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Good comparison.She's the Democratic Ted Cruz. Sure there's substance there but it's also buried in a ton of grandstanding and a heavy dose of ambition.
Good comparison.She's the Democratic Ted Cruz. Sure there's substance there but it's also buried in a ton of grandstanding and a heavy dose of ambition.
Bruh Teddy is many things but incompetent is not one of them. You only need to look at the way he ran his campaign for evidence.There is no substance to Ted Cruz. He is another piece of shit. His thinking and his ideas are so backward that he cant be the man to take America forward.
She's right.Here's Tulsi making a pitch for the right of center Islamophobe vote by parroting GOP talking points about "Radical Islamic Terror" .
Are you interested in her based on your shared religious views ?She's right.
Not voting is just not on, make your vote count.Awful comparison. Ted Cruz is an awful person. Gabbard is progressive and has a bright political future.
Yes. You've asked me this before, fishy mate. I'll vote for the progressive Dem or vote Green if the Dems are all twats. Or not vote at all (looking very likely at this point). I mean, just imagine the primaries if Mark Zuckerberg, Kanye, the Rock and Oprah all run.
Zuck polls very badly (thank god). Not sure about the rest.Not voting is just not on, make your vote count.
I knew I was going to be asked that at some point. It's nice that there is a Hindu in Congress, but no, that's not why I'll support her if she runs. She's anti war, was always against the Iraq war, supported Bernie, is progressive and in my opinion was correct regarding the Syrian civil war. She recognised that the threat was not Assad but IS and the other groups.Are you interested in her based on your shared religious views ?
He was a political celebrity, lots of charisma and first black nominee. He didn't start his career or campaign leveraging his fame, but it did follow, as it has for every other notable nominee, Sarah Palin is still famously stupid thanks to her run for veep.
He became a cultural celebrity by running, which is a massive difference from being a reality tv host and running.
That's fair enough. I was casually thinking of the general trend. By the time Obama was elected he was worshipped by many as some kind of superhero that had nothing to do with policies. It was all down to his image and his speeches.That's a stretch, he was a senator for three years and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. Sure, he wasn't a governor or anything, but his ability to draw crowds shouldn't just make him a celebrity.
Agree 100%
OkI knew I was going to be asked that at some point. It's nice that there is a Hindu in Congress, but no, that's not why I'll support her if she runs. She's anti war, was always against the Iraq war, supported Bernie, is progressive and in my opinion was correct regarding the Syrian civil war. She recognised that the threat was not Assad but IS and the other groups.
For supporting a losing candidate ?So many Dems in Congress shunned Bernie when he ran but she endorsed him early on. Well done Tulsi, the progressives will always remember! Just like the North always remembers.
Oh dear, people actually still believe this Trump lie?And what about Clinton using her power as SoS to accept huge sums of money from foreign governments for her foundation? And using the state department to grant favours and give arms and stuff to those very same countries? And sell uranium to Russia?
Oh my myI knew I was going to be asked that at some point. It's nice that there is a Hindu in Congress,
I haven't researched the uranium deal to Russia but what about Clinton using her power as SoS to accept huge sums of money from foreign governments for her foundation? And using the state department to grant favours and give arms and stuff to those very same countries? Will everyone respond to those charges with an eye roll as well?Oh dear, people actually still believe this Trump lie?
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895
Did Hillary also somehow control the EIGHT other agencies who approved the deal?
Was going to say this isn't a bad idea, but:
Sounds like Trump is your candidate not Tulsi Gabbard.I haven't researched the uranium deal to Russia but what about Clinton using her power as SoS to accept huge sums of money from foreign governments for her foundation? And using the state department to grant favours and give arms and stuff to those very same countries? Will everyone respond to those charges with an eye roll as well?
Pardon me? Do you want all 100 senators and 435 reps and the executive to be Protestant white men? Rich elite WASPs? I don't get your post.Oh my my
Everything has to be about religion?Pardon me? Do you want all 100 senators and 435 reps and the executive to be Protestant white men? Rich elite WASPs? I don't get your post.
I thought you were interested in policy and not religion ?Pardon me? Do you want all 100 senators and 435 reps and the executive to be Protestant white men? Rich elite WASPs? I don't get your post.
I am. I'm not supporting her on the basis of her religion, but because of her views. I merely stated that it's nice to have a Hindu in Congress. RDCR07 quoted that bit of my post like it's a bad thing to say that it's nice to have a person of such and such religion as a Congress member? Even when I said in the same post that it's not the reason why I support her.I thought you were interested in policy and not religion ?
I knew I was going to be asked that at some point. It's nice that there is a Hindu in Congress, but no, that's not why I'll support her if she runs. She's anti war, was always against the Iraq war, supported Bernie, is progressive and in my opinion was correct regarding the Syrian civil war. She recognised that the threat was not Assad but IS and the other groups.
That says a lot about the party...If having not supported the Iraq war is a basic minimum for the next presidential candidate,
Single payer is the basic minimum for me. That's the litmus test. Overturning Citizen's United to get money out of politics is a plus. But universal healthcare is the most important issue.Not sure Nikhil, but looks like you are supporting Tulsi Gabbard primarily because she was one of the first to declare for Sanders. If having not supported the Iraq war is a basic minimum for the next presidential candidate, then realistic choices from Dems would be extremely narrow or look for people with no experience in politics.
Probably because the eventual candidate was all bluster with no said stance on the subject and was able to deflect both ways. This Iraq -Hillary war monger is like the gun control activists crying Sanders is anti-gun control. It's just not true, but it's only good for arguments and the intercept.comIt is a nice irony that the Republican frontrunner was KOd by the eventual candidate in part by attacking him and his family on their Iraq warmongering, while the Dem candidate was a vocal supporter.
Trump ran against Dubya, not his dad and not against Jeb's non existent foreign policyIt is a nice irony that the Republican frontrunner was KOd by the eventual candidate in part by attacking him and his family on their Iraq warmongering, while the Dem candidate was a vocal supporter.
I'd say that is a decent expectation. Would you vote for Oprah if she stands for single payer?Single payer is the basic minimum for me. That's the litmus test. Overturning Citizen's United to get money out of politics is a plus. But universal healthcare is the most important issue.
It's called diplomacy. Sometimes it helps to gauge the perspective of the other side.She's a complete Charlatan who flew to Syria to meet with Assad on a trip funded by a U.S. group linked with the regime of the Syrian dictator. That alone will disqualify her from any credible attempts at higher office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...5e9c70-e4bf-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html
You may need a refresher on what diplomacy is. She isn't authorized to conduct foreign policy on behalf of the US government. That's the President's job. Therefore going there as a political stunt to promote an anti-American policy could only result in her getting used as a propaganda tool for Assad regime. There's no diplomacy involved there.It's called diplomacy. Sometimes it helps to gauge the perspective of the other side.
Makes a refreshing change from simply shutting down all relations and opting to instead back an insurgency riddled with radical extremists. Unless you of course consider Hillary Clinton taking money from the Qataris or John McCain posing with head-choppers in Syria to be taking the position of moral decency.
Something we can agree on.Gabbard would be a catastrophe and a nod to the Trump-crowd. Please don’t.
Yep. She's really a vile POS.Is Gabbard still questioning whether Assad was responsible for the sarin attacks? I forget her position.
I don't care about Bernie's gun stances, for this argument let's assume he was indeed Ted Cruz.This Iraq -Hillary war monger is like the gun control activists crying Sanders is anti-gun control. It's just not true, but it's only good for arguments and the intercept.com
And yet almost every single congressman/woman happily accepts glorified bribes and all expenses paid trips to Israel in order to fire up pro-Israeli sentiment. Yet we paint that as some sort of diplomatic consensus.You may need a refresher on what diplomacy is. She isn't authorized to conduct foreign policy on behalf of the US government. That's the President's job. Therefore going there as a political stunt to promote an anti-American policy could only result in her getting used as a propaganda tool for Assad regime. There's no diplomacy involved there.
Personally these attacks on Hillary smack of sexism. You don't hear similar arguments made for Bush 41 or Bill Clinton, both who were just as forward leaning in their foreign policies. It also happens to be long standing US policy so its rather questionable that she should be singled out.I don't care about Bernie's gun stances, for this argument let's assume he was indeed Ted Cruz.
Hillary supported Iraq, was the catalyst in Libya, pushed for Syria, tacitly supported a coup in Honduras, and she took advice from Kissinger, produced a split among neocons, half of whom lined up behind her. Those together are very consequential actions with a trend towards intervention. Instead of saying fakenews, you could start pointing out why she is *not* a hawk.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27...-2016-military-intervention-libya-iraq-syria/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html
https://www.thecairoreview.com/essays/hillary-the-hawk/
https://www.salon.com/2016/04/27/de...ght_shes_a_bigger_hawk_than_the_republicanse/
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/hillary-clinton-really-loves-military-intervention/