Jose Mourinho admits he is powerless to stop Marouane Fellaini leaving Manchester United

[In Rainbows]

That’s probably right as I read that on a Lingard news story which would have been earlier this year. So Dybala has just recently signed a new contract has he? Still 135k a week. One of the best talents on the planet makes only 35k more than Lingard and Felli wants 170k. Erickson is on 70k deli on 60k Harry Kane is on 100k. Just insane some of the wages we pay.

Edit: just checked he signed a new deal in April at 113k a week.

That's why I'll never understand how some posters defend those wages by saying it's not our money so don't worry about it. As if money is just endless and that it can't affect our transfer business. There's no reason to give wages that high for squad players.

 

[suhaylah]

United are offering him a 2 year contract apparently and Fellaini think it's too short length

 

[Suedesi]

Why is Jose worried about losing Fellaini? Is Fellaini a world class player that will make the difference when United play Madrid, Munchen, Barcelona or PSG? Has Jose completely lost it?

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Fair play to Fellaini for having the balls to overcome his torrid start here, that deserves respect.
But as @Robbie Boy says, after nearly 5 years my general feeling is simply ”oh well, cheerio”.

 

[Raees]

It is naive to think that we play hoof ball just because Fellaini is in the squad, as if we didn't when he was injured. If it takes a squad player leaving for us to improve, then something is wrong.

Agree with you but it's the first step towards removing that sort of player who wouldn't really be found at a top club. I hope to see more departures of that ilk.

 

[LoneStar]

I like him. He always fights for the shirt as opposed to many cowards we have in our team. But he's crazy to think he can get 170k a week.

As long as we buy a more exciting midfielder to replace him, I wouldn't mind it if he left. It might force Jose to rethink the hoofball strategy in the big games.

As for the deadwood argument, there are far worse players than him that need to be moved on before. Fellaini truly offers something unique to the team. The likes of Shaw, Darmian and many others need to be sold this summer.

 

[Mastadon]

It’s incredible how he’s gone from a joke signing to a Key player for you lot under Mourinho. All because he allows Mourinho to set up a team that doesn’t need to play football and can just hoof it up front bypassing the midfield. Perfect Mourinho at Utd park the bus player.

 

[haram]

I want him to stay. 170k is too much though.

 

[Sansa Stark]

It's time to develop young talent, Fellaini is in his 30 tho

 

[Ecstatic]

I think some of you miss the whole picture.

The club and his coach do need to renew his contract so that the club would be in a position to sell him later, say 15-25 millions next year.

Fellaini renews his contract: player in the squad + option to sell him in the future >>> You don't spend money this summer to replace him and can earn money 15-25 later. Fellaini is a decent squad player after all.
Fellaini doesn't renew: you have to acquire a new player this summer to replace him at a high price because you're United >>> You will spend 20-30m to have the equivalent of Fellaini (i.e. a squad player) this summer

Last but not least, Fellaini will play a lot this season to feel the 'confidence' of the club and consequently to be more inclined to renew his contract... Mourinho is asked to consider him to help the club renewing his contract.

From the club standpoint, Fellaini has to be viewed as an ASSET and the club just wants to maximize the return on his investment.

Mourinho also has his own agenda

- Fellaini renews his contract: Mou would be in a position to spend X millions for 4 players next summer for example
- Fellaini doesn't renew: Mou would have to spend the same amount of money X millions for 5 players then, which would make his plans more challenging

Last but not least, Mou knows Fellaini: so if the latter is on the bench, Fellaini won't be a burden within the squad and the situation will be "under control" from a managerial standpoint too.

Of course, it doesn't make sense to offer him a VERY crazy salary package.

 

[Josep Dowling]

The guy has no room for negotiation in my opinion as he simply isn’t good enough to get the quoted salary. He’s an above average player at best and soon turning 30.

Can he get £170k anywhere else? Can he even get over £100k anywhere else?

I for one will be happy to see him leave.

 

[haram]

The guy has no room for negotiation in my opinion as he simply isn’t good enough to get the quoted salary. He’s an above average player at best and soon turning 30.

Can he get £170k anywhere else? Can he even get over £100k anywhere else?

I for one will be happy to see him leave.

I think he will get a signing on fee elsewhere though.

 

[snk123]

Fellaini is very useful when we're a goal down and need to hoof the ball in the last 10 minutes. The problem is that's our only Plan B and we start playing hoofball with Fellani 45 minutes in.
I hope we get this sorted - a player who consistently scores critical goals contrary to what others with short memories might say

 

[snk123]

Can he get £170k anywhere else? Can he even get over £100k anywhere else?

Yes. Jese Fecking Lingard is on 100K. Young is more than 100K. Fellani should get 150K based on his performances and the amount of times he's saved United with vital goals.

 

[SachinJ22]

#saynotomegathreads

From the Independant -

It's good that he is powerless to stop him from leaving.

 

[prath92]

The guy has no room for negotiation in my opinion as he simply isn’t good enough to get the quoted salary. He’s an above average player at best and soon turning 30.

Can he get £170k anywhere else? Can he even get over £100k anywhere else?

I for one will be happy to see him leave.

If he is actually asking for 170k (which I doubt), then it’s because he has an offer elsewhere. That’s negotiation 101.

 

[prath92]

If he leaves, then we will have to allocate a portion of our budget to replace him too. We would have to replace him and carrick instead of just carrick.

 

[iKeano]

Cannot wait until him and his ill-fitting New Balance are long gone.
By far the worst player that will reach 100 league appearances for Utd.

Suing his boot company... “a bad workman blames his tools”.

He’s not good in the air either, less than 50% aerial duel win percent in all PL games.

Lock that door behind him José and replace him with someone that can play the game.

 

[Josep Dowling]

Yes. Jese Fecking Lingard is on 100K. Young is more than 100K. Fellani should get 150K based on his performances and the amount of times he's saved United with vital goals.

So based on average players earning x amount you think Fellaini should earn more? None of those players should be earning that money and that is one of the issues with the club right now.

The only reason I would try to keep Fellaini is for his transfer value but the simple truth is that his inflated salary will mean we won’t be able to get rid of him once he signed the contract. This is the exact issue with Young and Lingard.

These players aren’t good enough for the squad and for once the board should make a decision not based on money but how it will improve the team on the pitch.

 

[Josep Dowling]

I hope we get this sorted - a player who consistently scores critical goals contrary to what others with short memories might say

Please quote me what critical goals he has scored?

 

[Ecstatic]

The guy has no room for negotiation in my opinion as he simply isn’t good enough to get the quoted salary. He’s an above average player at best and soon turning 30.

Can he get £170k anywhere else? Can he even get over £100k anywhere else?

I for one will be happy to see him leave.

If a club wants the equivalent of Fellaini on the market, it would have to pay between 15-25 millions. Fellaini is a free agent next summer so he's in a position to ask for a high salary or a signing bonus.

I'm not a fan of the player but the market take into account some factors: some credentials in the Premier League, will play the next WC...

It's a WIN-LOSE situation between net spending and total payroll.

 

[Josep Dowling]

If a club wants the equivalent of Fellaini on the market, it would have to pay between 15-25 millions. Fellaini is a free agent next summer so he's in a position to ask for a high salary or a signing bonus.

I'm not a fan of the player but the market take into account some factors: some credentials in the Premier League, will play the next WC...

It's a WIN-LOSE situation between net spending and total payroll.

Yes I understand from the boards perspective he has value. But as I have previously said if he signed the new contract we will never be able to sell him because of his inflated wages.

Therefore we will end up with a player being paid over £150k as a squad player and isn’t good enough to make us take the next step of winning the league.

This has happened previously when we wanted to get rid of the likes of Nani. And why we never get value when we sell players because their wages are too high.

Therefore I would rather get rid now, especially if he is stalling negotiations. We have too many number 10s in the squad anyway.

 

[AXVnee7]

I wouldn't be torn up about it if he did leave, but surprisingly to replace him would actually prove a bit of a task and players like him are not quite as common as you'd think. I've often referred to Fellaini as a 'tactic' rather than a skilled player, because that's how I feel he's used here. We play him when we want to play a specific way or are looking for certain attributes, and if we don't wish to play that way then he's useless. A far cry from a Pogba for example who has a highly advanced skillset in all areas.

However we don't need to replace him like-for-like. If he leaves, as far as I'm concerned it leaves the door open for players such as Pereira and TFM. The answer doesn't always have to come from the transfer market. Sure neither of those are what Fellaini is, but both are better footballing-wise.

 

[tony54]

I'm a fan of Fellaini , apart from his elbows, and will miss him as I think he is easily in the top echelon of the team and provides much need physical strength to the team. I think he will command a good price and wish him luck and no doubt he will be more loved than he has been here.

 

[Ecstatic]

Yes I understand from the boards perspective he has value. But as I have previously said if he signed the new contract we will never be able to sell him because of his inflated wages.

Therefore we will end up with a player being paid over £150k as a squad player and isn’t good enough to make us take the next step of winning the league.

This has happened previously when we wanted to get rid of the likes of Nani. And why we never get value when we sell players because their wages are too high.

Therefore I would rather get rid now, especially if he is stalling negotiations. We have too many number 10s in the squad anyway.

I'm of those who think quality should always prevail over quantity so let him go and focus your money on super stars.

If he renews his contract and gets crazy wages, the risk is high to make him a sporting and financial burden

Ben Arfa never plays for PSG and doesn't want to leave the club because nobody is likely to offer him a similar salary package. His last game with PSG was a year ago I think. End of the contract next summer. so he won't try to move next winter even if he knows the clubs wants him to go.

 

[Garethw]

If this is the reason he's off and the story that the board refused to pay the asking fee for Perisic is correct then I'm happy that the club has started taking these decisions.

Me too mate.

 

[wolvored]

If its true hes after a lengthy contract and £170 grand a week, call his bluff. Who else will pay him that kind of money? If there is a club willing to then let him go. Its him that causes us to play long hit and hope ball a lot of the time especially second half, and we need to be more skillful than that.

 

[Siorac]

It's a little bit worrying that Mourinho looks so desperate to keep Fellaini of all players...

I think some of you miss the whole picture.

The club and his coach do need to renew his contract so that the club would be in a position to sell him later, say 15-25 millions next year.

Fellaini renews his contract: player in the squad + option to sell him in the future >>> You don't spend money this summer to replace him and can earn money 15-25 later. Fellaini is a decent squad player after all.
Fellaini doesn't renew: you have to acquire a new player this summer to replace him at a high price because you're United >>> You will spend 20-30m to have the equivalent of Fellaini (i.e. a squad player) this summer

Last but not least, Fellaini will play a lot this season to feel the 'confidence' of the club and consequently to be more inclined to renew his contract... Mourinho is asked to consider him to help the club renewing his contract.

From the club standpoint, Fellaini has to be viewed as an ASSET and the club just wants to maximize the return on his investment.

Mourinho also has his own agenda

- Fellaini renews his contract: Mou would be in a position to spend X millions for 4 players next summer for example
- Fellaini doesn't renew: Mou would have to spend the same amount of money X millions for 5 players then, which would make his plans more challenging

Last but not least, Mou knows Fellaini: so if the latter is on the bench, Fellaini won't be a burden within the squad and the situation will be "under control" from a managerial standpoint too.

Of course, it doesn't make sense to offer him a VERY crazy salary package.

All that assumes that we would be able to sell a player on the wrong side of 30 after signing a bumper new contract. The far more realistic scenario is that we wouldn't be able to get rid of him until his contract is up (or we just decide to let him go for free) because no club would pay a transfer fee AND meet his salary demands. Also, if he gets a new contract he might not want to leave at all and simply refuse offers anyway.

 

[wolvored]

I think some of you miss the whole picture.

The club and his coach do need to renew his contract so that the club would be in a position to sell him later, say 15-25 millions next year.

Fellaini renews his contract: player in the squad + option to sell him in the future >>> You don't spend money this summer to replace him and can earn money 15-25 later. Fellaini is a decent squad player after all.
Fellaini doesn't renew: you have to acquire a new player this summer to replace him at a high price because you're United >>> You will spend 20-30m to have the equivalent of Fellaini (i.e. a squad player) this summer

Last but not least, Fellaini will play a lot this season to feel the 'confidence' of the club and consequently to be more inclined to renew his contract... Mourinho is asked to consider him to help the club renewing his contract.

From the club standpoint, Fellaini has to be viewed as an ASSET and the club just wants to maximize the return on his investment.

Mourinho also has his own agenda

- Fellaini renews his contract: Mou would be in a position to spend X millions for 4 players next summer for example
- Fellaini doesn't renew: Mou would have to spend the same amount of money X millions for 5 players then, which would make his plans more challenging

Last but not least, Mou knows Fellaini: so if the latter is on the bench, Fellaini won't be a burden within the squad and the situation will be "under control" from a managerial standpoint too.

Of course, it doesn't make sense to offer him a VERY crazy salary package.

Your only saying this because the press reckons PSG are after him and you dont want him lol Said in jest

 

[el3mel]

Will be happy for him to stay but if he wants to leave good luck for him. He can leave with his head up as he gave us 100% of what he can and was a good servant for us despite being continuously slaughtered by fans.

However him leaving isn't the end of the world and we'll do fine to replace him. He's at his 30 and we would have been forced to replace him sooner or later anyway.

 

[deafepl]

Barca has just renewed Lionel Messi's contract and we are struggling to renew a useless sack of dogshite, in Fellaini's. Levels.

 

[Cristiano Lell]

Barca has just renewed Lionel Messi's contract and we are struggling to renew a useless sack of dogshite, in Fellaini's. Levels.

Not a good comparison. I'm sure Fellaini would stay if you offered him what Barca are paying Messi.

 

[deafepl]

Not a good comparison. I'm sure Fellaini would stay if you offered him what Barca are paying Messi.

Fellaini is one of the best players on the earth and could have won a couple of Ballon D'or if FIFA wasn't corrupt. it's mad how we are struggling to renew.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

Look, I like Fellaini.
But MUFC should not be 'battling' to keep a player like him. Imagine SAF 'battling' to keep say, Park, at the club. Would never have happened and speaks volumes of where we are a club at the moment.

 

[Cristiano Lell]

Fellaini is one of the best players on the earth and could have won a couple of Ballon D'or if FIFA wasn't corrupt. it's mad how we are struggling to renew.

inb4 Fellaini renews and Moyes' West Ham pay the 700m € release clause

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

Our squad management is a bit poor in general. We don't get much for the players we sell and overpay for the ones we buy a lot of the time.

Will not miss Fellaini very much, but we will lack numbers. Although I hope we don't waste millions on more squad players. We need to get in some top level quality winger in my view to compete with the best. Hopefully we can get more young players stepping up as squad players. They give me the hope. More to follow Rashford hopefully.

 

[Home&Away]

PSG won't pay the 15mil for fellaini - it will be seen as a step backwards from spending the money on neymar & mbappe; so José is encouraging a free transfer to PSG because the guy is going there too. Simple.

 

[Banat]

Really hope it's true and we get rid asap, in january if possible, while we can get something for him.

 

[Siorac]

PSG won't pay the 15mil for fellaini - it will be seen as a step backwards from spending the money on neymar & mbappe; so José is encouraging a free transfer to PSG because the guy is going there too. Simple.

Why would PSG want Fellaini? I'm sure there have been stranger transfers in the history of football than that one - but not many...

 

[SachinJ22]

Fellaini doesn't renew: you have to acquire a new player this summer to replace him at a high price because you're United >>> You will spend 20-30m to have the equivalent of Fellaini (i.e. a squad player) this summer

Tuanzebe or Fosu Mensah can take his spot if he leaves and Fosu Mensah is almost the same height as him.