The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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Already been relying on NZ for their wine for some time. Didn’t think it’d ever come to beer...
Very good Craft beer scene in NZ. Arguable that their beer is better than their wine. Can't make a decent large-volume lager though.
Im-Peach-Ment is a low note as it's fruity and sour. But it tickled me when they started stocking it a year ago.
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Feck nous.
A can costs around 10c to make... even if you assumed the whole cost of that was raw materials you are looking at a 1c rise
Yeah, a 10% increase on packaging costs is a fortune. Then you’ve got kegs and vats to take into account.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/opinion/trump-trade-tariffs-steel.html?
Don't always agree with Krugmann but this has been interesting.
Don't always agree with Krugmann but this has been interesting.
Bud Light has just started doing bottles though.
If it’s anything like here the price of materials can go up by a small margin but they put the price of the product up by a massive one.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/cillizza-toobin-stormy-convo/index.html
if it was a 10% increase in all the packing costs then yeah but its not its 10% in material which compared to the cost of a packing plant is minimal
You don't think there will be a whole chain of production that will be effected by this (Aluminium and Steel)? From the machinery used by the farms that grow the hops, transport vehicles and equipment at every stage of production and logistics and equipment in the brewery.
I can promise you with absolute certainty that the 10% price increase on the can it's sold in is not the only place prices will increase and we're only talking about breweries here. Now consider other manufacturers of other products which use more aluminium and steel and think of their production line and the other products that rely on their products.
There is only one winner from this ridiculous policy and it's American manufacturers of Aluminium and Steel. Every consumer of the materials whether a producer or consumer will be stung by this... although...
...consumers might be spared in the fact they will still be able to buy foreign products made on foreign lands which were not hit by 10/25% charges on their materials at cheaper rates than US products.
...US manufacturers can spare themselves the 10/25% charges if they relocate their factories outside of the US and instead import the finished products.
So it could potentially drive production out of the US and take thousands of jobs with it, all for the benefit of Steel/Aluminium manufacturers who will then have little market left to sell to in the US and be forced to sell at reduced rates outside of the US.
Trump is a genius.
And... if you think breweries make slot of cans, think of how many cans the soda industry uses 
Was sure that was a @SteveJ ninja edit but no! 
Sadly not, mate.Was sure that was a @SteveJ ninja edit but no!
If he goes get his infra plans in motion then actually there will be a massive usa market - plus we are actually looking at setting up there if he gets plans approved as we fully expect preference to be given to usa steel / produced goods... our main issue is actually getting the profiles at the required quality we need over there - similar problem in the UK - the simple facts are that some of the more modern plants (central and eastern europe and china especially) can churn out far more of the materials we need quicker - might have been more effective to have given a tax break on people investing in the facilities in the USA in the long run.
Excellent job numbers this morning and the last two months were revised up by 150,000 jobs. Guess what Trump will want to talk about the next few days.
and north korea probably
SNL's parody of Drake's latest hit, God's Plan, called Don's Plan:
Not Jessica Drake.
Is the whole going after video games thing causing much cognitive dissonance amongst the Trump fan/gamergate geeks on places like r/thedonald?
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Gotta give it to Trump, he never stops delivering awkward moments.
The guy Trump wanted to arm wrestle just looked annoyed and shrugged him off saying "I'm good buddy".
Gotta give it to Trump, he never stops delivering awkward moments.CNN is back on track after the North Korea and jobs numbers......all the talk is porn stars and Russia again
MSNBC was even worse last night. They were talking about Trump/Russia during the North Korean announcement.CNN is back on track after the North Korea and jobs numbers......all the talk is porn stars and Russia again
Its funny but kid of sad and plays right into Trumps fake biased news theory. It is like they have forgotten about anything in the world aside from Trump. I am kind of getting bored of CNN now. Lets have a little more variety in the news.@SteveJ
The guy Trump wanted to arm wrestle just looked annoyed and shrugged him off saying "I'm good buddy".
'Trump: he won't raise your taxes but he will raise the dead!'
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Fake nudes.
A complete humiliation for Tillerson to be completely left out of the biggest diplomatic events
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I don't think Tillerson can be humiliated any further. He's been irrelevant for over a year now.
I love pictures where they deliberately throw the black person in there.
Kim Jung is playing Trump like a fiddle here.CNN is back on track after the North Korea and jobs numbers......all the talk is porn stars and Russia again
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I think the pressure on North Korea is finally taking its toll. Years of sanctions are really biting. The number of supplies heading south from China have dried up dramatically. I think Kim Jung is under intense pressure at home and this is his best move. Playing Trump would be a very risky move. If Kim messes it up and totally alienates Trump the options of N. Korea will be somewhere between grim and bleak.
N.Korea got their get out of jail free card now anyway, they have nuclear capabilities. They are fully aware that no one would dare invade them due to the risk of them nuking S.Korea, so Kim Jung probably is more open to talks than he was pre-nuke.
He's (Kim) obviously going to try and get one over on Trump. He's looked at the current pres. and figured there'll never be a better time to try.
North Korea haven't tested a nuclear warhead on a missile or even produced one small enough to be placed on a missile. Even it they got one airborne it still has to get past air defense system and hit its target. They are a few years of being a true nuclear threat according to most defense analysts. Anyway, no one is using nukes. North Korea would be wiped off the map s few minutes after launching a nuclear strike on Seoul.
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