Pog is no Giggs/Scholes tbf.
Mourinho or Pogba?
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Jose and Pogba are both doing a bad job right now, at MUFC. He plays about 1 good game in 4.
The difference is that Pogba wants to leave and Jose wants to stay.
I'd rather keep Jose, but would prefer to keep both.
Pogba wants to leave and is pulling all the tricks possible, to get a move out of MUFC.
The difference is that Pogba wants to leave and Jose wants to stay.
I'd rather keep Jose, but would prefer to keep both.
Pogba wants to leave and is pulling all the tricks possible, to get a move out of MUFC.
After the last week of happenings, I think there should be another option. Both. Neither are going to be here long. Only way Pogba stays for many years is if we win the PL and go deep in the CL. We've got a snowball's chance in hell of doing that anytime soon.
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No, but he's shown the world what he's capable of at the WC. Perhaps someone like Zidane could get him to perform on a similar level.
Fire Mourinho right now and get an attacking manager in like Jardim. If Pogba is still crying come the end of the season, sell him for 300m.
Good luck with that.
The first part shouldn't be impossible. Regarding the second part, no way in hell we'd sell him for less than 200m.
Probably ,but i wouldn't even for a second think that Raiola would allow Pogba to settle down at the club without angling another move to fill his pocket. With or without Jose i firmly believe Pogba would not sign a new contract.
Zidane as interim til the end of the season would be incredible. Then, make a decision whether to extend or look at someone like Jardim. Zidane would surely have the players(Pogba/Martial) firing on all cylinders even though he might not influence our playing style too much.
I'm not going to take sides here and I think both of them need to stop all the drama and deliver on the pitch
Jose, I'm getting sick of the circus that surrounds Pogba. Constant rumours about him being unhappy and wanting to leave yet failing to live up to his potential when playing for us.
I can only remember 1 game were he was world class for us, against City, and even then it was only in glimpses.
I can only remember 1 game were he was world class for us, against City, and even then it was only in glimpses.
I wouldn't mind if they both left.
But if I HAD to pick one to leave, it would unfortunately be Jose.
I normally would back the manager and I actually like Jose but think a different manager can probably move us up a level whereas Pogba leaving wouldn't improve us if Jose still in charge.
But if I HAD to pick one to leave, it would unfortunately be Jose.
I normally would back the manager and I actually like Jose but think a different manager can probably move us up a level whereas Pogba leaving wouldn't improve us if Jose still in charge.
They should both either do their jobs or leave.
Hes WC performances were not superior to his best games for us. Also its 6 game tournament, closed off from the world. I struggle to see him stay that disciplined for any club
I feel that I need to repeat that every other week but Jardim isn't an attacking manager.
Jose. So sick of the jose excuse brigade on here....."progress"..
No one would pay £200 million
Mourinho. You've got to back the manager.
I'm in the camp that these players deserve most of the blame. Look at the last match - to a man they were all shithouses and a sad excuse of a team. People will say who's fault is that? There comes a point where it's certain players fault when you play that bad. Where is their pride? Why are they not willing to fight for the badge regardless of their troubles with the manager?
Jose hasn't helped himself recently, but the players must take blame also. Look, we have a bunch of players still here from the back-end of SAF-era. They're seeing off managers left, right and centre. Where does the buck stop?
I'm in the camp that these players deserve most of the blame. Look at the last match - to a man they were all shithouses and a sad excuse of a team. People will say who's fault is that? There comes a point where it's certain players fault when you play that bad. Where is their pride? Why are they not willing to fight for the badge regardless of their troubles with the manager?
Jose hasn't helped himself recently, but the players must take blame also. Look, we have a bunch of players still here from the back-end of SAF-era. They're seeing off managers left, right and centre. Where does the buck stop?
Tbh I accidentally pressed for mourinho as I misread the question. However not just today but thinking overall, Pogba can get fecked, 1 game out of 4 or 5 isn't enough for us. The talent is there but it also was with others in his year group.
He was given the armband!!! Ask any captain at Man Utd prior if they lacked attitude, sell him. Genuinely looking for Roy Keane quote/reply to this hahaha
Seriously we should cash in while we can, his agent is....
He was given the armband!!! Ask any captain at Man Utd prior if they lacked attitude, sell him. Genuinely looking for Roy Keane quote/reply to this hahaha
Seriously we should cash in while we can, his agent is....
Personally I'm in the "Both" camp because neither of them are actually doing a good job but I've seen some posters talking about Pogba's world cup performances as a reference point but most are forgetting the *Quality* of players he had around him in that France squad, it's not like he was the star man of the team like Maradona did years ago,rather he was part of a fully functioning team that allowed him to thrive, likewise at Juve. Yes Zidane is a great manager but is he really that *better* than José ? , Personally I don't think so but most of us United fans are blinded by the CL win that we forget to look at his performance in la Liga (a two horse race league). I believe the club knew fully well the type of manager Mourinho was before they signed him so they should back him and get the type of players he wants and clear out all the *deadwood* players . Zidane or Not our squad is not filled with worldclass quality players and there's only so much a manager can do with average players. Zidane would have to be a magician to win something with these group of players we currently have.
Why? Were you all for keeping Moyes too?
mourinho, both are creating a toxic atmosphere but at least with pogba there is that chance he may calm down if he enjoyed playing under a new manager, mourinho on the other hand is becoming such an ogre with his never ending unhappiness, whining and public attacks towards his own players.
I think we should replace our badge with a new one from the marketing goldmine that is Paul Pogba. Maybe a silhouette of him celebrating the World Cup whilst dabbing.
Neither - feck em both off
Moyes was shit, Mourinho isn't shit.
I used to believe that too, but my faith in Jose dies a little bit more pretty much every time I watch us play.
It's amazing how morally abject we have come, much like the rest of the so called football clubs.
We used to brag about how we were different. The manager is the fecking manager, the players are there to play. Pogba isn't the manager. He's a little shit who doesn't deserve half the respect he gets on here. Most of the hype is fuelled from what he has done outside of our great club.
He has become a scapegoat for a number of deep-rooted problems.
Look at what he has to deal with. He asks for players and doesn't get them, in past clubs he has thrived when he is given what he needs. For all we know most if not all signings could have been 3rd/4th choice on his lists or not even on the list at all!
Then let him cry in the stands until 2021..
Weird how Martial, Mbappe, Lemar, Falcao and a dozen others have flourished under him then. Can't say I've been watching too much of Monaco however, are they playing a deep defense and solely rely on counters like ourselves against small teams?
Keep Pogba. I think he has some right to be dissatisfied. I know he makes a lot of money etc. but he received criticism out of nowhere after winning the world cup, was often pointed out by Mourinho in the media, and the team are playing terribly.
I have faith that Pogba could be excellent consistently if things change, but not sure about Mourinho. I think it'll be the same if we stick with him.
I have faith that Pogba could be excellent consistently if things change, but not sure about Mourinho. I think it'll be the same if we stick with him.
It's not weird at all, all the players that you mentioned are excellent in counter attack set ups. And yes Monaco plays with a deep defensive line but try to break forward as fast as possible, Jardim also puts an emphasis on attacking set pieces.
Well it really depends on your definition of recent evidence.
If you look at the last game then Chris Hughton is better than Mourinho.
If you look at last season, Mourino surpasses Pochettino, Klopp, Conte and believe it or not the great Moyes.
I've been Mourinho defender (online, not on the pitch, of course) and I still see no reason to sack him right now. But if it came down to one or the other I might just let Mourinho and not Pogba go. Provided, of course, that we have an adequate replacement in hand such as Zidane, ready to lace his boots.
I just can't blame Mourinho for the catastrophic mistakes by Bailly and Lindelof against Brighton, although the systemic problems we've been talking about for a couple of years remain unresolved.
I just can't blame Mourinho for the catastrophic mistakes by Bailly and Lindelof against Brighton, although the systemic problems we've been talking about for a couple of years remain unresolved.
Sell Pogba. You can't have players coming out on top in disputes with managers (as a Chelsea fan I know).
Then sack Jose. He's one of the greatest managers ever but he's not the right man for this particular job.
Get someone like Pochetino in and let him spend the Pogba money on Ericsson.
Everyone wins. Pogba gets his move to Spain, Jose gets a fat pay off and Spurs get screwed.
Then sack Jose. He's one of the greatest managers ever but he's not the right man for this particular job.
Get someone like Pochetino in and let him spend the Pogba money on Ericsson.
Everyone wins. Pogba gets his move to Spain, Jose gets a fat pay off and Spurs get screwed.
That's the only reason you elaborated that plan.
It's definitely a valid reason to put on a list.That's the only reason you elaborated that plan.
Yeah, it's not like he bought both and trained them for two years before the game.
I really don’t get why it’s a choice of Mou or Pogba. I just have a feeling that neither is going anywhere just yet - and i’d be happy with that. Think it is more a case of the Board versus the rest. If Mou and Pogba could unite and vent their frustration at the Board and owners then we might see some movement. It is not beyond the realms of possibility.