NFL 2017/18

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Why does Neil keep saying national anthemS as if there's two coming
 
Poor @Rado_N picks the best team in NFL but it only lasts for 2 years, then calls everybody else gloryhunters 14-17 times per season :lol:
 
rpitroda said:
But what relevance does this have? Rodgers struggles due to play calling too. Wilson didn’t even get Seahawks to the playoffs. Are you saying Brady does worse than these guys?

And you think Brady loses the game like Brees did last week?

Come on man give over. I’m ok with people saying Brady isn’t the GOAT, but stuff like this just irritates me because it’s pure trash.
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No
I'm saying it's all opinion and can't be proven either way
But only one thing is definite, Brady is with BB and vice versa
Don't get so defensive and offended
 
I think Lionel Messi is just lucky to be part of a great organization. Put him in a Stoke City XI, and he would struggle. Put him in a Huddersfield XI, and he would struggle. Thats why he's not GOAT. After all, it's all opinion, so you can't say i' m wrong.
 
Sylar said:
Tbf the arguments was him having good or other great QB rather than above average QBs

It's all opinion
I think if you swap Brady with Rodgers Wilson or brees for example, patriots might just do the same (I do think Brady being Brady has an affect on play calling on the opposition late in games)

Then again swap Brady into those teams he struggles. He defo struggles in green bay cos of the horrendous play calling lol

It's hard go guess
What we do know is TB and BB are a dream match
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I believe my post on page 174 mentioned this... and that BB only won once he found a great QB.

MrMarcello said:
And they still missed the playoffs. His Cleveland tenure speaks for just how awesome it is for a coach to have a HOF-level QB.
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rpitroda said:
As good as Big Ben or Brees ... wow really?

Purely on physical traits, sure I might buy that. But time and time again people like you overlook how important mental attributes are.
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Overrated. Take this game as example... Defence and Dola had more to contribute than Brady. But then only Tom's mental attributes will get discussed.

But then by what measure do you rate Brady as mentally strong than any other big name QB out there?
 
Sylar said:
No
I'm saying it's all opinion and can't be proven either way
But only one thing is definite, Brady is with BB and vice versa
Don't get so defensive and offended
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It is all opinion. But the tone of your message implied one opinion being more likely to be more true than another. You can’t say it’s subjective then imply one is truth over another?

I could turn around and say Rodgers with B.B. wouldn’t do as good as Brady. Do you think people would not be offended by that?

Anyway let’s leave it.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Overrated. Take this game as example... Defence and Dola had more to contribute than Brady. But then only Tom's mental attributes will get discussed.

But then by what measure do you rate Brady as mentally strong than any other big name QB out there?
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Don't go down the rabbit hole with them mate: vision, adjustments, amazing mental toughness, 'insert completely untrackable ability'.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Overrated. Take this game as example... Defence and Dola had more to contribute than Brady. But then only Tom's mental attributes will get discussed.

But then by what measure do you rate Brady as mentally strong than any other big name QB out there?
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Not true. I have already said that Dola did more to win. And that our defence was key.

But you tend to ignore that Brady still drove us down the field in the clutch moment despite struggling prior in the game.

I cannot prove that Brady has better mental attributes than others. If you wanna disagree with me fine, go ahead - no point in discussing it as I won’t convince you otherwise. But there is a clear trend all throughout his career that Brady has performed when it matters. Sure others contributed but when you do it multiple times it stops being an anomaly or a fluke.

Anyway, I’m done discussing Brady.
 
Sylar said:
I'm a season ticket holder and it's not even guaranteed
It's abysmal planning
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Same. Went to all four.
So I can get early access to Wembley games and then if I buy them can get early access to seahawks-raiders game - the only one I want to see

They should use Wembley for a London team as 60k seats at Spurs isn’t enough
 
Funny thing is I never hear Staubach rated over Montana and yet Rodgers is Staubach-upgraded version 2.0 in modern times and Brady is clearly Montana-upgraded version 2.0.
 
rpitroda said:
It is all opinion. But the tone of your message implied one opinion being more likely to be more true than another. You can’t say it’s subjective then imply one is truth over another?

I could turn around and say Rodgers with B.B. wouldn’t do as good as Brady. Do you think people would not be offended by that?

Anyway let’s leave it.
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No
An opinion is that your own belief based on what you've seen or what you think is true in your own mind

As I've said Brady will be GOAT when all said and done

I'm not offended at all by that
I think being offended by an opinion is madness (unless it's personally insulting)
I think you put a healthy Rodgers in this patriots team and they make superbowl
I think you put Brady in green bay and they may just about make playoffs but imo it's questionable
 
Vikings td
Dammit
They going superbowl

These eagles fans gonna riot aren't they? Lol
 
Sylar said:
No
An opinion is that your own belief based on what you've seen or what you think is true in your own mind

As I've said Brady will be GOAT when all said and done

I'm not offended at all by that
I think being offended by an opinion is madness (unless it's personally insulting)
I think you put a healthy Rodgers in this patriots team and they make superbowl
I think you put Brady in green bay and they may just about make playoffs but imo it's questionable
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Ok. That’s your opinion.

I disagree with you but it means nothing because, according to you, disagreeing with you makes me defensive :).

Anyway, let’s leave it - we can agree to disagree. Onto the Vikings game!
 
I'm not a Patriots fan but some of the dogshit level denial of Brady's quality being made here this evening is RAWK level stupidity.
 
Sylar said:
Vikings td
Dammit
They going superbowl

These eagles fans gonna riot aren't they? Lol
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Wouldn't surprise me. I read riot police had to be called before the game had even started as fans started fighting!!
 
Falcons did well in the first quarter last week then Philly made adjustments and Ryan et al were Sark'd by their OC.

Let's see how the Vikings OC does after Philly inevitably make adjustments going forward.
 
That’s how you start a game

Here’s a question, what needs to happen to counter the current trend of dominant TEs (Gronk, Rudolph has been big for Vikings, Ertz, Gates obviously, Kelce etc)

It seems to be too much of a mismatch for LBs and CBs be it through their speed or their size
 
EdWeatherall said:
Same. Went to all four.
So I can get early access to Wembley games and then if I buy them can get early access to seahawks-raiders game - the only one I want to see

They should use Wembley for a London team as 60k seats at Spurs isn’t enough
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It's first come first served
I'm hearing spurs season ticket holders get priority too
Hope that s not true but keep reading that unofficially
There's apparently 40k season ticket holders for london gamws
And they are allowing season a season ticket holder to purchase upyo 4 tickets
It's silly
And stadium isn't even done so they cant announce anything
Mess
 
elnorte said:
I'm not a Patriots fan but some of the dogshit level denial of Brady's quality being made here this evening is RAWK level stupidity.
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Precisely and that’s what infuriates me. If someone came along and said I prefer Rodgers to Brady or Brady is great but maybe not quite the GOAT, I can live with that. If someone said Brady is a great QB but probably wouldn’t have all the rings and GOAT tag without B.B., again fine and I agree. And it’s fair enough.

It’s the Brady is on par with Big Ben, or Brady is only a good QB (I.e not even great) cos of B.B., or Brady is only a top 10 QB nonsense that annoys me.
 
Sylar said:
It's first come first served
I'm hearing spurs season ticket holders get priority too
Hope that s not true but keep reading that unofficially
There's apparently 40k season ticket holders for london gamws
And they are allowing season a season ticket holder to purchase upyo 4 tickets
It's silly
And stadium isn't even done so they cant announce anything
Mess
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I don’t think spurs season ticket holders have priority.

In terms of season ticket holders having priority on first come first served isn’t that broadly what happened when Twickenham came up?
 
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