I think you're right. It looks like hes going in for 2 handshakes but Mourinho has his hands in his pockets and then even when Pogba ignores it Mourinho says something and then he responds. Pogba runs away and then Mourinho follows him and a discussion continues?
Pogba told the club he wants to leave
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I just watched again. Right before Pogba gets to him you can see Jose's right arm raised before Carrick pans in front. Pogba shakes but Jose does some Ninja move and brings his arm down quickly.
In theory that sounds plausibly workable but Pogba and his agent have shown themselves to be quite disrespectful of the club and the manager. You might hate his guts but is there really a need to mouth off and refuse to kill story about moving away? Getting rid of Mou before Pogba sets a very dangerous precedent.
I don’t blame Pogba for saying what he’s saying. Mourinho now needs to go. I’ve been a big fan of Mourinho and i have defended him as much as I can. Now, enough is enough. It’s either Mourinho and Pogba. I pick Pogba every time
Yep, there is someone who shakes Mourinho's hand before Pogba arrives so Mourinho his right arm out ready. When Pogba comes out to do the same he retracts his arm and puts it into his right pocket. Pogba looks at him bemused/pissed off and then Mourinho says something and the discussions continue.
Man why the feck would Jose do that. I hope I'm not making a big deal out of this because this is pathetic.
Your wrong he does shake his hand, look at pogba's hand movement it makes two breaks in motion, before Pogba turns around, because of something Jose says, Pogba responds with watch who your talking to, they move towards the crowd, Jose say's something and Pogba say i haven't done nothing, Pereira then nods his head to acknowledge Pogba, at the same time Rashford walks between Pogba and Mourinho, shakes someone's hand, doesn't shake Pereira hand, shakes the person next to Pereira hand, Pereira moves to the right, and there's a feeble handshake between him and Rashford, then Pereira moves away from the crowd.
More telling is the facial expression of the number 54 and the black guy in front of Pogba, wiitch is motionless, so what was said at the stage of the conversation was not anything damning.
Another thing to watch for is after Mourinho walks away, after the handshake, Pogba and the guy in the bomber jacket, stare at each other.
I' m not sure he loves United, maybe a little bit, he loves fame and fortune he is getting at United. If you love a club, you give your best and don't chat shit with press. It is like marriage, for good and for bad. You show your love and comitment when it rains, not only when it is sunshine.
What do you think Pep would do if he made that mistake before Wolves scored?What do you think Pogba will do to other manager if he manages to get rid of Mourinho and stays at United. It will be green light for him and any other player to show their "power" when things don't go thier way! We will turn into RM and Chelsea. It needs to be killed before it grows. Players need to be told by the club to work and play best they can, and zip it up. If they have a problem talk about it behind closed doors not to press to fuel the fire and feed their agendas. Show them who is the boss. The Club. Not fecking players.
There will have been no fall-out. Pogba has most likely had the vice-captaincy taken away from him as result of the comments to the press over the weekend. Call it petty if you wish but rightly or wrongly it is Mourhino's way of showing who is boss. I think during the tough times the club is currently facing this is imperative. No doubt Pogba, although somewhat aggrieved at first, has now fully accepted the decision and will come back stronger as a result. Cerrtainly no one should be doubting the quality of Jose's man management skills at this stage in the game.
Under other managers, Pogba is a proven player. It's no coincidence he is having below par performances for us, Jose is a dinosaur manager, the game has overtaken him. And as for nobody is bigger than the club.......The very reason that Jose and his all about me, me, me ego should leave.
This.
Footballers are overgrown children. They're young and their whole life is about kicking a ball. Things that might seem trivial to us are obviously going to affect them more.
There was a reason Fergie let him go. That man, above all, was a fantastic judge of character. Goodbye.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Right now Fergie and Sir Bobby are proving to be 100% correct. SAF warned us about Raiola and Sir Bobby was clear as can be about the impact of hiring Mourinho.
We need people who understand our club and the man who seems to be making these decisions, Woodward doesn't have a fecking clue.
Get rid of him and mourinho. No one should disrespect the manager like that and stay at the club.
Could nearly forgive pogba if he was playing well each week but right now he is behind fellaini performance wise.
He plays for Man United and is paid handsomely should shut up and do his talking on the pitch or feck off.
Could nearly forgive pogba if he was playing well each week but right now he is behind fellaini performance wise.
He plays for Man United and is paid handsomely should shut up and do his talking on the pitch or feck off.
I can see where you're coming from here, his attitude needs an improvement, as well as the PR of the club in general. Mou should not be attacking players in the press, and Pogba should be focussed on backing the club more than backing himself against Mou. I prefer him to stay partially out of spite, I feel like it would come back to punish us to give him up to another club. That being said, I'm starting to come around to disliking him.
Next up will be pogba not happy with the team selection because he still isn't playing well enough and getting the next manager sacked rather than taking responsibility himself
Your are right!
Pogba, tried to force SAF to play him. SAF told him he is the boss and he should wait. If Pogba had any patience and loyalty, he would listen to his manager and wait. But no. Pogba believed he knew better than Fergie. He was disgusted at Fergie's choice, he said it so directly:
http://redrants.com/pogba-disgusted-by-fergies-choice/
The same thing happened with Mourinho.
It was a mistake the club brought back Pogba. Who's decision was that? Woodward?
I tend to give the press no credibility and generally go with the exact opposite of what they say. I may not end up with the truth but I am generally closer to it than they are most of the time.
Oh, so is De Gea not world class then?
How anyone could be this blind to what Pogba is all about is astonishing, this guy is sending Instagram posts while Watching his team mates lose a game !
He is a vile self centred individual he’s undermining the club and the manager at every opportunity.
I was so excited when we got him now I honestly can’t wait to see the back of him .
Spain or Italy and slow paced football in a team that dominates a 2/3 team league will suit him he is not quick enough or clever enough for the prem .
Blame Jose all you want but he would be the same with any manager because he knows he can’t do all his tricks in this lge he is a liability spreading poison all around him .
No one knows when did he post it. It was halftime when the video recorded, we were 1-0 lead. Regardlessl He should've taken it down, yes.
He’s a goalkeeper. To which you will probably reply, ‘so what, he’s still a player’, and then if I engage, we will go back and forth for a few posts on semantics ‘yea but you said we only had ONE’.
Long and short is you know what I mean, let’s not do this.
The point is he can’t even watch his supposed mates play without getting on social media to self publicise
Brilliant. People should follow your lead on this.
He did know better than Fergie, the man was playing Rafael and Park Ji Sung as CM's. Not the point, I know.
LOL you talk as if this kind of things happens everywhere, it doesn't. And no not every player can get away with this, it's only the Messis, Ronaldos and Hazards of the football world get away with this and they can do this because they are big players and are irreplaceable just like Pogba is for us.
And he went to Juventus and built his career up quite well. It was a great career move.
If he had stayed with Fergie I bet he could have learned him a thing or 2 about being disciplined in midfield and how to cope with fast paced league.
Or he could be playing for Blackburn right now.
The article on Telegraph is interesting, because it says Pogba wants to leave, regardless of the club keeping Jose or not
I think you’re being very disingenuous to Messi, Ronaldo and Hazard. Those players have single handedly won their teams matches on a regular basis. What the hell has Pogba done at United to be deemed irreplaceable?
Haha what? Do you really believe this? Pogba is probably the most popular guy in the changing room. He is the guy that absolutely everyone turns to he's best friends with everyone. There's so many videos of pogba being the life of the team.
Pogba or Mourinho?
I pick neither. Both can leave and we can have a fresh start with an attack minded manager using the Pogba money to form a new midfield.
I pick neither. Both can leave and we can have a fresh start with an attack minded manager using the Pogba money to form a new midfield.
Imagine not trusting Fergie with youngsters.
Fergie always rated him and wanted him to stay. He just thought he wasn't ready yet. He would have played him sooner or later.
I think they’ll both be gone this time next season - I would imagine most (if not all) the “Pogba wants out” stories since the summer are originating with his agent. Pogba’s gonna move again soon whatever we do I think.
They also said he had already agreed terms with Barca in summer before asking Ed to leave before Leicester game but couldn't get his wish.
Think he has made his mind already. Matter of when not if now, Jan or summer.
Mourinho should bring back Rafael just to play him in midfield ahead of Pogba again.
Woodward said that the deal to buy Pogba had been in the works for two years, which pre-dates Mourinho by some time.
Fergie was wrong. Pogba was ready, as his immediate stint at Juve proved that. It's ok being wrong though. Fergie was and is still United god. But we all knew that one thing Fergie had a blind spot on, was on upgrading the midfield.