Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)

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They've spent basically £650mil over past 3 seasons (we've spent around 450m for comparison). They're at like £280m for this season alone. That's insane.
Yes, and our spending is the most we've EVER done, while theirs is on par with each of the past 8 seasons!
 

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How much is that on defenders and keepers now? I'm pretty sure Peps next job will be PSG because they're the only club who can spend that kind of money
 

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How much is that on defenders and keepers now? I'm pretty sure Peps next job will be PSG because they're the only club who can spend that kind of money
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I think Pep wants out of City ASAP. He wants an incredible season to maintain his legend before tottering of to his next cheat mode appointment.
Pep has no reason to go to a challenging job at this point, he has most of the footballing world fooled into thinking he's a genius, inventor of football ect. Even when he takes over Spain, it'll be just about when the next crop of generational talents come through. Most managers worth their salt would have won the title with the City team he had last season.
 
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I would love to see mini meltdown from that fraud baldy face when Arsene knock him out in Carabao Cup final. If thats mean i get one Gooner lover tag, no problem. He is a bad liar, telling everyone that his team is a poor one because he need to spend big for compete with big clubs? At least he in some way admitted that City is a small time club.
 

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Be hypocritical of me, a Chelsea fan, to criticise City's spending. We did the same thing when Roman took over. I would rather see other clubs have the ability to spend well too though, it would make the league really fun. It would make it even more exciting if CL places were allocated to the top 6, with the top four gaining automatic entry. Every club in the PL allocated with the same budget every season for transfers and see what happens. It would mean clubs spending smarter.
 

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Now they want Mahrez because Sane got injured. Wtf, he’s only out for 6 weeks, not 6-9 months.

A slight injury and they go straight into the market. Mental.

Surely they aren't prepared to spend north of £50 million on a player they will use for a maximum of 2 months? That is borderline insanity and makes a complete mockery of the transfer system. Mahrez won't get close to the starting 11 when they are at full strength, in fact he will be lucky to make the squad! Let's hope he realises that before its to late - like Sanchez did before him.

Fecking City, it's getting beyond a joke with them now.
 
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Surely they aren't prepared to spend vorth of £50 million on a player they will use for a maximum of 2 months? That is borderline insanity and makes a complete mockery of the transfer system. Mahrez won't get close to the starting 11 when they are at full strength, in fact he will be lucky to make the squad! Let's hope he realises that before its to late - like Sanchez did before him.

Fecking City, it's getting beyond a joke with them now.
The funny thing is, its the same amount of money they would spend on Sanchez even higher spend if we count Laporte whom they signed earlier. But media resort that City some short of money. I cant comprehend that bullshit after bullshit media served us about City but yet they still potrait Pep is some sort of saint of football.
 

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Laporte is a strange one for me. 57m for someone who is 24 in May and hasn't got a senior international cap yet is odd
 

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Laporte is a strange one for me. 57m for someone who is 24 in May and hasn't got a senior international cap yet is odd
Him not having a cap yet has more to do with Deschamps than Laporte's quality to be fair.
 

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Laporte is a strange one for me. 57m for someone who is 24 in May and hasn't got a senior international cap yet is odd
Maybe Laporte is hoping going to City will get him in the French squad. Pity Deschamp is the manager. It is definitely a strange one for City. You wouldn't even put it past them to spend even more money on CB's if Stones doesn't progress further.
 

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A lot of City fans epitomise the new age supporter.

ie. always choose to sign a new player over using a quality youth player. they got phil foden, diaz etc but their fans would rather clamour for Mahrez to join
 

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Could turn into a one horse league if they manage to seal mahrez.
It already is, really. We're minted to feck and couldn't hope to keep up with their spending. They are seemingly able to buy their way out of any situation.
 

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It already is, really. We're minted to feck and couldn't hope to keep up with their spending. They are seemingly able to buy their way out of any situation.
It will. I just hope there is someone to stop them in the CL, the holy grail for them. Hope it is us. That would be great.
I'm more thinking for the years to come. This season was over a long time ago and the champions league is so unpredictable that the best team doesn't always necessarily win it. We don't know how good Laporte is going to be at all so I'm not saying that but he still will surely be a better option than Mangala so they have strengthened there.

If they get mahrez it will just be ridiculous they would easily have the strongest team with no summer signings (and you can bet they will sign in the summer)
 

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A lot of City fans epitomise the new age supporter.

ie. always choose to sign a new player over using a quality youth player. they got phil foden, diaz etc but their fans would rather clamour for Mahrez to join

to be fair foden is out for the rest of the season with an injury.
 

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Surely there has to be a spending cap or the other club may as well not exist.
Why do you think City's media narrative around FFP 2.0 has already started? Unless things go severely tits up for them it'll be like this for the near future

I'm more thinking for the years to come. This season was over a long time ago and the champions league is so unpredictable that the best team doesn't always necessarily win it. We don't know how good Laporte is going to be at all so I'm not saying that but he still will surely be a better option than Mangala so they have strengthened there.

If they get mahrez it will just be ridiculous they would easily have the strongest team with no summer signings (and you can bet they will sign in the summer)
Yeah I was talking about years to come too. Realistically, they have the money to make the rest of the league pointless. It will need some careful management though as things can go wrong, but the money they have and more importantly are spending is eye watering.
 

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A player gets injured for six weeks and Pep decides he'll buy someone to replace him? What must Bernardo Silva be thinking?

Could you imagine Mourinho did this, or that Mourinho spent half a billion in 18 months (which Pep will do if Mahrez joins City)? The media would be going ballistic. We did a swap deal and got called the money team! :lol:
 

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Could turn into a one horse league if they manage to seal mahrez.
Nah there will be challengers to them. A lot of the teams closest are still in transition. Mahrez is quality but they can only put out 11 at a time. Even that great Barca team got overtook in the end.

Only thing is Pep can feck off with his holier than thou attitude. I really feel for Foden and hope he is wise in making the next step in his career.

As for you guys, you've had amazing youth teams in the past years and should be looking to develop as many of them as possible even if it means a few years without trophies. I feel the same for United to be honest, get Gomes, Chong, TFM, Tuanzebe and O'Connor developed in the right way and along with Rashford, Martial, Shaw and Pogba there could be something money can't buy. The class of 92 bled United and Barca's great team bled Barca. Chelsea with patience could develop the same thing.

Edit: obviuosly some I listed were bought for huge fees but Pogba came up here and the others were bought young enough to instill that passion.
 

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I can't see Mahrez lasting long. We'll sell him to Sevilla for £20m or so in the summer of 2020. It's a panic buy that makes sense for the couple of years we'll have him for. We're getting our business done before FFP 2.0 comes into place, essentially. Laporte and Mahrez would usually be summer buys but we've just rushed them through after what's happened with Sanchez and Sané.
 

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:rolleyes:Of course he wouldn't.

I cant believe fans are complaining about how much a team spends in this day and age.:lol:
True, but there just seems to be something different, even in an age when clubs are spending over a 100 million pounds on players, about spending over 60 million pounds/Euros on a player as a replacement for someone that is injured for 6 weeks. City are essentially spending 60 million pounds on an eventual back-up player. I think that is why people are reacting the way they are to this transfer
 

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Could turn into a one horse league if they manage to seal mahrez.
It already is, so Mahrez won't make a difference in that regard.

Are City really that reactive that they'd be willing to shell out close to a three digit number of millions for a replacement just because one of their players is out for a few weeks? It seems absolutely bonkers. I just don't understand why they haven't gone for Mahrez earlier, if they feel he's their man. He's been there for the taking, so to speak, for a nearly couple of seasons.
 

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I can't see Mahrez lasting long. We'll sell him to Sevilla for £20m or so in the summer of 2020. It's a panic buy that makes sense for the couple of years we'll have him for. We're getting our business done before FFP 2.0 comes into place, essentially. Laporte and Mahrez would usually be summer buys but we've just rushed them through after what's happened with Sanchez and Sané.
Should Foden leave?
 

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We've had our hand forced by Sané getting injured. I've wanted us to sign an extra winger/forward since the summer, which is why I didn't exactly want Sanchez but wouldn't have said no to him either. We have five attacking midfielders (Sterling, De Bruyne, Silva, Bernardo, Sane) when everyone's fit, so I understand the signing now Sané and Jesus are out.

Plus, with FFP 2.0 looking like a possibility, it makes sense to do our business now and then tighten the purse strings in the summer. Right now, if Laporte and Mahrez come off, we're looking at going into next season with a nearly-complete squad. Fred from Shakhtar and another left-back will basically be all we need to do in terms of recruiting new players.
 

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So, city have spent so far 280M£ so far this season with the arrival of Laporte. if they get Mahrez for the reported 60M£, they would have spent 340M£ in one season, one season only! and in the same season we would have spent 147M£.

Let that sink in: City: 340M£ / United: 147M£.
 

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Should Foden leave?
Considering he's about three years off being good enough for the first team anyway, and considering he doesn't play anywhere near the wing, I'd say no?
 

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Considering he's about three years off being good enough for the first team anyway, and considering he doesn't play anywhere near the wing, I'd say no?
Fair enough, I just see no future for him there, not like he has any contemporaries to look at who've made it to the first team squad.
 

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Considering he's about three years off being good enough for the first team anyway, and considering he doesn't play anywhere near the wing, I'd say no?
What ? it's not a fruit you know ? you can't say when he will be ready to play for the first team. Or am i missing something ?
 

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So, city have spent so far 280M£ so far this season with the arrival of Laporte. if they get Mahrez for the reported 60M£, they would have spent 340M£ in one season, one season only! and in the same season we would have spent 147M£.

Let that sink in: City: 340M£ / United: 147M£.
As I've said in the post above yours: if we sign Mahrez, we'll only need to add a left-back and a midfielder in the summer. Fred for £40m, a back-up left-back (say, Bertrand) for £30m. United on the other hand need new first-team full-backs (£40m each), two new CMs (£50m each) and a new first-team CB (£40m). Mahrez will be something of a panic buy but we're doing our summer business six months early.
 

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What ? it's not a fruit you know ? you can't say when he will be ready to play for the first team. Or am i missing something ?
He's 17, not 18 until next season starts, and unlikely to reach any kind of consistent performance level until he's about 20. There's time to loan him, show him the ropes, build his experience. The worst thing you could possibly do to a seventeen-year-old footballer is to give them responsibility they're too young to handle. If we throw Foden in for Sané over the next two months (which we wouldn't) and it backfires it could knock him for six. Better to sign a stopgap (Mahrez) and given Foden / Diaz some time. Rashford's a romantic case of a young player seizing their chance with both hands, and I like him a lot for that reason alone, but that rarely happens.
 

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As I've said in the post above yours: if we sign Mahrez, we'll only need to add a left-back and a midfielder in the summer. Fred for £40m, a back-up left-back (say, Bertrand) for £30m. United on the other hand need new first-team full-backs (£40m each), two new CMs (£50m each) and a new first-team CB (£40m). Mahrez will be something of a panic buy but we're doing our summer business six months early.
We've got Shaw whose coming into his own, TFM who has done well at Palace, Tuanzebe who has a lot of potential. CM I agree with.
 

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I think you can field an entire City line up with Guardiola's signings. Let them keep spending. I'm not worried in the slightest. Mahrez is a great signing but there's no way they will keep all those players happy. What happens when Sane and Jesus are back? It's definitely a panic buy no question. Unless there is a rule change which allows more than 11 players on at the same time we can compete with them. Hopefully this can put our move for Sanchez into perspective.
 

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Felt we needed an extra winger. Really only have 2 in the squad with Raheem, and Sane(don't think b. Silva is good out wide). Didn't think it would happen until the summer especially with the Laporte transfer. Spending another 50+ million on Mahrez is kind of a joke with how much we have already spent this year. I'm sure once sane is back there will be rotation between the three, but feels like it would be 50 million on the third choice winger which is frankly bewildering even for a city fan.
 
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