Pogba: "There are things I cannot say, otherwise I will get fined"

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He should be allowed to say whatever he wants, why should the club fine him for criticizing Jose or anyone else ? Back in the 70 and 80's players interviews were much more entertaining.

Now the club tries to control everything they say. Pogba is right, and the club needs to build everything around him because his potential is huge. He can win the ballon'd or with us if things are done right.
 

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I've been on Pogba's side throughout the so called feud but this is just daft. Mou made him captain and praised him, Pogba could have ended this BS right now instead he's fuelling it. This not what the club needs right now. Would not mind if the diva fecks off next summer.
 

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We obviously have different interpretations of that comment by Jose during the World Cup, which is fair enough. Quoting any comment 1.5 years ago or whenever is far from bizaar like you suggested though. Comments must be placed in contexts. Why didn't the media or people like you with all due respect highlight the fact that Jose has always said great things about Pogba, commended him during the World Cup and congratulated him after the tournament? I find that evasion of context by the media rather odd. Why the whole focus on a comment that I and many others consider to be harmless (fair enough to those who interpret it otherwise). Even as recent as before the Leicester game and after it, he still poured commendations on Pogba. Why are those contexts irrelevant? Why should the debatable World Cup comment be isolated and be the justification for what Pogba just did?

People have conveniently forgotten that even as at earlier this year many people in France were very critical of Pogba and Deschamps himself demanded for Pogba to raise his level for France, exactly the same demand by mourinho.
It sounded like a backhanded compliment that absolved Mou of any blame.
 
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He should be allowed to say whatever he wants, why should the club fine him for criticizing Jose or anyone else ? Back in the 70 and 80's players interviews were much more entertaining.

Now the club tries to control everything they say. Pogba is right, and the club needs to build everything around him because his potential is huge. He can win the ballon'd or with us if things are done right.
In most jobs you'd get in trouble for being critical of your boss or the company in public - if something needs airing you do it 'in house'

I like Pogba and it would be shit to see him leave but ultimately Man United will be fine without him
 

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Childish. Was hoping Friday would have been the end of it but doesn't look like that's happening any time soon. Hooray.
The whole saga is fuelled by lazy journalism.

Biggest team. Biggest manager. Biggest player. = easy story to sell
 

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We’re in a different era of football now. I’m not sure it’s a helpful comparison to look at Ferguson being told by the CEO that the clubs struggling financially so he has to sell Stam. The club is a PLC now with shareholders... the finances are published and a hell of a lot more transparent than previously...
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Stam sold around 2001, some 10 years after the club became a Plc? So you're saying pre the the Glazers no one published their finances?
I don't get what angle you're trying to go with, but it seems a tad misinformed.
 

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Sell the bitch, or let him rot in the reserves. I’m not exactly thrilled with Jose but its becoming far too frequent at this club, players think they’re too good for us and we’re lucky to have them. Win us a couple of league titles, carry us to a champions league before you think you’re something speacial
 

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In most jobs you'd get in trouble for being critical of your boss or the company in public - if something needs airing you do it 'in house'

I like Pogba and it would be shit to see him leave but ultimately Man United will be fine without him
I get it but Jose can say whatever he wants...it's not fair
 

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If i was Pogba, id be pissed off too.

He deserves a team that aims to win, and not in 5 years once academy players have come through (which is a dream, not reality these days), and a club that is on the same page as its manager.

He deserves a club that went out and strengthened its defence in the summer.

He deserves a club that doesn't go what seems like a ninth season in a row without a right sided fecking attacker.

We know he CAN be one of, if not the best midfielders on the planet, so stop pissing about and let him do it.

Similar can be said for Sanchez and Lukaku too.
 

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Peak extrapolation going on in here. I'm waiting for someone to scream "Sell him!" after a player walks out of the tunnel not smiling pre match. Probably already happened tbh...
 

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He's very popular it seems so Mou pretty much only got the choice to make peace with him or else he will lose the dressing room.
How do you know how popular is he? Nobody knows that. He's definitely good pals with some players but maybe some other don't like him much.
 

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How do you know how popular is he? Nobody knows that. He's definitely good pals with some players but maybe some other don't like him much.
Everytime a player is asked that's what they say.
 

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Everytime a player is asked that's what they say.
Not that I'm refuting the point but they're hardly likely to say he's a dick are they :D.

I remember reading last season that he and Lukaku had fallen out and that a number of players thought he was a bit of a tit. Turns out the source was the fecking Metro though so that's as likely to be accurate as a Jamie Jackson transfer rumour.
 

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Not that I'm refuting the point but they're hardly likely to say he's a dick are they :D.

I remember reading last season that he and Lukaku had fallen out and that a number of players thought he was a bit of a tit. Turns out the source was the fecking Metro though so that's as likely to be accurate as a Jamie Jackson transfer rumour.
I like the way you think. Honestly, who the feck knows?
 

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So much drama. I pine for the days when we had superstars who were low maintenance (Becks and Ronaldo aside). After such a dominant performance from him, and a good result for the team, this just throws more fuel on the "United in meltdown" fire.
I don't think this was ever the case. Roy Keane spent the night in a police cell a couple nights before an FA cup final. Paul Scholes once refused to play in a league cup match for us. George Best's indiscretions are well publicised etc. The difference now is that every single incident is magnified due to social media and sensationalist news outlets looking for clicks.
 

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Tired of both of them, wouldn't be sad to see both of them feck off at this rate
 

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Roy Keane was popular too.

Think it's more about what Mourinho brings to the table and what Pogba brings to the table. The latter is definitely better to hang on to in the long-term.
 

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We should fine the fecker. That'll teach him for being a gobshite
He can leave next summer in all honesty. He seems very half arsed about United. Just put in a professional performance this season and leave for Coutinho money.

His void can easily be filled by two creative midfielders. Despite our struggles in that area, the market is actually stocked with gettable midfielders who could be quality for us. It is much easier buying midfield replacements than CBs or strikers for instance.
 

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Roy Keane was popular too.

Think it's more about what Mourinho brings to the table and what Pogba brings to the table. The latter is definitely better to hang on to in the long-term.
Was he? Near the end he was feared by all the youngsters and seen as a miserable so and so wasn't he? Maybe in the early days. He was my favourite player back then.
 

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Was he? Near the end he was feared by all the youngsters and seen as a miserable so and so wasn't he? Maybe in the early days. He was my favourite player at the time.
Well I'm going by what people have claimed, including Keane. We have no way of knowing for sure.
 

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Well I'm going by what people have claimed, including Keane. We have no way of knowing for sure.
Indeed. Who knows?
Maybe he's fun and all, making jokes and whatnot but not someone who they see as a leader or someone who should stand up for them. Just guessing like everyone.
No. The accounts I'm recalling state just that. There was an interview literally the other day where he was lauded for those things. Is it that hard to believe? Did you not see him at the world cup?
 

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/paul-pogba-reveals-what-michael-13070523

This has a slightly different version of the interview. Am I missing something obvious?
Some of that has definitely been taken out of context. When I read the original quotes it sounds like Pogbas talking about how it was easier with the French national team to be on the same page. But this says it's from speaking about the Utd dressing room as Captain.

One thing is for sure: all of football was bitter that we signed Pogba. They'll pick on and push anything to unsettle us. Something is amiss but we can't be sure it's as serious as is being made out. Pogba being given the armband is a good sign that Jose's offering the olive branch here. Hopefully it works itself out before the kid says anything that can't be retracted.
 

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Unfortunately he's following the example set by his manager. It's no surprise to see unnecessary and perhaps even unprofessional comments from players when Jose is doing the same most weeks. The message is clear; the media is there to protect your reputation and further your agenda, regardless of the impact on the team.
 

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He wants out,probably regrets coming back considering he's not challenging for any real honours.

That said,he's been mediocre for us mostly...Id sell him next summer and bring in two class midfielders.
 

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Football is full of absolute clowns including this guy including Jose

fecking cryptic nonsense literally have less and less time for footballs self entitled babies
 

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I don't think this was ever the case. Roy Keane spent the night in a police cell a couple nights before an FA cup final. Paul Scholes once refused to play in a league cup match for us. George Best's indiscretions are well publicised etc. The difference now is that every single incident is magnified due to social media and sensationalist news outlets looking for clicks.
All in all players are probably more professional than ever.