much in keeping with the style of the book. The POV will write about what interests them most. Sometimes when the POV character changes to another in a new book they might recount it in a little more detail.
 

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Wait a bit and digest the material. Definitely try to avoid something similar for some time, because it won't compare well with it (Stormlight Archive is the closest thing we have to Wheel of Time).

I would say go for something totally different next. Something like The First Law or The Black Company.
Yeah I'm just gonna reflect on it a bit for a while I think to start with, there's such a lot to digest!

Thanks for the recommendations though, always looking for more stuff in a kind of similar vein.
 

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So I took up one of the recommendations I got in this thread (after I read The First Law and the Rothfuss books): The Gentlemen Bastards.... I thought it was a trilogy. Turns out the guy has written three books and is expected to write another four!!! So F that. What next? I still think The First Law is my favourite fantasy series to date.
 

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The Black company is written in annal form and recounts the journey of a mercenary company. The POV changes from book to book and the characters all recount history quite differently. It doesn't have the humour or gore factor that The First Law does, but it's certainly dark.
Black Company is the series which pretty much created the grimdark fantasy subgenre, but it is very different to Abercrombie. In fact, it is very different to anything bar Malazan (and I would say that Black Company is much better than it). Still, there are some similarities, and both are quite realist and very non predictable. Much more real word-ish than LotR and its clones.
I read a little about it. One criticism that stuck with me was the supposed tendency to skip over large events. For example, say there is a large build up to a battle. The actual battle itself might be dealt with in a line or two.

Not having read it I can't say if that is accurate or not.
It is quite accurate. The first book is definitely problematic cause for half of it, you don't have any idea what is going. But it is quite great.
 

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So I took up one of the recommendations I got in this thread (after I read The First Law and the Rothfuss books): The Gentlemen Bastards.... I thought it was a trilogy. Turns out the guy has written three books and is expected to write another four!!! So F that. What next? I still think The First Law is my favourite fantasy series to date.
If you liked Gentlman Bastards you should check out Among Thieves by Douglas Hulick. They're a similar vein, but there are only two books.
 

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The Black company is written in annal form and recounts the journey of a mercenary company. The POV changes from book to book and the characters all recount history quite differently. It doesn't have the humour or gore factor that The First Law does, but it's certainly dark.
This is a fair reflection of the series, but the second sentence isn't entirely accurate. While there are a few changes of Company Analyst (and narrator) over the 40-year annals of the company recounted to us, the changes are not quite as drastic as appears from the above quote. The series covers 10 books, and are told from the POV of the following annalists:

The Black Company (1984) - Croaker
Shadows Linger (1984) - Croaker
The White Rose (1985) - Croaker
The Silver Spike (1989) - 3rd person narrative (not strictly a Black Company book, but concludes the events recounted in The White Rose)
Shadow Games (1989) - Croaker
Dreams of Steel (1990) - Lady
Bleak Seasons (1996) - Murgen
She is the Darkness (1997) - Murgen
Water Sleeps (1999) - Sleepy
Soldiers Live (2000) - Croaker
 

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Talking about The Black Company, I would also recommend another Glen Cook series, Garrett P.I. I just completed the 14-book series, and I really liked it. It is very different from most other fantasy series. Here's the Wiki summary:

Garrett P.I. is a series of books by the author Glen Cook about Garrett, a freelance private investigator. The novels are written in a film noir-esque style, containing elements of traditional mystery and detective fiction, as well as plenty of dialogue-based humor. The Garrett P.I. novels are set in a fantasy universe; the protagonist Garrett, during his adventures throughout his home city of TunFaire and across Karenta and the Cantard, meets elves, vampires, centaurs, trolls, gods, wizards, witches and more. Unlike most fantasy series, the Garrett P.I. novels focus more on the detective aspects of the story and less on the fantastic and magical aspects.
 

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Any further planned or is the story wrapped up in two?
There was always intended to be a third book, unfortunately the author never finished it. He explains why here
But TL;DR version is that the pressure of writing for a fanbase and a deadline lead to serious anxiety and depression.

It's a shame because by all accounts he's a really nice guy and I do like his writing. He has potential. There's always that hope he'll write the third, and tbf he didn't completely rule it out.

I'd say check out his two existing books anyway, if you're a fan of Scott Lynch. Or if you're just looking for something a little different from the usual mercs, heroic battles and great adventures within the fantasy genre.
 

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Ok. This is a massive long shot but I read a fantasy book (maybe series) years ago and I have no idea what it's called or the name of the author or any of the characters. All I can remember is that it was about a young (magic?)girl, who is maybe part of a prophecy, gets saved by a man (maybe with a magic dagger) who I think couldn't die, there was definitely a group of travelers on an epic journey, a wyvern and a lute that played a magic song.

Anyone any ideas what this might be?
 

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Yeah it's a huge sin for me too and just causes a huge disconnect. Nothing takes you out of the book faster than a piece of jarring modern slang in a fantasy setting. It's so out of place and there's never any excuse for it.
Okay, I'm quitting A Crown For Cold Silver. The tipping point was "hanging out in this freezing river wasn't doing his feet any favours" closely followed by "he was just glad he didn't have to throw down with her".

Get the f*ck out of here with that bullshit.
 

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Just finished Luke Scull's Grim Company. First book was great, all went a bit downhill midway through the second though IMO. Third book was the weakest of the lot and the ending felt more Hollywood than epic. Quick question-

Am I missing something with regards to The Wolf? I'm not talking about him being gay, but rather him being some mythical being? The book hinted at it when he killed Sevarian right at the end, were there other hints I missed that point to him being more than just a man? Does he have some secret identity that I was too dim to put together?