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Better than Jose? At the moment that is a stab in the dark. Also it looks like he is turning the ship around slowly but surely - I for one hope he succeeds here!With a better manager yes
Better than Jose? At the moment that is a stab in the dark. Also it looks like he is turning the ship around slowly but surely - I for one hope he succeeds here!With a better manager yes
If he’d just got in with it there wouldn’t be anything to turn around.Better than Jose? At the moment that is a stab in the dark. Also it looks like he is turning the ship around slowly but surely - I for one hope he succeeds here!
You can't think like that, if the season is not going that well, we need to correct the course no matter what. Trying to sack Jose should not make the club forget about the ultimate objectives to fight for the title or rank correctly for the next season. And I think Jose is showing something with the players. Let them try to be as best as they can.If he’d just got in with it there wouldn’t be anything to turn around.
I don’t see why he would be given anything to spend in January, in fact it would be idiotic to invest large sums of money when he is unlikely to be our manager next season.
The money either should’ve been spent in the summer or should be saved for next season.
This, you fans in here moaning about us spending (supposedly) are the worst. You care more about disliking Jose than the clubs success. There's a good chance we're in a fight for top 4 and securing the CL place, all you should care about is improving our chances to do so.You can't think like that, if the season is not going that well, we need to correct the course no matter what. Trying to sack Jose should not make the club forget about the ultimate objectives to fight for the title or rank correctly for the next season. And I think Jose is showing something with the players. Let them try to be as best as they can.
Icardi for £70m is as likely as you signing Salah from liverpoolIcardi might be a bit of a stretch, but it won't be outside the realms of possiblity.
Don't think we can say that about Immobile. Yeah he wasn't great at Dortmund, and we didn't see enough of him at Sevilla to make a proper assessment, but he's playing better than he ever has at Lazio. No reason why he couldn't continue that form. I reckon we would get Werner for £70mil.
This is the 6th time the ship has been “turning”.Better than Jose? At the moment that is a stab in the dark. Also it looks like he is turning the ship around slowly but surely - I for one hope he succeeds here!
It's not, but whatever.Icardi for £70m is as likely as you signing Salah from liverpool
Immobile's problem in Dortmund wasn't football, it was the city and the country
The briefing mentions that funds are available only if the players are as well. Which means, we aren't probably signing anyone. But if someone like Koulibaly becomes available (Or Varane, to quote Woodward, lol)...we will buy them regardless of the manager since no manager would say no to players of their quality.If he’d just got in with it there wouldn’t be anything to turn around.
I don’t see why he would be given anything to spend in January, in fact it would be idiotic to invest large sums of money when he is unlikely to be our manager next season.
The money either should’ve been spent in the summer or should be saved for next season.
That's precisely why this is a pointless season. Jose lacks both motivation and ability to do anything significant with us. In the CL, we are like a rich man's Benfica or Porto -- decent history but fodder for the big clubs and occasionally even bullied about by the likes of Sevilla. In the league, there are 5 teams playing better and atleast 4 of them with better managers in terms of having a vision and direction. Already out of one cup.This, you fans in here moaning about us spending (supposedly) are the worst. You care more about disliking Jose than the clubs success. There's a good chance we're in a fight for top 4 and securing the CL place, all you should care about is improving our chances to do so.
We evidently need investment in certain positions and I'm glad the board aren't writing the season off in some petty feud with the manager.
That depends of the selling club. IF they're looking to make a huge profit on a player, then January is the proper time to do it.Just seems like a "look how right I was with Maguire and Martial" repackaging of the Woodward brief we saw in September.
There won't be any more players available in January than there were in the summer.
It is. And you're Manchester and England. Closer to Dortmund and Germany than ItalyIt's not, but whatever.
We aren't in Dortmund or Germany.
Considering Zaha said living in Manchester drove him to depression, I'd rather not.Alderwiereld & Zaha please Jose... Be a good gift for our next manager in the next season.
Sometimes small changes might have big effects.This clearly a briefing by the club, and it's meant to appease the fans.
It's ridiculous to think that if we get one defender or one striker we suddenly will click into gear.
Well put.We hear these leaks ahead of every transfer window. I think its just Ed trying to deflect criticism from himself by chucking big numbers around, which a lot of fans lap up. For me personally though, I have little faith in our clubs ability to pick up the right players, so big numbers don't excite me any more. It just suggests to me we're going to continue our habit of trying to fix our problems by just spunking cash with no clear plan in mind.
You can't think like that, if the season is not going that well, we need to correct the course no matter what. Trying to sack Jose should not make the club forget about the ultimate objectives to fight for the title or rank correctly for the next season. And I think Jose is showing something with the players. Let them try to be as best as they can.
What's this? Do my eyes deceive me? Some common sense in a sea of irrational emotions?This, you fans in here moaning about us spending (supposedly) are the worst. You care more about disliking Jose than the clubs success. There's a good chance we're in a fight for top 4 and securing the CL place, all you should care about is improving our chances to do so.
We evidently need investment in certain positions and I'm glad the board aren't writing the season off in some petty feud with the manager.
Sad as it may be, I think you're probably right. It happens practically every season.We hear these leaks ahead of every transfer window. I think its just Ed trying to deflect criticism from himself by chucking big numbers around, which a lot of fans lap up. For me personally though, I have little faith in our clubs ability to pick up the right players, so big numbers don't excite me any more. It just suggests to me we're going to continue our habit of trying to fix our problems by just spunking cash with no clear plan in mind.
Is it really common sense tho? I think the poster before speaks more sense than that post you quoted. We don’t really know what the full story with Jose is, are the board planning to let him go at the end of the season or aren’t they. If they are, what is the point in allowing him 100mil (if true) to spend on his players. It would also depend on who he is targeting and if it’s the “right” player for United. If it’s say 100 mil for Skriniar,Koulibaly or someone like Varane then I’m sure the board would give him money as those guys will be of a future benefit to the club. If it’s a 100 mil for him to buy whoever he wants like say a Willian, Peresic, Boateng and the likes then it’s not sensible at all.What's this? Do my eyes deceive me? Some common sense in a sea of irrational emotions?
100% agreeWe hear these leaks ahead of every transfer window. I think its just Ed trying to deflect criticism from himself by chucking big numbers around, which a lot of fans lap up. For me personally though, I have little faith in our clubs ability to pick up the right players, so big numbers don't excite me any more. It just suggests to me we're going to continue our habit of trying to fix our problems by just spunking cash with no clear plan in mind.
Have to think like that, if you want to correct things and salvage the season sack the manager, if want to give him the season fair enough but desperately spending money in January should t and won’t be an option.You can't think like that, if the season is not going that well, we need to correct the course no matter what. Trying to sack Jose should not make the club forget about the ultimate objectives to fight for the title or rank correctly for the next season. And I think Jose is showing something with the players. Let them try to be as best as they can.
Your post is arguing against Jose rather than assessing what our side needs though.Have to think like that, if you want to correct things and salvage the season sack the manager, if want to give him the season fair enough but desperately spending money in January should t and won’t be an option.
I don’t think he has shown much, he has caused unnecessary problems and only partially/temporarily resolved them.
At the end of the day we all know how Mourinho behaves, know the type of players he wants and how long he lasts at clubs. The time to back him has been and gone, he makes do with what he has now and either earns his salary or gets sacked.
Of course he has to prove himself, he is doing a very poor job this season. Out of the title race before it even started and good chance of not even making top four. The club needs better tactics, better coaching and a better style of play more than a splurge in January.Your post is arguing against Jose rather than assessing what our side needs though.
If the club still see Jose as our best option then we need to back him. No point in saying he has to prove himself if the board doesn't need that proof.
Woody playing Football Manager with a real life football club?Castles saying the club have given him a list of players THEY want to sign...
Meanwhile, on Albert Square
I feel exactly the same. We are awful at spending money.We hear these leaks ahead of every transfer window. I think its just Ed trying to deflect criticism from himself by chucking big numbers around, which a lot of fans lap up. For me personally though, I have little faith in our clubs ability to pick up the right players, so big numbers don't excite me any more. It just suggests to me we're going to continue our habit of trying to fix our problems by just spunking cash with no clear plan in mind.
Ain’t that the truth.We hear these leaks ahead of every transfer window. I think its just Ed trying to deflect criticism from himself by chucking big numbers around, which a lot of fans lap up. For me personally though, I have little faith in our clubs ability to pick up the right players, so big numbers don't excite me any more. It just suggests to me we're going to continue our habit of trying to fix our problems by just spunking cash with no clear plan in mind.
But that's your opinion. If Jose is backed it will show he has won back the confidence of the board. It wouldn't be the Utd board backing a manager that they're not sure of like it's being made out like on here.Of course he has to prove himself, he is doing a very poor job this season. Out of the title race before it even started and good chance of not even making top four. The club needs better tactics, better coaching and a better style of play more than a splurge in January.
We know how the club think, they stick by the manager because they don’t know what else to do. His job is under threat and will be for rest of season unless there is dramatic improvement and he finishes in top 4. There is a reason he wasn’t backed in the summer and that will only be reinforced in January.
He won’t be backed, talk of spending in January is just PR, players won’t be available and manager probably is unlikely to keep his job beyond this season.But that's your opinion. If Jose is backed it will show he has won back the confidence of the board. It wouldn't be the Utd board backing a manager that they're not sure of like it's being made out like on here.
Jose getting funds answers all our questions
Because the board realised they fecked it. They played with fire and got burnt.Load of shite, IMO.
Why now instead of in the Summer? It's too late. This season is gone. If they're worried about getting in the Champion's League at all, then they won't back José, they'll sack him in the next four weeks and back his replacement. I think the board had already decided in the Summer that José isn't a long-term plan, hence a reluctance to back him. I think it is almost guaranteed he won't see a fourth season in charge, so we won't see a heavy investment in him.
I'd be surprised if we did more in January than sell Darmian and loan out one of Pereira or McTominay. I'd bet quite a bit on us not signing anybody, other than maybe a new deal for someone like Smalling.
Tell you what, after we sack Jose Mourinho, let's destroy another manager myth by giving the new manager a contract only to refuse to back him in the market only months later, making his job harder, then sack him for not being able to overcome the odds. That'll show them all how crap our next manager is too.Load of shite, IMO.
Why now instead of in the Summer? It's too late. This season is gone. If they're worried about getting in the Champion's League at all, then they won't back José, they'll sack him in the next four weeks and back his replacement. I think the board had already decided in the Summer that José isn't a long-term plan, hence a reluctance to back him. I think it is almost guaranteed he won't see a fourth season in charge, so we won't see a heavy investment in him.
I'd be surprised if we did more in January than sell Darmian and loan out one of Pereira or McTominay. I'd bet quite a bit on us not signing anybody, other than maybe a new deal for someone like Smalling.