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sunama

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When you've a CEO that has openly bragged about being able to do things in the transfer market that other teams can't, it makes zero sense for us to be scrambling around at the last minute trying to sign players.
I think he said that about 3-4 years ago.
Since then, he hasn't said anything about being able to outspend the opposition.
 

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When you've a CEO that has openly bragged about being able to do things in the transfer market that other teams can't, it makes zero sense for us to be scrambling around at the last minute trying to sign players.
We can be more procrastinating and then desperate than other teams!
 

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Even if we sign a CB , its not enough to compete with City over the course of a season.
We havent done enough to challenge them, or to challenge for the Champions League title

We'll be fighting for 4th place as it stands.
Wouldn’t matter who we signed, unless Mourinho gets at least 30% more out of every player he has we won’t come close to competing with them anyway.
 

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This whole "full backing" stuff is errant nonsense. If you define it as giving the manager everything he wants, all the time, at whatever price, then no manager in the world has ever had full backing.

Does Guardiola have full backing, since they missed out on Sanchez or Jorginho? If not, surely they should sack him or back him.

Mourinho is some winner if his success is predicated on having a goldfish CEO.
They missed out on Sanchez as they had already spent £400m at that point, then a week later they bought Laporte for their record transfer.

In both cases you give an example the player turned them down because they had better offers elsewhere.

City have unlimited money as such but still have FFP to abide to, so it must be staggered each year.
 

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People was saying when Jose joined that he’d implode on the 3rd season, I didn’t believe it would happen but I see no other alternative now.

As soon as the first defeat happens the press will ramp up the pressure on him which will filter down to match going fans if it hasn’t already
 

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Financially, what can we afford to do?

Am I imagining it or was there a story within the last few years about us loaning money or selling shares to raise funds for transfers? I remembered this earlier but couldn't remember the details.

On paper we can afford multiple top class signings. In reality we will never know as we dont have access to our money.


Man it really is beyond a joke. Our best finish in years and we chose not to try and push on. Our best players will be looking for the door should it be a bad year.
 

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They missed out on Sanchez as they had already spent £400m at that point, then a week later they bought Laporte for their record transfer.

In both cases you give as an example the player turned them down because they had better offers elsewhere.

City have unlimited money as such but still have FFP to abide to, so it must be staggered each year.
Man City have missed out on 2 players so far, Sanchez and Jorginho. Both were because the players renegged on agreements because clubs came in with late superior offers.

It's safe to say that City didn't sign these players out of principle; the money was there because they continue spending.
 

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They missed out on Sanchez as they had already spent £400m at that point, then a week later they bought Laporte for their record transfer.

In both cases you give as an example the player turned them down because they had better offers elsewhere.

City have unlimited money as such but still have FFP to abide to, so it must be staggered each year.
Exactly, if they weren't "penny pinching" and just got those elusive 5 mill on the table, they'd now have better players. Which is what Guardiola would have wanted. I guess now they are in a difficult position of deciding whether to sack him or back him, or something.
 

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Man City have missed out on 2 players so far, Sanchez and Jorginho. Both were because the players renegged on agreements because clubs came in with late superior offers.

It's safe to say that City didn't sign these players out of principle; the money was there because they continue spending.
I know. I can’t believe two posters are trying to say Pep hasn’t been backed because they missed out on two players, having already outspent everyone by well over £150m at this point.
 

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Well just look at the names we're in discussion with this summer: Fred, Dalot, Maguire, Alderweireld, Willian, Boateng, Mina...

They are good, but will they make a difference to increase the overall quality of the squad? Probably not.
Ah, so you mean “rumors” of players the club are interested in... you sounded so dead certain the way you are throwing vitriol. Do you do that in real life?
 

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I know. I can’t believe two posters are trying to say Pep hasn’t been backed because they missed out on two players, having already outspent everyone by well over £150m at this point.
You'll be relieved to know, that's not what anyone has argued.
 

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I know it goes against everything we stand for as a club, but would anyone accept Yerry Mina as a potential signing?
 

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The phrase, "too big to fail" .....

I genuinely thought we could always buy ourselves out of the crap, but it seems we have lost the desire to do that.

Seems as though we have some more drought years to come.
 

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Hoping for a sneaky Fekir bid.

Not sure where he fits in exactly, but it would create some excitement.
 

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The World Cup and the shortened Transfer Window have had a damaging effect on most of the top clubs with the exception of Liverpool who have done great business. Chelsea, Spurs are in similar position to United. Arsenal, who really knows how good their window has been and City signed a player they had basically tied up in the January Window.

Maybe it's time just to get behind the club and hope we have enough to get us through to January 1st 2019. We would have played 21 PL games, 6 CL games and hopefully 3 EFL CUP games. If we could somehow record 14 PL wins, 4 Draws and 3 Defeats and 4 wins in the CL, the whole Season might be far more exciting than most might imagine. The board might back Jose in that window and with new winter transfers now being allowed to play champions league, we might find the marquee players we need to kick on in the second half of the season.

There are clearly problems with our transfer policy, internal issues with the team and some players clearly not ready for the new season, so irrespective of whether we sign 1, 2 or No new players, I'm now excited and getting ready to take my seat at Old Trafford on Friday night to support my beloved United and I'm sure most of the true United Fans on the thread will be doing the same!
 

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Ah, so you mean “rumors” of players the club are interested in... you sounded so dead certain the way you are throwing vitriol. Do you do that in real life?
If they are rumours and none of them are the players he really wants then Jose should shut that shit down because it's affecting the club negatively. A lot of the speculation is due to his big mouth.
 

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Can we get an extra exclamation mark in the title for every hour that passes without a signing?
 

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I’m guessing Pochettino and Guardiola are on their way out as well as their clubs have signed feck all and next to feck all.
One has just one the PL at a canter, and the other is run by David Levy and don’t really have the ambition to win the PL. Other than that that’s a top contribution.
 

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The World Cup and the shortened Transfer Window have had a damaging effect on most of the top clubs with the exception of Liverpool who have done great business. Chelsea, Spurs are in similar position to United. Arsenal, who really knows how good their window has been and City signed a player they had basically tied up in the January Window.

Maybe it's time just to get behind the club and hope we have enough to get us through to January 1st 2019. We would have played 21 PL games, 6 CL games and hopefully 3 EFL CUP games. If we could somehow record 14 PL wins, 4 Draws and 3 Defeats and 4 wins in the CL, the whole Season might be far more exciting than most might imagine. The board might back Jose in that window and with new winter transfers now being allowed to play champions league, we might find the marquee players we need to kick on in the second half of the season.

There are clearly problems with our transfer policy, internal issues with the team and some players clearly not ready for the new season, so irrespective of whether we sign 1, 2 or No new players, I'm now excited and getting ready to take my seat at Old Trafford on Friday night to support my beloved United and I'm sure most of the true United Fans on the thread will be doing the same!
How you dare to bring some sense and positivism to this place. You should be banned with inmediate effect! :D
 

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Man City have missed out on 2 players so far, Sanchez and Jorginho. Both were because the players renegged on agreements because clubs came in with late superior offers.

It's safe to say that City didn't sign these players out of principle; the money was there because they continue spending.
Forgot Fred there mate.
 

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Man City have missed out on 2 players so far, Sanchez and Jorginho. Both were because the players renegged on agreements because clubs came in with late superior offers.

It's safe to say that City didn't sign these players out of principle; the money was there because they continue spending.
City, a club with principles. Now I've heard it all.
 

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Call me a masochist, but a growing part of me is enjoying the fact that we appear to have so many spinning plates leading into the last few days of this window! Does anyone else feel this way?

Average as they are in retrospect, the deadline day deals for both Falcao and Martial both gave me an instant fix of muppet juice like no other. Even the Ander Herrera imposter Lawyer scenario was great fun ( until dawn broke and we were left with just an injured Marouane Fellaini.)

Two days left and we may end up up Harry, Jerome, Toby or Yerry, we may even up with a couple of these or possibly none at all. Will Martial leave? And more importantly will Pogba? Will we panic buy Milinkovic-Savic or rinse Barcelona for both Rakitic and Dembele. Likelihood is a resounding fe#k no, but it's fun to imagine.

Whilst the smart money is on both Darmian and Juan Mata sticking around until nearer the end of the European window, a Mata for Perisic swap gets more believable the more excitable I get. Marcos Rojo is still lurking around like a bad smell, whilst there's always the possibility that Jose does a Jose and sends Andreas Pereira out on loan again, much to our dismay.

I'm equally dreading and anticipating the post-Thursday transfer thread meltdowns. They'll definitely provide more entertainment value than our team will.
 

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Two days left and we may end up up Harry, Jerome, Toby or Yerry, we may even up with a couple of these or possibly none at all. Will Martial leave? And more importantly will Pogba? Will we panic buy Milinkovic-Savic or rinse Barcelona for both Rakitic and Dembele. Likelihood is a resounding fe#k no, but it's fun to imagine.
Find out in the next episode of Dragon Ball Z because our transfer window is a joke, is a myth and non existent.
 

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Financially, what can we afford to do?

Am I imagining it or was there a story within the last few years about us loaning money or selling shares to raise funds for transfers? I remembered this earlier but couldn't remember the details.
I think we work on a strict budget and since we bought 2 very expensive players in the last two summer windows, we have to evaluate the players very conservative. We are not in a position to spend 150m each summer. On the other hand, I dont understand why we dont try to sell younger top talents then
 

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I wouldn't mind us just keeping what we have, getting top 4 and going all out next sumner possibly under a new manager who gels with Pogba and Martial, and who adds key reinforcements the management believe in. My fear is that we let Martial go with Pogba leaving next summer with us trying to sign the likes of Willian and Perisic. [/Drama queen mode]

I mean it would be better if we took all the right steps this summer but I'm just thinking aloud at the possible scenarios.

Gosh my phone is a mess and typing this was hard.
 

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Looked like OP predicted what will happen in this market way before us. Congrats mate. @Sassy Colin :D
I actually can't believe that this thread has stayed alive for pretty much the entire window.
I thought we might get one signing, when the thread was created, though once we made it through the WC and Jose looked miserable (I understood that he was told that the club were not funding a title bid)...which is when I got disheartened.
I didn't believe for 1 second the excuse of "it's the WC which is holding up transfers".
Top 4 is our target and if Jose gets 4th, Woodward will be ecstatic and tell our owners that we spent very little in the transfer window, while still getting into the CL. The Glazers will be ecstatic.
If all of the above comes to pass, then we'll have to hope that in future Jose (like SAF before him) can win the league on a relatively low budget.
 

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I wouldn't mind us just keeping what we have, getting top 4 and going all out next sumner possibly under a new manager who gels with Pogba and Martial, and who adds key reinforcements the management believe in. My fear is that we let Martial go with Pogba leaving next summer with us trying to sign the likes of Willian and Perisic. [/Drama queen mode]
You think that the board will spend big next Summer, just because they didn't spend much this Summer? It doesn't work like that.
The way it has worked in the last few years is that when we drop out of top 4, the club spend big money, to get back into the CL. Also, they replace the manager.
The owners want to make money - spend as little as possible, while maximising/maintaining revenue = the biggest profit possible.
I ask you this question: why would they spend £300M, say, to win the title, when the extra income gained from winning the title is next to nothing? Serious question.
 
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