Yup.
Mauro Icardi | Performances
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Precisely.He actually routinely averages one of the highest conversion rates in Europe. Normally a limited Inter side who create little and Icardi scoring a lot.
Your general point still does stand though. No striker would have major joy in our system which is so far from cohesive consistent attacking football.
He's not what we needed. He's very clinical but we don't create loads of chances and if he's asked to drop and help in build he'll flop. I think he be will great in a team like Madrid for example.
There's a big lack of top strikers available in th market so I will stick with Lukaku as a stop gap for few more years till someone that's really an upgrade is available. Lukaku is having his flaws but he's doing the job currently to a pretty decent degree and don't see anyone bette around. It's inevitable we will have to upgrade but Icardi isn't the answer.
There's a big lack of top strikers available in th market so I will stick with Lukaku as a stop gap for few more years till someone that's really an upgrade is available. Lukaku is having his flaws but he's doing the job currently to a pretty decent degree and don't see anyone bette around. It's inevitable we will have to upgrade but Icardi isn't the answer.
Tbf, Inter seem to have a decent wing play and provide him with some decent crosses, away from other crap areas.
The highest last year with 29 goals from 101 shots. That is serious going when you look at some of the names behind him on that list and how far behind they are.
https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...version-rate-of-the-top-10-scorers-in-europe/
"Create little chances". Not sure I can agree with that. Just look at the below.
Club.........................Total Shots....PenaltyArea.....SixYardBox
Manchester City...............665..............355................56
Napoli............................656..............331................44
Roma.............................643..............330................50
Liverpool........................638..............347................44
Tottenham......................623..............319................37
Fiorentina.......................619..............317................21
AC Milan.........................610..............266................47
Chelsea..........................606..............324................36
Arsenal..........................594..............327................42
Atlanta...........................579..............336................46
Inter Milan......................572..............307................43
Juventus.........................554..............266................34
Lazio..............................553..............293................40
Manchester United...........512..............255................44
Same list as above just ordered by Penalty Area shots instead of Total shots.
Club.........................Total Shots....PenaltyArea.....SixYardBox
Manchester City...............665..............355................56
Liverpool........................638..............347................44
Atlanta...........................579..............336................46
Napoli............................656..............331................44
Roma.............................643..............330................50
Arsenal..........................594..............327................42
Chelsea..........................606..............324................36
Tottenham......................623..............319................37
Fiorentina.......................619..............317................21
Inter Milan......................572..............307................43
Lazio..............................553..............293................40
AC Milan.........................610..............266................47
Juventus.........................554..............266................34
Manchester United...........512..............255................44
Granted they aren't near the top of these lists but they've actually created more shots than Juventus and us. It's actually that they're either not clinical enough in front of goal or taking shots when they shouldn't. But I wouldn't say they're creating little. They're also way above us on Key Passes last year (United = 377, Inter = 456).
@RedSky - Looks like word vomit on my phone screen but I’ll take your word for it.
In any case, Icardi; potent finisher. Not what we need but a top player anyway.
In any case, Icardi; potent finisher. Not what we need but a top player anyway.
Every time I see highlights from the Inter game he can't hit the barn door, managers here see the goals and think how good he is while he would be even more frustrating then Lukaku, not talking about his overall game which could be also poor. We need someone better if we want an upgrade
He is actually pretty clinical, has one of the best conversion rates in Europe
What's even more impressive is that it isn't a one off. He has been putting up similar numbers for 3 or 4 seasons now.
His conversion rate is higher as he doesnt shoot from outside the box or take chances from tight angles like Kane takes. In a way you can say that's good as he doesn't waste possession but I want striker to be like Kane who tries from tight angles.
How much is he likely cost?
He had a release clause of €110m in the summer however that’s expired now and Inter are trying to increase it to €160m with another renewal. I don’t think Inter would be willing to negotiate and Icardi seems to love the club. If he was to leave, Real would be a more likely destination!
Inter should just pay all of their opponents to wear juventus kits when they play. I've seen Icardi absolutely dominate juventus backline several times. Against almost everyone else he's invisible outside the box and does very little for the team
Probably only second to Cristiano inside the box though
Probably only second to Cristiano inside the box though
Wish we signed him ahead of Lukaku. Hes quality. Not too late, but can only see him going to Madrid sadly.
I did look but I don't think he has a thread, just delete this if he does.
I've seen his name come up a lot recently on here as a potential target or an upgrade on Lukaku for you guys.
I watch no Italian football and have no idea how good he is. I gather from the little I've read about him that he's a poacher, and doesn't contribute much outside of goals (this is just what I've read). Could he do the job for a top team? Would you guys want him at United?
I've seen his name come up a lot recently on here as a potential target or an upgrade on Lukaku for you guys.
I watch no Italian football and have no idea how good he is. I gather from the little I've read about him that he's a poacher, and doesn't contribute much outside of goals (this is just what I've read). Could he do the job for a top team? Would you guys want him at United?
Well , we even don't have a poacher , so whatever he is , I like him
He is more of a penalty box striker. Very lethal goal poacher.
However his game is not dynamic. You won't find him involved much in the build up but when the ball is around the penalty box, he comes alive.
A very good chicarito would be my guess.
However his game is not dynamic. You won't find him involved much in the build up but when the ball is around the penalty box, he comes alive.
A very good chicarito would be my guess.
He's got wonderful finishing and excellent movement in the box and is a big game player. I absolutely adore him and would be very happy if we can have him here. But, I don't think he'd fit this team.
Our record with Argentinian signings being successful is poor. He's not really a Jose type striker when you think of some of Jose's best strikers, warriors like Drogba and Diego Costa. Sarri would love him and would be a good manager for him.
He’s already in a top club.
Of course, bad wording on my part, what I meant by that was playing for a club that is amongst the best in the world (not including United). I don't follow Italian football much but I know Inter were 4th last season and 7th the season before. I know they're doing well this season but I'm not sure if they'd be included amongst the world's best sides.
Not for me. Not sure teams wanting to challenge for top honours can have a player who offers so little in the build up.
History aside, I m not talking about the past glorious history of the club but the progressive regrowing of inter since Suning came in 2016 is clear, the revenues have been exceptionally doubled without Champions League football (according to recent stats the 3rd most virtuous club in the world about the growth only behind to Liverpool and City) and the results on the pitch todays are just the beginning of this work, Inter have a prospective of coming back to an elite world club football again for sure
Inzaghi won a few Champions League trophies in his time, and he was even less involved than Icardi is.
Tbh that was long back and game has changed. Teams used to win titles without good attacking FBs too or CBs who weren't good with the ball, now all top teams want FBs who are good attackers and CBs who can pass the ball between lines and calm in possession. They also want strikers who is active in the build up play.
He's very loyal to Inter. Less desire to move aswell when you think they'll be regularly making the CL and possibly challenging Juve for the league.
Don't see him coming to the prem. Guess Real Madrid could go for him next summer (still would say Neymar or Mbappe would be top targets).
Barca aswell will eventually need a Suarez replacement, he is 32 in January.
Don't see him coming to the prem. Guess Real Madrid could go for him next summer (still would say Neymar or Mbappe would be top targets).
Barca aswell will eventually need a Suarez replacement, he is 32 in January.
Was it Fergie that said Inzaghi was born offside?
Icardi very good finisher, clearly has a set of balls on him to go against and upset the Inter Ultras but now he is play g well again they seem to have forgotten that incident. He does seem to be getting better in the build up and having more involvement in the game than just purely being a poacher plus how long has he been captain for now?
Our record with any signings is poor. I dont think we should use that as a reason never to sign more players though. We just need better selection of the players.
He's not versatile enough. With our poor crossing ability, we need a more dynamic Striker. I still believe Ciro Immobile is a better option.
I've only ever seen him the once (against Spurs a few weeks ago) and he was anonymous until he scored and absolute stunner, would this be a typical performance from him?
yes, very typical
Yes, except he won't score like that, just from inside the box.
Times have changed though
From the sounds of it he's poor in general and outstanding in the box. If we're getting a pure goalscorer it has to be someone like RVN who was considered to be a one-note but in reality was excellent at all things a CF should excel at. Obviously strikers like him don't come around that frequently but I don't think we need players who are average in the buildup.
Gimme one striker that's even close to the overall quality that RVN has, don't think there's one these days.
Icardi is a good striker, more inclined to the traditional type of number 9, no tricks or flicks, mostly operates around the box, has a bomb of a shot on him and the occasional spectacular goal. Most of the people with an opinion on him don;t even watch him that often.
He has good movement around the box, can drag defenders after him, good positioning and he's strong, that would make for a perfect striker. Sadly, it doesn't really work that way.
Being a box striker means he needs service, quality service from the wings or the occasional through ball. Given the fact our wingers can't put in a decent cross even if their lives would depend on it, Icardi coming to Man United will turn into absolute dogshi7 in no time.
Put him in a Barca/Madrid or City shirt and he'd score buckets.
Caf logic replace a striker who isn't a target man, with a player who's even less of a target man. Whilst Jose is here we need someone who can hold up play. Lukaku is struggling domestically and flourishing internationally. There's a very good reason for that. Lukaku is a very effective player if we'd play to his strengths, there's no need to replace him with a player who'd be an even worse fit into our team.
City already have 1 such player, Aguero, who is lethal and a real big game player for them, 300 games, 200 goals isn't to be sniffed at. Has the lot to his game, pace, control and ability to finish, he's probably a better all round player than RVN as well.