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Carrick: 'I left Rome but I don't think Rome has ever really left me'
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
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SAF absolutely ruthless there. Didn't treat the players with kiddie gloves at all. Miss the great man 
You must have put your mansion and grandmother on Barcelona to win it then right?
The 2011 one hurt the most. To see the biggest club in the world win it at their country's most iconic stadium would've been lived long in my memory, anyway.
2009 hurt a lot. We could have beaten them. I remember eto getting that poxy goal and then they just kept the ball all the time. Could have been so different.
2011 was brutal, in that i knew we would be beaten well.
2011 was brutal, in that i knew we would be beaten well.
We did that in 1968 at the real Wembley, but I get what you're saying.
Depression my arse.
The way we started that game. Totally dominating Barca with beautiful play and a high press. It was 5 shots to 0 and 10 min in and Barca has their first chance and scored. We could of had 2 at that point. Ronaldo's freekick that was bobbled should of been put away on the rebound. And Ronaldo had another chance that just missed. Not that long range rocket shot he had which if was on target who knows.
When they scored that first goal I was so gutted. And I really think it knocked the wind out of us because we never recovered after that. That game was one game that really hurt to lose and I was gutted for days.
If we scored that first goal the game would of totally been diffrent. And I think that's why it hurt so much.
When they scored that first goal I was so gutted. And I really think it knocked the wind out of us because we never recovered after that. That game was one game that really hurt to lose and I was gutted for days.
If we scored that first goal the game would of totally been diffrent. And I think that's why it hurt so much.
So we couldn't have beaten them at all then.
Seems a very mild form of depression. The stronger forms of depression can destroy individuals and their ability to live meaningful lives.
But those defeats were horrible. In hindsight those were great times, but no defeats have felt worse for me purely because of how that Barca team used to school other teams. Horrible, horrible games to watch as the opposition. Everytime you get the ball they surround you and suffocate your ability to function as a team. And then you watch them pass the ball and dance around you for another 5 minutes. Urgh.
But those defeats were horrible. In hindsight those were great times, but no defeats have felt worse for me purely because of how that Barca team used to school other teams. Horrible, horrible games to watch as the opposition. Everytime you get the ball they surround you and suffocate your ability to function as a team. And then you watch them pass the ball and dance around you for another 5 minutes. Urgh.
As I remember it, United were slight favorites. Both sides had really good sides at the time, but we won it the year before. Also Barca struggled to get past the semi final, where we wrapped it up in the first 10 minutes of the second leg.
Barcelona were strong favorites for the 2011 final though.
Also that goal by eto'o still can't believe that Vidic allowed him to the inside like that. That was poor poor defending. Nothing brilliant from eto'o.
To see us let in such a sloppy goal like that after the way we started. You can't give away easy goals. It's like they never even had to work for it. This thread had sure brought up some bad memories and feelings. Haha. Forgot how pissed I was at that game. Felt like we threw it away. And i am only a fan, can only imagine what a player felt like. Feel for Carrick. That must of been tough.
To see us let in such a sloppy goal like that after the way we started. You can't give away easy goals. It's like they never even had to work for it. This thread had sure brought up some bad memories and feelings. Haha. Forgot how pissed I was at that game. Felt like we threw it away. And i am only a fan, can only imagine what a player felt like. Feel for Carrick. That must of been tough.
That first goal from Eto killed us. The game was pretty open before that and We had chances before that, albeit being only for 10 mins. Once they scored, we were chasing shadows in the field.
Should had been 2,3-0 10mins in..
It is a fair critisism but not for that time and not for tha players. In 2006 he signed Carrick and 2007 he signed Anderson and Hargreaves. In the summer of 2008 we had a midfield of Scholes, Carrick, a talented Anderson, a fighter in Fletcher and an experienced Hargreaves. His mistake was not Giggs and Scholes imo, but insisting on our footballing hospital -Hargreaves, Ando and Fletcher- and talentless youth. I understand why up till 2010 he hadnt buy any cm, but after it was one of his biggest mistakes not to.
PS under the right circumstances Giggs till 2014 could still dominate games, something that Gibson, Cleverly, Hargreaves never did. Carrick did not do it for almost 2 years, when his was truly hideous -from 2010 till 2012.
If all those wrong decisions were given the tie would've still been close. Barcelona were definitely lucky and I guess you need luck to win a CL.
Maybe we shouldn't have faced them in 2011 final either. Pepe was wrongly sent off in the clasico semi final match and Barcelona may not have won 2-0 if the sending off didn't happen.
If you watch the game, right after they score that goal a comedy of errors ensues. Vidic back passes no where near vds. And it starts from there. Confidence totally gone in the boys, up till they scored we look like a completely different team. The faces on Carrick and Rio, they look totally shocked and Ronaldo looks like he could cry after that goal went in.
All this "that shouldn't have happened, they shouldn't have been there" is all neither here or there. Everything that happens in life is what should have happened, because it happened. There's no point going over old ground and saying it shouldn't, events in life, including football matches, only get one shot and once it happens, that's what should have happened.
I knew we were walking right into a beating that game. Not to say it didn't hurt but it was predictable. I watched them despatch of Bayern in 30 mins and beat the white out of Madrid at their stadium. It was all really new at the time, the beginning of this modern football we see now all over the place. It honestly looked like no one knew how to approach matches against them.
What pissed me off is that it was quite obvious we got schooled technically but then we decided to go build teams that are more physical. At the time football was quite physical but Pep got rid of all that. We were supposed to learn from those games but we didn't.
What pissed me off is that it was quite obvious we got schooled technically but then we decided to go build teams that are more physical. At the time football was quite physical but Pep got rid of all that. We were supposed to learn from those games but we didn't.
Eh ?
They didnt actually keep the ball as well as we remember it. We had 46% first half and 54% second half. 49% overall. But it like 30% to us.
Their goals just came at such great moments for them. One just after our good start and the other just as when we were getting on the ball.
I have never rewatched that game but my abiding memory is that the first goal was critical. If we had converted one of those chances in the first 10 minutes, Barcelona (who were not yet the legendary side they would become) may have taken a knock to their confidence while we could have exploited our brilliant counter-attacking abity.
Looking back though, the real regret is that United made no effort to try to close the gap. Instead we sold our best player and let the midfield rot even further.
Looking back though, the real regret is that United made no effort to try to close the gap. Instead we sold our best player and let the midfield rot even further.
Sad to read this. Not nice .
This is not surprising. The two seasons after was probably the most criticism he received for his form. Don't think he really recovered his mojo until we made that run to the 2011 final.
That 2009 team, if we played that final ten times against Barcelona, i think we would win four times and draw two or three. That fecking goal by Eto killed us.
Karius isn't alone!
Until SAF’s last season imo, which was his best overall.
He did have a couple of good matches ln the second half of the 10-11 season. Mainly the CL tie va Chelsea at Stamford Bridge which I thought was his best match for us.
He was great pretty much all of 11/12 as well (at least when he started playing). There wasn't much difference or any between his form in 11/12 and 12/13.
Unfortunately we didn't win the title so he didn't get any recognition, and Scholes' return from retirement stole his limelight.
Also after beating them 12 months before
Cant remember how much I watched of Barca that season. Definitely watched them a fair bit, but didn't think they were going to destroy us.
This and that final the following year without Berbatov really frustrates me.
We could do better.
We could do better.
If we had played the same team in that final against Barca that we played in the 07/08 final, we would've won. Too much tinkering from SAF, and injuries to Hargreaves and Brown if I remember correctly (and Fletch's bogus red in the semi).
I guess it just shows you how much these lads care about football.From the outside they make look like aloof millionaires who don’t give a damn...but they care deeply about their football...
I started following United in 2006, and until that final, i always felt that our players (even when losing) were in full control of what was happening into the football pitch. The first time that, as a United fan, i felt vulnerable. I guess the players were feeling the same.
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I can't wait for a potential round of 16 meeting this season.
This was actually the most damaging game to me as well. At the final whistle I started crying and I’m not a cryer. I’ve had friends and family die before and after this and never shed a tear, but for whatever reason this final got to me.
It started off so well. Alves and Abidal ruled out due to suspension and the start we made. Never thought we were losing this game. Complete difference from 2011 where I never thought we had a chance.
It started off so well. Alves and Abidal ruled out due to suspension and the start we made. Never thought we were losing this game. Complete difference from 2011 where I never thought we had a chance.
I can't believe a club of our stature has only won the CL thrice. Fergie for all his greatness and his great United teams has only won it twice. We really should have won it a couple more times. The Porto and Dortmund knockouts at OT were more hurting for me. We could really have gone all the way in that two years
Agreed. I think there was something more sinister than just a bad day at the office for the ref in that Chelsea game. United-Chelsea part II wasn't as sexy to UEFA as their favorite team against United, who are obviously the most popular and at that time best club.
Chelsea getting screwed probably screwed us looking back.
This. Had porto not gotten that goal in the last minute, we would have won. Should have hammered Dortmund as well.
On the topic of devastating losses leading to depression: if the impossible doesn't happen in istanbul, milan would have 1 more CL, United would have 1 more CL(2007, you would have beaten milan), and liverpool and barcelona would both have 1 less...
1997 even though a very young team I fancied us and didn't really know much about Dortmund so that was tough to take as was going out to Monaco the following year. I felt we were fairly poor in 2004 so didn't have massive confidence we could win it but we did get shafted and the way the tournament opened up we could have had a shot.
I think the years I was most gutted was 2000. The way we'd won it in 1999 and I didn't feel Real Madrid were that special back then. We played them very well at their place and then just capitulated at home. 2007 was tough because we played so well that season but capitulated at Milan partly due to Ferdinand being the only first choice defender available. It wrecked my head that we were done by a team that's entire season was based around Champions League and they were playing Liverpool again. Leverkusen in 2002 was tough too. Let's face it; that was a golden opportunity. A potential classic final at Hampden vs. Real Madrid and we lost on away goals (without ever trailing) to a decent but far from special team.
I think us along with Juventus are the two biggest underachievers in history. We really should have at least another one probably more. Liverpool aren't a two European Cup's better than us club. I guess Juve fans feel even stronger that they have only two and Milan have seven.