Isn't that a Martial thread ? Thought for a second I entered the Mourinho big thread.
Martial contract news| United confirm new contract signed
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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You won't win the second most important cup in football (after the world cup) by losing the dressing room. This is not some mickey mouse cup like the Europa league. Also not winning anything isn't doom and gloom as long as there is some sort of progression. Instead most players had regressed since last season.
I never said that everything was rosy at Real under Zidane. All I said is that its silly to think he lost the dressing room especially since he won his third consecutive CL.
I will never understand the obsession with Martial the guy has had countless chances and runs in the team yet apart from the odd occasion he remains largely anonymous in most games .
To everyone who constantly bleats on about him being one for the future please if that is the case stop demanding that he needs to play more NOW.
The fact is our forwards are an even bigger problem than our defenders just like the last 6 seasons we will fail because of our goals scored column more so than our goals conceded no matter how bright a talent martial and rashford are they will not score the goals we need
To everyone who constantly bleats on about him being one for the future please if that is the case stop demanding that he needs to play more NOW.
The fact is our forwards are an even bigger problem than our defenders just like the last 6 seasons we will fail because of our goals scored column more so than our goals conceded no matter how bright a talent martial and rashford are they will not score the goals we need
So as I stated a long time ago you just buy into everything the media posts, without any evidence!
You post an awful lot but just recycle everything you post. Try evolving your posts to keep up with current events. As living in the past and going over and over on the same thing isn’t a healthy obsession.
Not really no. I do try to rely on reliable media and on what Mou says. Of course you can just ignore everything and live in Lala land were everything is just fine, were most of the team had just regressed from last season mainly because of the weather and were its totally normal for a manager to spend 30m+ on CBs every year up until he finally gets it right.
I also think that we should be sticking to football rather then on third rated advice which does stink of personal attacks. If I remember well there actual rules that sort of tackle that.
As you quote media outlets on our transfer targets, when the player is negotiating a deal with his current club, so obviously United are linked to them, it happens all the time and generally there's nothing at all in it.
Jose actually said the team over performed last season, looks like he was correct.
Feedback on your posts isn't a personal attack. Stop trying to play the victim. If you so wish to ignore current events and hold onto what was happening months ago to support your outdated vendetta driven posts then so be it...
Back on thread let's hope the media are correct with this story about him wanting to stop.
I assure you I have no personal vendetta with Mou as the likes of twigs can easily testify. He was within my shortlist of managers I wanted and up to the beginning of the season I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt. If you check my posts I am also Woody's critic so I don't think that Mou is the only root of our problems.
Now back to football (this is a football forum right?). Mou is entitled to think that a team who ended up trophy less and second, miles away from the champions despite spending 400m had over performed. However that doesn't mean that its acceptable. Look at the club. We spent 85m on 3 defenders and despite all that we still play two 33 year old wingers as fullbacks with the manager expecting us to bring in yet another CB probably on ridiculous money. We bought Matic and he regressed. We bought Lukaku and he regressed. We bought Sanchez and he's a shadow of his former self. We bought Mkhitaryan and he's already a goner and we've yet to consider bringing in a RW. Meanwhile Martial, Herrera, Mata and DDG are heading towards his end of his contract and our performance had nosedived. That doesn't really bide well for us and it certainly doesn't inspire the club to keep throwing millions on Mou's targets
One thing I fully agree with the pro Mou camp is that you either support the manager or you fire him. Actually I think there's a third (and better) option ie were manager and CEO/DOF can discuss the targets and come up with a consensus. For example spending 60m on a 29 year old CB really doesn't make sense, which is something everyone should be able to agree upon. However I also acknowledge Mou's inability to be a team player and work alongside other people at par with him. So Woodward is reduced to a binary option. He can either support him or fire him.
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Jim white says its not done guys, lets celebrate as its done deal!!
Why is he turning us down? Disappointing.
Jim White still tweeting transfer news in 2018 is amazing, does he have no shame?
I am guessing he is not that reliable, is he ??
Not really.
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I'm sure the hold up is just technicalities like we've spelt Anthony Martial as Mehdi Benatia for example
Apparently has offered to take a pay cut if they get rid of Mou?
I'll be astonished if someone bites on this
I'll be astonished if someone bites on this
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Apparently we have activated his one year extension option till we be able to reach an agreement.
Reckon he'll push for a move if Jose stays put. Pretty sure him chasing full backs all game wasn't what he envisaged himself doing here.
Seems he isn't stupid.
I think Woodward/the board having confidence in him, and keeping him against the wishes of the manager can only go so far.
The longer Mourinho is still here, the less time Martial will have on his contract and we’ll have to desperately scramble to accept a bid from someone like Juventus. Even with the year extension, January leaves him with 18 months left on his contract. Precarious to say the least.
The longer Mourinho is still here, the less time Martial will have on his contract and we’ll have to desperately scramble to accept a bid from someone like Juventus. Even with the year extension, January leaves him with 18 months left on his contract. Precarious to say the least.
A man can hope.
Can't see Dave sticking around much longer
either given the current status quo at the club
That begs a question: is Woodward willing to lose his best players to keep an underperfoming manager.
It's the big question right now. We could well be losing a few if noises are to be believed.
This argument is only applied to Martial. I'm not sure why people keep throwing it at De Gea and Pogba.
If we hired a new manager Martial will probably like to stick around and try his luck with him.
However, if we ended up in Europe League, whoever we're going to hire, Raiola is going to push for a move for Pogba because he's not going to enjoy the idea of his agent playing another season in Europe League especially with Barca knocking on the door, and De Gea will start thinking about offers coming from Juve or PSG.
I can't find anything logic that will ensure a new manager will make our top class players who are already at their prime and endured shite for some good years to try their luck with yet a new project they don't if he will succeed or not, and if it fails they'll be near their 30, while other top and established clubs are starting to knock on the door offering them chances to actually start winning things now.
For Martial he's still pretty young and no other top club will offer him a guaranteed starting spot than here, so it feels logical for him to stay under a new manager and try his luck.
We're pretty much fecked up if we ends in Europe League next season.
I reckon he's either waiting for Jose to move on or waiting to see if/who we will sign on the wing before committing.
Cant say I blame him.
Cant say I blame him.
Not particularly worried, I don't see him leaving, Jose will be gone end of the season.
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There's literally no upside to keeping Mourinho. The gap between us and City is getting worse, the brand is losing value and our best players aren't signing contract renewals. What possible reason would we have to keep him?
I love how Martial v Jose has cemented itself into fact on here.
Pay the money and he'll stay. I'm sure he's being quoted signing bonuses all over the shop with his contract winding down.
Pay the money and he'll stay. I'm sure he's being quoted signing bonuses all over the shop with his contract winding down.
Bayern will offload Robbery and he will be guaranteed a starting shirt as his competition will be Gnabry and Coman
Seems the matter is financial. Think this will be done .
I'm not sure Bayern will let 2 of their old guard leave in one summer.
Mostly a matter of money. I think Martial knows the club values him, so he probably won't be itching to leave.
It will be done by April, I reckon.
It will be done by April, I reckon.
I understand David, but Pogba? Clearly wasn't happy with him in the summer.
£200,000 per week minimum may seal the deal.
His agent have all the advantages, plenty of cards to play this time and can easily milk this negotiation.
His agent have all the advantages, plenty of cards to play this time and can easily milk this negotiation.
- contract running out, 1(+1) year/s left.
- good run of form, one of the two key players in us having even a small chance to win games atm, which likely will remain that way for a lot longer.
- good age, 22-23 y.o., nothing to rush, and the potential many next years means more opportunity for his client with the club or at different club.
- growing hot reputation, which other top/mid clubs may start to sniff their interest testing the water.
- wages structure of United current squad is a delish delight full course meal -- Sanchez's huge wages, Lukaku's, Lingard's and Shaw's recent double help justify demand of tripling his current wages, I mean how important are they as key players and their forms, especially the first two.
- at the moment, it's like the club need to keep him more than the player needs the club, considering the many messy 'issues' we're having now oh in so many ways.
- the club management in recent years post-SAF era have a 'nice record' of listening to players agents.
- if rumours are believed to be, the one that holds the most active power at the club -- Ed insist on keeping Tony M a possible favourite of him.
- client have a huge fan base, huge supporters among the United fans, and I don't see the current power hierarchy having the balls to go against this, no strong figure like SAF anymore who'll if needs to be play hard ball making the tough decision.
- no recent justification in losing the negotiation this time -- previously in season 2016/17 maybe as Martial's form and performances are not convincing and we have more star players back then whom we rely on. Also, there seems to be problems with his discipline/attitude for some reason.
People are going to blame Woodward for overpaying, but the fact is the way the idiot has managed the players (and Martial) means we're having to go in this negotiation with one hand tied behind our back. Everything is in martials hands, and it's down to us to convince him to stay.
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