Preseason Tour Game 4: Man Utd v Liverpool (ICC, Saturday 28th July 22:05 BST)

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Look, don’t try and talk sense to me. As far as I’m concerned Mourinho may as well be responsible for world hunger, aids, and the Middle East crisis. That’s how much I hate him. I’ve gone past the point of rational discussion.
Then you should be thread banned for any Mourinho related threads. All at least earn yourself a Mourinho hater tag.
 

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You’re right but even when we play Liverpool with our full squad, Mourinho still parks the fecking bus and plays shit house football. Today he did the same thing but with worse players.

He’s the worst possible manager for us. I’d rather have Ronald fecking McDonald.
So you got proven wrong in biblical fashion and then decided to double down with an out and out lie about parking the bus against pool? We beat them comfortably and they did. It even get a shot on goal.

Worst post I have seen for a least 20 seconds.
 

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We'd have been better cancelling the tour and playing Bury, Oldham & Rochdale and staying at home.

What's the point when you've got 90% of the bloody team missing?
That actually sounds like a much more enjoyable pre season Iregardless of the squad to me.
No 3/4 am wake ups to watch us play.
 

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I wasn't saying trophies determines who is better, I was just saying the one who has more trophies out of the two is the better manager.
To bring trophies into it meant you felt it held weight in determining who is the better manager, and then to call the person a melt like it is obvious Jose is much better is even more laughable. :lol: Tbh, I'm not not sure who is the better manager atm, but it is a hell of a lot closer than you are making out. Jose has had the better career so far for sure, but is he better right now at this moment? Dunno.
 

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Eh? How do you work that out? Not that I give a tiny rats arse like, because I don't, but I have to pull you on this whopper. What you said is like saying Wenger is better than Klopp because he's won more trophies.
What a stupid comparison to make. You used a manager who held on far too long whilst operating at a mediocre level but still won more trophies in his last few years than Klopp has for Liverpool and Dortmund. Why do you play down winning over style of play in your argument?
 

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So you got proven wrong in biblical fashion and then decided to double down with an out and out lie about parking the bus against pool? We beat them comfortably and they did. It even get a shot on goal.

Worst post I have seen for a least 20 seconds.
We have ONLY ever parked the bus against pool with Mourinho.
 

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Half of the comments on here are RAWK-worthy. Get a fecking grip. It's a pre season game with the majority of our starting first team missing. Not to mention the two penalties were extremely soft.

Would you celebrate with the amount of enthusiasm as you complain if it was us beating Liverpool in the same fashion? I really hope not. It means nothing.
 

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No but thats not my point. I couldn't care less if they did the double over us as long as we win the league.

I just merely pointed out the fact that Liverpool whether we like to acknowledge it or not play significantly better and more entertaining football than us and have improved their squad, and therefore I think they'll challenge this season. I'm not confident that we will.
Well thats your opinion, I disagree with it wholeheartedly but its your opinion.
 

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May go winless all of pre-season? I'm sure it'll just fire us up for the start of the season.
 

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It's the one who's won more trophies you melt.
I love Jose you melt back but as a season ticket holder his football is painful to watch!

It's the one who's won more trophies you melt.
Look Mourinho is a trophy Whore, no question and this game means f....all in the grand scheme of things but you reap what you sow and when you come out with some of the comments Jose has recently about Squad depth, with clear negative vibes, he just making it so difficult.....FFS Jose just smile, your managing Man United one of the biggest clubs in the World, start looking like your enjoying it, rather than its a burden to manage one of the worlds greatest football clubs !!
Getme Melt!
 

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It doesn't matter if there were players that aren't going to start for us. Liverpool didn't exactly have their best team in the period they took over in the game. Didn't Mane and Salah go off at half time? We still had some players that will get lots of games under Mourinho like Herrera, McTominay, Mata, Bailly etc.
Liverpool made many more changes than us and were fresher.
 

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We probably had only 1 starter out there today, so i can forgive the team for losing 4-1. But we really can look like the dullest team on the planet sometimes :lol:
 

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remember United winning 3-1 against Real madrid pre season and losing the first match of the season...
Yes friendlies pre-season are about marketing, players fitness, building ream morale and giving fringe players and youngsters a taste of the first team squad. We have had lots of youngsters heralded to be given chances in the past....that dotn happen, this year it is Periera who genuinely is good enough for the bench at least (especially considering the average players he has as competition).
All that being said and I hope its a case of being good it was now rather than being a sign of things to come when it matters.....some of the performances were the worst I have seen individually for a fair while. Only Grant, Pereira and Sanchez can come out with any credit at all, and all of those mainly for the first half. Some of our first team squad players were embarrassing.
 

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Would love to get shot of Darmian, Rojo and Jones. Problem is, TFM and Tuanzebe look a bit dopey to play CB at the top level (yet). Need Alderweireld or another quality centre half to come in.

Mitchell needs a loan, pretty rubbish. Shame because there's definitely something there. McTominay was ok, he's just not particularly talented. Great goal from Pereira, rest of his game was ok too. Lee Grant looks a mad bastard which I like. Bailly was the big disappointment for me tonight though, had his moments of course but I really wanted him to marshal the other defenders and you could see when Grant went off he just wasn't capable.

Mata and Sanchez had quite a nice understanding going though. Bit more pace in the team and it might have been very interesting to watch.

Worst performance of the night goes to the ref. What a chump. Think he thought it was a basketball game.
 

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So you got proven wrong in biblical fashion and then decided to double down with an out and out lie about parking the bus against pool? We beat them comfortably and they did. It even get a shot on goal.

Worst post I have seen for a least 20 seconds.
:lol:

The problem is if we have a go at the moaners then we get in trouble so its a no win situation.
 

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Another run out. Two great goals out of 5 total, one by each side. United looked very gassed after 70 minutes. So many young players playing together and no understanding was always going to be a question. Late night on Wednesday with training and traveling, then many of the players having to play at least another hour today.

Interesting to see who will get a chance to be in the squad against Leicester.
 

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What a stupid comparison to make. You used a manager who held on far too long whilst operating at a mediocre level but still won more trophies in his last few years than Klopp has for Liverpool and Dortmund. Why do you play down winning over style of play in your argument?
Exactly. :lol: Jesus, catch on fella. You can't use trophies to determine who is the better manager right now. You can use them to say who's been the better manager over their respective careers, but not right now at this very moment. That is exactly the point I was making.
 

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Another run out. Two great goals out of 5 total, one by each side. United looked very gassed after 70 minutes. So many young players playing together and no understanding was always going to be a question. Late night on Wednesday with training and traveling, then many of the players having to play at least another hour today.

Interesting to see who will get a chance to be in the squad against Leicester.
Sound post. The only one I see who has gained on this tour thus far is Periera. Sanchez is getting a good work out too.
 

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Exactly. :lol: Jesus, catch on fella. You can't use trophies to determine who is the better manager right now. You can use them to say who's been the better manager over their respective careers, but not right now at this very moment. That is exactly the point I was making.
In that case Emery is the master of the world :lol:
 

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Yes friendlies pre-season are about marketing, players fitness, building ream morale and giving fringe players and youngsters a taste of the first team squad. We have had lots of youngsters heralded to be given chances in the past....that dotn happen, this year it is Periera who genuinely is good enough for the bench at least (especially considering the average players he has as competition).
All that being said and I hope its a case of being good it was now rather than being a sign of things to come when it matters.....some of the performances were the worst I have seen individually for a fair while. Only Grant, Pereira and Sanchez can come out with any credit at all, and all of those mainly for the first half. Some of our first team squad players were embarrassing.
You make valid points and i agree. I uphold any criticism until we have all the players available including Pogba and Lukaku. If anything this game doesnt really give new insights, i mean, the act that this team gives away chances easily isnt new is it? If there was any desire to strenghten the defense this game could put that desire into a higher gear.
 

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Half of the comments on here are RAWK-worthy. Get a fecking grip. It's a pre season game with the majority of our starting first team missing. Not to mention the two penalties were extremely soft.

Would you celebrate with the amount of enthusiasm as you complain if it was us beating Liverpool in the same fashion? I really hope not. It means nothing.
What does RAWK-worthy mean these days? Has it changed, because back when I had the time and energy to troll on rivals forums RAWK was noted for its suppression of dissent and criticism. Everything about Liverpool was amazing and covered in sickly over emotional assertions.