Ah well, nobody ever said that Ireland was free of ignorant people. Thankfully those who have leaver leanings comprise so small a number as to be utterly irrelevant politically.
Also, "Eirexit" looks neater than "Irexit" to me.
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Also, "Eirexit" looks neater than "Irexit" to me.
https://www.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/south-yorkshire/woodhouse/mauncer-lane/
Check out the first house in random Yorkshire town. 18k in 1997 -105500 in 2007! Granted it could have been modernised and extended a bit but there was insane appreciation in the Blair era. I remember in my early working life looking at a terrace for £20k, probably in the year 2000 or so, you would be looking at £80k for that house now. And that is with low growth since 2007. Wish I would have bought one back then.
I find it suffocating.
Does my head in that I didn't back then. So many opportunities missed.
My reasoning was I was too young to get a mortgage - doh! My parents considered buying a run down flat in Chelsea in the early 90s for about £150k but decided it was too far from Manchester to take on. Now that was a miss!
Mine had the same idea! It was back when I was at uni and they were talking about buying on to let out to students. Don't know if it Chelsea, but it was London near one of the universities.
*edit* Thinking about it, considering I was at Portsmouth Uni at the time, them looking at flats in London was a bit of a dick move..
Unless they have the same opinion as me
Okay but I don't think that works when it comes to things like Brexit or Trump. Deciding to order a pizza isn't an equally intelligent choice for a night in as putting your head in a gas oven. At some point we have to recognise that not every choice is equally valid.
If someone genuinely believed that we could leave the EU and quickly get access to all the same benefits, not pay a penny and quickly conclude more beneficial free-trade deals with other nations, then I don't think I'm unreasonable in thinking that person to be a feckcumber. Equally someone who looked at Trump and said "That's the man for me" - I struggle with the idea that their stupidity should be written off as a mere difference of opinion that commands respect.
Biggest problem with discourse over the years has been people afraid to call out shit for what it is. In my opinion it's what UKIP owes a lot of its modern day influence and success on. Everyone treading on egg shells to respond to racism with: 'I respectfully disagree, but defend your right to an opinion and to be on every fecking media outlet expressing it, often unopposed'.
If you think I'm a moron for my political views then fine. Let's argue. But at what point do we actually acknowledge that someone voting for pixie dust (because the pixies need us more than we need them) is at best naive?
I dont think you are a moron for your views, i leave the name calling to remainers.
Trump or Clinton, tuff choice, i hate both but glad yanks vote to fukk the same old out. Hopefully he wont increase the poverty that obama did.
You know it's nonsense when an 'Irishman' is thanking the brits.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Poverty initially rose sharply after the financial crisis, but then fell year on year under Obama.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/200463/us-poverty-rate-since-1990/
Looking at his policies so far and the tax plan they've just passed, do you think they'll have a similar record when it comes to poverty by the end of their tenures? Even ignoring the fact that Obama came in post an economic crash?
Wait and see I guess. One of the managers I work with was in San Francisco last year and compared it to Johannesburg, where he comes from. So any improvement on that would be a plus.
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That shifts the border to the ports then, the unionists won't be very happy.
The unionists already said they'd vote against that. Although if its not being voted on until just before the exit, it might not matter.
So NI will have to mirror EU regs in order to maintain a soft border?
Looks like we are finally getting to a UK position that allows the EU to move forward. Better late than never, my hopes for an acceptable deal (for both sides) haven't been this high in months.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is this likely to mean for May's government? Surely under these terms the DUP will pull out as threatened and she'll lose her majority?
Pretty good news that, but i'll only believe it when I see the receipts. I expect the DUP will kick up a stink
I'm splitting into two the points to avoid long posts
People who believe obvious lies and vote for self-destruction are stupid in my book , it's a generalisation .
You have a short memory.
My guess is that it will back tracked on once the DUP start kicking up a fuss.
I can't see this going smoothlh
It really does feel like Mays goverment has no say on policy at the moment. They'r going whichever way the wind blows
I'm sure May will find them a sum of money from the Magic Money tree to make them change their mind.
It really does feel like Mays goverment has no say on policy at the moment. They'r going whichever way the wind blows
I wonder what price exactly the most ardent Brexiteers are willing to pay in order to leave the EU.
My question too.
Apparently will be more clear by the end of the day (where everyone stands etc).
I said they are similar but are not exactly the same, imo they are a cross between Cabinet minsters and Senior Civil Servants.
appointment is proposed by the 28 different states.
The President of the Commission is nominated by the European Council (the 28 Heads of States) and elected by the European Parliament for a 5 year term.
The Commissioners also have a 5 year term, their appointment is made in consultation with the 28 states and the president .
Again the EU Parliament has to approve appointment of the Commissioners.
The EU Parliament is elected by EU citizens.
The Commission propose laws, the EU Council and the Parliament approve them
A Civil Servant whether Senior or not is not elected by anyone.
A UK Cabinet Minister is only elected as an MP by their constituents, taking Davis as an example 31355 people voted for him out of 65million.
None of them voted for him to a be a minister. The PM appointed him as a minister, was his appointment approved by anyone else and more so did the UK parliament approve?
Question: is it possible for the House of Lords to block legislation?
Which system is more democratic?
I think your problem is that you follow Farage too closely, gravy-train, unelected bureaucrats are straight out a Farage speech.
As his average appearance record at the EU is something like 7 times a year, he probably doesn't have a very good grasp on how the EU works and missed the times when the EU parliament voted.
As for unelected he has never actually won an individual parliamentary election.
I just checked and the deal between the Tories and DUP does include a DUP agreement to vote with the government on "Legislation pertaining to the UK's exit from the European Union". So if the DUP won't agree to this new proposal then yeah they'll probably have to choose between torpedoing the government and having to face the likelihood of a Labour government, or biting their tongues and dealing with it. My guess will be the former.
You cant put a price on freedom
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Can I just point something out.
If NI stays within EU regulations and the mainland does not, that means a company based in Manchester will have tariffs on its exports to the EU, while a competitor in Belfast would not, as part of government ruling.
That would be challenged in court, and i suspect, is illegal.
If NI stays within EU regulations and the mainland does not, that means a company based in Manchester will have tariffs on its exports to the EU, while a competitor in Belfast would not, as part of government ruling.
That would be challenged in court, and i suspect, is illegal.
The obvious solution is for the mainland to scrap article 50 and remain in the single market.
Can London and the South East also get this alignment thing? Please?
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Rate vs Actual numbers
"And even though the rate of poverty went down under Obama, the number of people in poverty rose — just not as fast as the population in general. In 2016, just over 40.6 million Americans were still living below the poverty line, an increase of 787,000 people compared with 2008. Under George W. Bush, the number went up by more than 8 million, after going down by more than 6 million under Clinton"
So it fell in real terms then. If the rate increase slower than the population increased, then that's a fall realistically.
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shamblesReminder that NI voted to remain
Country being held to ransom by nutters funded by Theresa May
What a mess..