Reminder: Jose managed to turn Chelsea fans against Hazard

[roonster09]

I think you are just desperate to get in points about "Jose fans" so I'll just stop here. If you read the posts my points about Matic was about his commitment and I also said Pogba is way more talented than everyone else on our team but whatever.

I don't know in what sense Matic is so "committed". He is playing poor, barely moves and he is slow to everything. Pogba gets dropped for his poor performance which are still miles better than Matic's.

Yes, I'm not wrong when I say Jose fans. It's very much obvious.

 

[.Rossi]

Weirdos

You genuinely believe match going supporters booed Pogba because of Mourinho?
Not because of his mouthing off to the press this season and his consistently average to shite performances?

Yet, you say people who are fans of Mourinho are disgusting?

Strange bunch

 

[RoadTrip]

Why do people find having a view of the players and Mourinho inseparable? Why is it, you either hate Mourinho and so back the players or vice versa? To the few posters in here who have said that Pogba and Mourinho are as much dickhead as each other, I agree.

 

[.Rossi]

True. The OT crowd is largely responsible for extending Jose's tenure and this is not even an exaggeration.

I would appreciate the Top Red stuff if they booed no-one including the manager, claiming that as match-goers, they have to get behind the team. But the fact is, they booed Fellaini and now Pogba, and are only not booing the manager. So they cannot take the moral high ground and say they are above booing.

This is blind worship and they are doing damage to the club, Top Reds or not.



Likely because he wants to move to Real and feels there is a good chance Perez appoints Mourinho. Just mending fences with him in case. It took him nearly 3 seasons to come out with this, when he actually took a dig at Jose the season before last by claiming Conte was a better coach in terms of tactics? Timing says it all.

You've never gone to a match in your life

 

[Oldyella]

Weirdos

You genuinely believe match going supporters booed Pogba because of Mourinho?
Not because of his mouthing off to the press this season and his consistently average to shite performances?

Yet, you say people who are fans of Mourinho are disgusting?

Strange bunch

Why isn't Matic being booed then? He hasn't even reached average yet this season. Or Lukaku? Because they don't have their boss slating them every other week.

Fact is Pogba has probably been our best outfield player this season up until around 2 months ago when another player he had apparently fallen out with, Martial was put back in and hit a run of form.

As match going fans everyone obviously has the right to do what we want, but booing the players but applauding Jose is incredibly frustrating.

Hes created the narrative and some fans are just lapping it up. Sooner he fecks off the better.

 

[.Rossi]

Why isn't Matic being booed then? He hasn't even reached average yet this season. Or Lukaku? Because they don't have their boss slating them every other week.

Fact is Pogba has probably been our best outfield player this season up until around 2 months ago when another player he had apparently fallen out with, Martial was put back in and hit a run of form.

As match going fans everyone obviously has the right to do what we want, but booing the players but applauding Jose is incredibly frustrating.

Hes created the narrative and some fans are just lapping it up. Sooner he fecks off the better.

So basically match going fans are idiots and the vigilant group on RedCafe know everything best for the players, the club and Paul Pogba?

Right OK... I'll inform the Stretford end on Saturday. Start the rebellion, a movement if you will

 

[Santoryo]

Man I can't wait for Mourinho to be let go. That day will signify not only good days ahead for the club but also around these boards.

Mourinho devotees who follow him from club to club and are currently swarming these places will finally feck off while most guillable, top reds will finally shut up and stop regurgitating every single nonsense coming out of the man's mouth and threat them as gospel.

It gets exhausting reading some naive posts and constantly putting up with this cult like mentality certain posters have toward a man who's been a failure at our club.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Man I can't wait for Mourinho to be let go. That day will signify not only good days ahead for the club but also around these boards.

Mourinho devotees who follow him from club to club and are currently swarming these places will finally feck off while most guillable, top reds will finally shut up and stop regurgitating every single nonsense coming out of the man's mouth and threat them as gospel.

It gets exhausting reading some naive posts and constantly putting up with this cult like mentality certain posters have toward a man who's been a failure at our club.

From your mouth to God's ears

 

[Santoryo]

From your mouth to God's ears

I mean this man has us sitting midtable with a negative goal difference yet there is still this faction trying to justify and excuse the man poor job.

3 seasons he's been here with us and this is the third season we've been out of the title race before even December yet that same faction find that acceptable and would kill themselves to defend the man.

It has become unbearable. Any rationality or logic behind such devotion to the man cannot be found. All I see is blind devotion from a group who clearly value the man far more than anything else including the club they supposedly support.

 

[Oldyella]

So basically match going fans are idiots and the vigilant group on RedCafe know everything best for the players, the club and Paul Pogba?

Right OK... I'll inform the Stretford end on Saturday. Start the rebellion, a movement if you will

Do you think Chelsea fans wished they had sold Hazard and all the rest he was falling out with and stuck with Jose?

Or Real with Ronaldo and just about every other player who went on to win 3 CLs in a row?

 

[Jeppers7]

In terms of this.....I feel up until the injury Pogba picked up before the City game, his season overall was good despite us being largely shite. If you look at anytime Pogba has had an injury it's been followed by 3-4 poor games and a dip in confidence.

What if....he's just a player who is having a poor run of form after an injury ? What if he's just a happy go lucky guy who goes into work and enjoys it ? Never heard anything about him not putting it in in training.

My questions would be, why do these stories only come out when Pogba is playing poorly ? If he's a virus....surely he's not just a virus when he has a bad game ? What if the manager knows he has to pick his moments ? Chose his time to leak stories..... ffs we had the whole,in front of the cameras with the IT guy present, storm a few weeks ago. Perhaps the IT guy is always on the training pitch ?

What if the player isn't a virus at all, what if he just wants more movement from the forwards, as a season ticket holder that's clearly visible during games. What if we have a manager so self obsessed he takes offence with anyone who dares offer a different opinion ? What if that manager picks his moments and leaks things to the press, stages arguments, has a little group of favourites.

Who's then the virus ?

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

I'm not shocked, alot of the same fans that booed Pogba were the ones clapping Moyes and Van Gaal down the tunnel when it was clear they were dragging us down.

 

[FootyGirl88]

I mean this man has us sitting midtable with a negative goal difference yet there is still this faction trying to justify and excuse the man poor job.

3 seasons he's been here with us and this is the third season we've been out of the title race before even December yet that same faction find that acceptable and would kill themselves to defend the man.

It has become unbearable. Any rationality or logic behind such devotion to the man cannot be found. All I see is blind devotion from a group who clearly value the man far more than anything else including the club they supposedly support.

I've said it many times - enemies of progress all of them

 

[Siorac]

Those who turn on our best players whilst watching those team performances with those tactics deserve many more years of this football.

Unfortunately, the rest of us will have to endure that same football, too.

If there was a way to create an actual parallel reality for the Mourinho cult I'd be all for it. As it is, we have to be satisfied with their own attempts to create one here on the Caf.

 

[Lennon7]

And Hazard still wants to leave Chelsea

 

[sugar_kane]

Can anyone who went to the game actually verify if United fans were booing him?

It was barely audible on TV (therefore fairly minimal) and I think the only reason anyone is talking about it is because the commentator drew attention to it on BT.

It could have been the Arsenal fans for all we know.

 

[Champagne Football]

Did he tell you this?

I think someone would have to be a massive bonehead not to figure it out. Players do it all the time when it's time for a new contract. Rooney suddenly dreamed of playing for Chelsea when Utd wouldn't give him what he wanted.

 

[Smores]

Ah the non match going fans criticising old trafford again

You're all very small minded if you think any criticism of a player must be some Jose cult. It's embarrassing

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

What you talking about he signed him and played him every week!! Ssshhhhh

I use to think we had one of the most intelligent fans in the world. How I was wrong. SAF masked over the fans too.

It's easy to look intelligent and magnanimous when you win most of the time. Personally I'm proud the majority of United fans I know and speak to haven't gone into the full pissing-pants meltdown the likes of McNulty ('United fans have accepted B-list status') want to see from us.

However every United fan I know is to a man Jose out now. We're far from pleased with what's going on and, though we accept there are problems with the squad, board, club structure etc. as with the thrust of this thread we also see Jose as a spent force and a bullshitter who is putting his own interests above those of the club, as he has done elsewhere.

 

[ROFLUTION]

Yep and 1 famously had a sign saying Matic cesc and hazard the 3 rats.

Now everyone in the "which sign should I bring thread", Should take notice of this and stop making a big thing out of your special little cringy opinions. It just makes us other fans look stupid

 

[Catt]

You have to be a special kind to stand behind Mourinho even at OT these days. The manager more important than the club it seems for some fools.

Those of you who go to games, how is the mood now?

 

[Snowjoe]

Man I can't wait for Mourinho to be let go. That day will signify not only good days ahead for the club but also around these boards.

Mourinho devotees who follow him from club to club and are currently swarming these places will finally feck off while most guillable, top reds will finally shut up and stop regurgitating every single nonsense coming out of the man's mouth and threat them as gospel.

It gets exhausting reading some naive posts and constantly putting up with this cult like mentality certain posters have toward a man who's been a failure at our club.

The boards are so toxic at the moment because there’s a small section of people like yourself who feel the need to insult and demean anyone who doesn’t see it the way you do.

I’m also ready to see Jose out for what it’s worth.

 

[Darkhorsez]

The boards are so toxic at the moment because there’s a small section of people like yourself who feel the need to insult and demean anyone who doesn’t see it the way you do.

I’m also ready to see Jose out for what it’s worth.

Well said!

 

[.Rossi]

Do you think Chelsea fans wished they had sold Hazard and all the rest he was falling out with and stuck with Jose?

Or Real with Ronaldo and just about every other player who went on to win 3 CLs in a row?

Must have missed where I said I wanted him sold. From memory, that's what Paul Pogba wants

Can you show me where I said or any match going fans said that they booed him because they want him sold and they do so because of their love for Mourinho?

 

[Mainoldo]

It's easy to look intelligent and magnanimous when you win most of the time. Personally I'm proud the majority of United fans I know and speak to haven't gone into the full pissing-pants meltdown the likes of McNulty ('United fans have accepted B-list status') want to see from us.

However every United fan I know is to a man Jose out now. We're far from pleased with what's going on and, though we accept there are problems with the squad, board, club structure etc. as with the thrust of this thread we also see Jose as a spent force and a bullshitter who is putting his own interests above those of the club, as he has done elsewhere.

I can understand this being the view point of a lot of fans but football is not a secret society. We don’t have to show face at the ground just to show we have manners. There’s plenty of platforms to show how me feel we just aren’t showing it where it most matters and that being in the ground.

 

[izec]

Jose should be thrown out today. Pogba should get another chance under a new manager. We cant judge him when he is 'coached' by a cnut

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

I can understand this being the view point of a lot of fans but football is not a secret society. We don’t have to show face at the ground just to show we have manners. There’s plenty of platforms to show how me feel we just aren’t showing it where it most matters and that being in the ground.

Very true. If sections of match-goers wanted to leave their seats empty I wouldn't blame them, equally if they wanted to boo Jose and the board, chant 'Jose out, Ed out' or whatever they'd be entitled to do it. I just think when anyone is telling a person who's paid money and given up time to go to games what they should be doing in the stands it's out of order; be they journos such as McNulty, other fans or even fellow match-goers. It's a personal thing and the reaction to adversity is also personal.

 

[AndyJ1985]

Mourinho is a master manipulator. Everything he says has purpose, he doesn't randomly talk shit, he talks shit with the intent to deflect blame from himself and on to others. He's cunning, sly, and spiteful. It's fecking bonkers that after all these years of watching him do the same thing at other clubs, and now doing the same here, we actually have "fans" who are willing to side with him and put him before the club. Hope they feck off and support whatever club he ends up at next

 

[Smores]

Mourinho is a master manipulator. Everything he says has purpose, he doesn't randomly talk shit, he talks shit with the intent to deflect blame from himself and on to others. He's cunning, sly, and spiteful. It's fecking bonkers that after all these years of watching him do the same thing at other clubs, and now doing the same here, we actually have "fans" who are willing to side with him and put him before the club. Hope they feck off and support whatever club he ends up at next

But it's so hard not to be manipulated if only we had your smartz and knowleege

He's got into our eyes man you obviously being superior don't succumb to it but some of us see Pogba being shit and not putting the effort in.

Maybe Matic isn't playing shit either? Must just be Jose manipulating

 

[Oldyella]

Must have missed where I said I wanted him sold. From memory, that's what Paul Pogba wants

Can you show me where I said or any match going fans said that they booed him because they want him sold and they do so because of their love for Mourinho?

I would argue that fans don't boo players they want to keep, but agreed that it is no indication it is happening due to a love of Mourinho.

 

[AndyJ1985]

But it's so hard not to be manipulated if only we had your smartz and knowleege

He's got into our eyes man you obviously being superior don't succumb to it but some of us see Pogba being shit and not putting the effort in.

Maybe Matic isn't playing shit either? Must just be Jose manipulating

Beyond the wall of tedious sarcasm I don't even know what you're trying to say.

 

[Mainoldo]

So basically match going fans are idiots and the vigilant group on RedCafe know everything best for the players, the club and Paul Pogba?

Right OK... I'll inform the Stretford end on Saturday. Start the rebellion, a movement if you will

Please do. The majority of them who boo’d Pogba infact everyone that did are idiots. Hypocrites too because they’ll tell you to back the manager and show support for the club.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Man I can't wait for Mourinho to be let go. That day will signify not only good days ahead for the club but also around these boards.

Mourinho devotees who follow him from club to club and are currently swarming these places will finally feck off while most guillable, top reds will finally shut up and stop regurgitating every single nonsense coming out of the man's mouth and threat them as gospel.

It gets exhausting reading some naive posts and constantly putting up with this cult like mentality certain posters have toward a man who's been a failure at our club.

Well said!

 

[.Rossi]

Please do. The majority of them who boo’d Pogba infact everyone that did are idiots. Hypocrites too because they’ll tell you to back the manager and show support for the club.

I support the club, I don't boo players.
I think Pogba is a lazy, self obsessed f*ckwit, who needs to cop on before it's too late.
I also think Mourinho is out of ideas and should go.

Which category do I fall into, Master?

 

[Mainoldo]

I support the club, I don't boo players.
I think Pogba is a lazy, self obsessed f*ckwit, who needs to cop on before it's too late.
I also think Mourinho is out of ideas and should go.

Which category do I fall into, Master?

The one which probably thinks Pogba should be calling you master.

 

[.Rossi]

The one who probably thinks Pogba should be calling you master.

Are you actually accusing me of racism?
Are you saying I am a racist?

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Reminder: Pogba has acted like an unprofessional dickhead on and off the pitch most of the season. From snide, ambiguous comments to shameful effort on the pitch.

And don’t even compare him to Hazard, who had been the best player in the league the previous season. While it was obvious he was downing tools, it was equally obvious he was a talent too good to give up on. Pogba has shown no such form or anything close to it.

Both can get f*cked and their apologists are as bad as one another. They’ve been a disgrace to the club all season and both should be shown the door.

Exactly this.

Criticising Pogba for his disgraceful lack of effort on Saturday against Southampton doesn't automatically mean you've been brainwashed by Mourinho and have joined his cult of followers or any of that bollocks.

I've wanted Mourinho sacked since the Summer when he clearly gave up. Doesn't mean Pogba wasn't a disgrace .

 

[.Rossi]

Exactly this.

Criticising Pogba for his disgraceful lack of effort on Saturday against Southampton doesn't automatically mean you've been brainwashed by Mourinho and have joined his cult of followers or any of that bollocks.

I've wanted Mourinho sacked since the Summer when he clearly gave up. Doesn't mean Pogba wasn't a disgrace .

I'm a racist apparently because of it.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

The one which probably thinks Pogba should be calling you master.

You're bang out of order if you're implying racism to any of the Pogba criticism.

Ridiculous.

 

[Mainoldo]

Are you actually accusing me of racism?
Are you saying I am a racist?

Explain to me how he’s a lazy.... and self obsessed?