Mourinho's comments on Scholes

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I have no issue with any of this. Scholes in his criticism of Pogba sounded like a fan speaking his mind and to be honest he had a point. Jose’s response today was justified and he usually will defend his player by all means which is no bad characteristic to have. Hopefully a small part of Pogba was going out trying to prove a point today. If that was the case then everything has had the desired effect
 

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Yep, we saw this story when van Gaal was in charge. They want Giggs in there so they can join him and run the club. Thankfully, Woodward has more sense than that.
I certainly can see the politics and it's disruptive as hell. You want those players who profess to love the club to give constructive criticism and not pile on when they smell blood. However, Jose really needs to be careful and leave them to it, and just concentrate on what he needs to do.
 

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I’ve always been pro Jose but there’s no way he can take on Scholes and win. Should’ve known better. Maybe wind it in a bit Mou?
Of course he can. Scholes isn’t directly involved with the Club anymore and merely sits in a studio talking negative about United. I’ve no problem with Jose firing a few shots as these guys like to circle when there’s any sniff of a rough patch.
 

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The fact people don't want to admit this is true is embarrassing. It's so obvious, and we've seen it all before.

Wasn't Scholes moaning last week he wasn't asked for the reserve position?

There is certainly an agenda here from Scholes,Neville and co . They won't be happy until they are running the club
 

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How so? We played a formation and put players where many have asked for.. but only because of injury. No way would with a full squad we see Pogba at LAM in a three or Martial as a 9.

Once everyone is fit again we will go back to same old and look disjointed yet again. He' a stubborn mule
We could have easily started with 4-2-3-1 today.
 

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Completely agree with Jose. Scholes was one of my favorite players but only really opens his mouth when shit's down these days.
In fairness to Scholes he has had to watch nothing but shit since he became a pundit. He expects the high standards that he was a part of. He is paid to be a pundit not a cheerleader. That said Jose picking needless fights as usual. Pathetic.
 

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I stand by what Jose has said, I'm pleased to hear it actually. But also happy for Scholes to say what he likes too too. I don't think you have to be for one and against the other.
 

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The manager is entitled to defend himself and his players from criticism.
 

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The fact people don't want to admit this is true is embarrassing. It's so obvious, and we've seen it all before.
I don't know that it's that people don't want to admit that it's true, but it feels pointless to talk about. At this point, bringing in the class of '92 would be such a ridiculous gamble that it's not really within the realm of possibility. There's no doubt they're still trying to position themselves as an option but I doubt anyone in executive management agrees.
 

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"Scholes will be in history as a phenomenal player - not as a pundit.

"If one day Paul decides to become a manager I wish that he can be 25% as successful as myself."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/he-doesnt-comment-criticises-jose-11782479

Thought this outburst was pathetic from Mourinho, calling out a United legend for having a point of view.

Sounds very arrogant and petty. What was he thinking really.
He protected his player and took a jab at Scholes and co.. big deal. Scholes, Gary, giggs can’t just rest on their laurels as players and sit back and constantly criticize. Sometimes it’s deserved, but they open their mouths too much. Some of you would let giggs, Scholes and co come and defile your mum just because he played well for United in the past. They’re not untouchable.
 

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The over reaction to everything in football these days is so tiresome.

Mourinho calls out his players...pundits and ex players say he shouldn't do that.
Mourinho defends his player against the media and he is being petty.

It never ends!
 

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Scholes was bang on about Pogba. Jose is a tit. That performance was in spite of him rather than because of him.
Are you out of your mind? He lost the ball unnecessarily a few times but almost all of our good play in the second half came through him. He want brilliant in the attacking third today.

(Apologies ahead of time if your comment about the performance was in reference to Mou and not Pogba)
 

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Jose is right. All these ex-reds talk a lot of shite, and Scholes is amongst the worst I have found. He has improved his punditry a bit, but generally, he’s not a very good one.
 

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Did you even watch what Scholes said about Pogba? He didn't shit on Pogba, all he spoke about was how talented Paul is and that he would prefer Pogba to enjoy a more attacking role and play with more freedom.

No way does Jose have a right or need to say anything about Scholes. It was constructive advice and not even criticism.

People on here would swear at their mum if Jose convinced them with some bullshit.
Yes I did see what Scholes said about Pogba recently and in the past. I just find that some of the nonsense he and Neville spout about us to be unecessary. Neville for example will go out of his way and try and be impartial. They were good players for the club and some fans have their heads so far up their arses that no matter what they spout they're right because they were fantastic players for us in the past.
 
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Thing is - they're both right. Mourinho should be doing a better job with Pogba. As we saw today, giving him that role on the left transforms the team. But then Scholes should try being a manager and having the pressure of picking the starting 11. I doubt he'd do better.

Still, Mourinho should have just brushed those comments off.
 

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Jose is right. All these ex-reds talk a lot of shite, and Scholes is amongst the worst I have found. He has improved his punditry a bit, but generally, he’s not a very good one.
This....
 

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Jose is right. All these ex-reds talk a lot of shite, and Scholes is amongst the worst I have found. He has improved his punditry a bit, but generally, he’s not a very good one.
Yeah, Scholes used to talk a lot of crap during LVG era and he's not a good pundit, lets be honest, but his comments on Pogba weren't that bad imo.
Jose should have commented on Keown who said he lost the players. That was a lot worse.
 

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Isn't that what everyone on here thinks about Scholes aswell?
Not seen or heard what Scholes said to provoke the comments though.
 

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Jose should rise above it and deliver his snipe differently. He could have been cuter in his response but this is typical Jose. Ignore and move on. Who really cares?
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong with what Scholes is saying.

Jose shouldn't bite.

There's only going to be one winner in the end. Scholes is a legend and whilst he may talk bollocks at times - it's hard to completely disregard what he's saying as he does have genuine love for the club. I doubt any person on the caf wants United to succeed more than Scholes.
 

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Meh, this gets unwanted attention to make it bigger than it is.

Scholes said his opinion, Jose didn't agree with him and called him out saying it's easy to talk sitting in the studio.
I think you've left out the bit that most people would say is out of order.
 
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"Scholes will be in history as a phenomenal player - not as a pundit.

"If one day Paul decides to become a manager I wish that he can be 25% as successful as myself."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/he-doesnt-comment-criticises-jose-11782479

Thought this outburst was pathetic from Mourinho, calling out a United legend for having a point of view.

Sounds very arrogant and petty. What was he thinking really.
Thinking Schooled should shut his gob. The bull he said this week about Pogba was deserving of this.
 

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Im with Mourinho on this one. I can't stand the Nevilles, Scholes or Giggs as pundits; they have the exact opposite of what former United players should say.

Ferdinand is my favourite United pundit; because he is honest when he needs to be and backs the team when he needs to.
 

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Fantastic stuff from Mourinho - standing up for his players against a pundit who, if he hadn't ever played for Utd, would be viewed as an ABU WUM on the level of dross like Danny Murphy.

Mourinho was respectful of Scholes playing career, respectful of the club, and also stood up for his players and himself.

Scholes as a pundit is a muppet, a borderline troll of a pundit who offers very little insight and seems to thrive off of attention seeking quotes - it's good that a current Man Utd employee has put him in his place (while respecting his skill as a player).
 

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Hypocrisy of some people in here :lol:

Have they forgotten how Fergie roasted Gary Neville in his presser and labelled him an 'idiot'? Gary Neville did the same thing, he was overly critical of DDG after we drew 1-1 to Spurs. Manager is defending his players and himself, why is it such a big shock when it's Mourinho?
 

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Scholes has done nothing but criticize him since he got the job. Scholes in fact has done nothing but insult our players and managers since he retired.

Don't particularly care. Doesn't change what he did for the club but he deserves it.
 

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Im with Mourinho on this one. I can't stand the Nevilles, Scholes or Giggs as pundits; they have the exact opposite of what former United players should say.

Ferdinand is my favourite United pundit; because he is honest when he needs to be and backs the team when he needs to.
This. Neville is trying so hard to be neutral that most of the time he speaks absolute bollocks.
 

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I still wonder why Mourinho is wasting his time talking about Scholes?

One thing that caught my eye today, was how Mourinho conducted himself during the BBC interview.

It's like he feels the entire world of journalists are conspiring against him! The interview is three minutes and five seconds. How many times does he look at the man trying to do his job? Who the hell is he talking to? That's a huge lack of respect in my opinion, and why Mourinho has a bad reputation.

Jeez. Show some respect man.
 

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I love scholes, my favorite player all time. But he really is a terrible pundit, and I feel he always goes over the top to emphasize the negatives when it comes to United.
 

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"Scholes will be in history as a phenomenal player - not as a pundit.

"If one day Paul decides to become a manager I wish that he can be 25% as successful as myself."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/he-doesnt-comment-criticises-jose-11782479

Thought this outburst was pathetic from Mourinho, calling out a United legend for having a point of view.

Sounds very arrogant and petty. What was he thinking really.
Really? Scholes and a few other greats of the game have made a name for themselves as being total Pratts on TV. It doesn’t matter that he’s a Utd legend, that remains untarnished. If he wants to say some ‘controversial,’ statements as a TV pundit he should expect the same in return. Jose has a point. It doesn’t preclude him from having an opinion,however it doesn’t give him immunity from criticism himself.

Personally he’s a crap pundit. He simply doesn’t have the personality of a Neville nor the sardonic humour of a Keane
 

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TBF I find our ex players constantly criticising our club and putting us under pressure more shocking than these comments from Mou.