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Nah that is just hard man stuff and he was perfectly entitled to do that. Or something.
Keane used to hibernate in his cave between matchesEveryone knows when Keane wasn’t playing or training he used to sit in a dark room and brood until the next training session where he would come and berate everyone around him. That’s what the ideal footballer does in my book.
"People say you should have other stuff outside of football. I don't think you should.....you can do all that stuff when you retire."
Count the number of world class players who have stuff outside football (beginning with Ronaldo) and who don't wait until they retire.
It quickly becomes apparent that Keane is talking utter shite in that regard. Players can of course have other interests and other streams of revenue outside of football, they'd be dull soulless creatures if they didn't. It doesn't automatically mean their performances will diminish in the slightest either, as if it did then countless modern greats wouldn't be modern greats.
Is someone like Mata suddenly less professional because of his involvement in Common Goal? After all, there's no reason that should be any less of a distraction than a clothing line.
I wonder what Keane was doing during the long hours where he wasn't training or playing.
I wonder what Keane was doing during the long hours where he wasn't training or playing.
Because I'm sure the club has a say when it comes to image rights and other revenue streams with players. We know Ed gets a hard on for the commercial and merchandising of assets but the club is in turmoil right now and a nothing player like Lingard doing this right now doesn't look too good. Kind of petty I know but right now the club should come 1st but all I see is a bunch of fecking children thinking of themselves.Why would you imagine something happening to the club?
Keane used to hibernate in his cave between matches
That's a bit of random point...
I agree with most of what he's saying here.
People can point to the likes of Ronaldo, and even back to Beckham but the difference is they were highly dedicated and incredibly successful before launching their 'brands' and continued to be afterwards. They've built their brands on the back of on field success.
The thing with Lingard in particular irks me. Hes achieved nothing in the game, apart from playing for Man Utd. Leaving aside how good you think he is or isn't, hes been in shite form for most of the year - he only recently broke his scoring drought which last 26 games. So what's he building his brand on the back of? The answer is Man Utd. If Lingard played for Everton or some other club would he be launching his own clothing brand?
To me, he's trading of the popularity of the club. If he was a major part of successes at the club fair enough maybe. Doing it while the team is struggling, and while he's not done much to contribute, to me, seems out of order.
Just demonstrates that where you have excellent players underperforming, it's generally down to the manager. Keane can talk about professional pride all he wants, if the manager isn't getting the best from his players then it's on him.
Basically: Jose out. Keane in. Amirite?
At least tag me properly mate.I'm going to buy a Jlingzzz shirt and send it to @Kostov.He'll likely burn it or defecate on it.
Whilst he's at it, it would be nice if he 'battered' that useless manager of ours as well. How people can still stan for that disgusting creature is beyond comprehension.Jesse Lingard is not an excellent player
Pogba can be an excellent player but, he has always struggled with inconsistency.
If he batters a few of the players and Woodward, I'm all for it
Why do people hate the idea that Jesse Lingard has other interests outside the game? Serious question.
Nobody would have an issue with 'JLingz' and his clothing brand if he wasn't a complete man child and bang average mediocre player, nobody has an issue with the likes of Ronaldo because he is absolutely world class and brings it on the pitch time and time again, but everybody had an issue with Tom Cleverley and his TC23 brand because he was a bang average mediocre player just like Lingard, who barely brings anything to the pitch. So I think people get annoyed because the club is serving up shite leaving us fans in misery and they are jollying it up and launching clothing brands despite the fact they are serving up shit on the pitch, fans are bound to get frustrated at this I guess...
Jose is not SAF. You never heard SAF shitting on the club and players the way this man does.Look at it this way. Does anyone think if SAF was the manager he would let any player open a clothing line the day before a Liverpool game?
At least tag me properly mate.
On a serious note, what kind of loser buys Lingard’s clothing?
Come on mate, Keane didn’t sleep. You should know that. Only these younger, unprofessional, overpaid social media footballers sleep. Keane was always awake, reflecting on the last match. All he ever thought about was football.
Whilst he's at it, it would be nice if he 'battered' that useless manager of ours as well. How people can still stan for that disgusting creature is beyond comprehension.
I agree with most of what he's saying here.
People can point to the likes of Ronaldo, and even back to Beckham but the difference is they were highly dedicated and incredibly successful before launching their 'brands' and continued to be afterwards. They've built their brands on the back of on field success.
The thing with Lingard in particular irks me. Hes achieved nothing in the game, apart from playing for Man Utd. Leaving aside how good you think he is or isn't, hes been in shite form for most of the year - he only recently broke his scoring drought which last 26 games. So what's he building his brand on the back of? The answer is Man Utd. If Lingard played for Everton or some other club would he be launching his own clothing brand?
To me, he's trading of the popularity of the club. If he was a major part of successes at the club fair enough maybe. Doing it while the team is struggling, and while he's not done much to contribute, to me, seems out of order.
Jose is not SAF. You never heard SAF shitting on the club and players the way this man does.
You’re right. He just sat staring out of the darkness like some psycho robot
Didn't Keano blackout one of his rooms when he was a footballing apprentice at Forrest?You’re right. He just sat staring out of the darkness like some psycho robot
Even still, surely there's cooler players than Lingard to idolise.You'll be surprised.
I suspect its just kids though.
You'll be surprised.
I suspect its just kids though.
He's talking about how can an average player like Lingard who hasn't done anything of significance have his own clothing line."People say you should have other stuff outside of football. I don't think you should.....you can do all that stuff when you retire."
Count the number of world class players who have stuff outside football (beginning with Ronaldo) and who don't wait until they retire.
It quickly becomes apparent that Keane is talking utter shite in that regard. Players can of course have other interests and other streams of revenue outside of football, they'd be dull soulless creatures if they didn't. It doesn't automatically mean their performances will diminish in the slightest either, as if it did then countless modern greats wouldn't be modern greats.
Is someone like Mata suddenly less professional because of his involvement in Common Goal? After all, there's no reason that should be any less of a distraction than a clothing line.
Hadn’t heard that before but wouldn’t surprise meDidn't Keano blackout one of his rooms when he was a footballing apprentice at Forrest?
Sorry disagree. If it's all down to the players, then why the feck are we paying this guy £15M a year? I just get fed up with the narrative shifting away from him. People not wanting to hold him responsible keep shifting to everyone else except the man in charge of setting up and motivating the players.Hitler was a disgusting creature
Bashar al-Assad is a disgusting creature
Rapists, murderers and paedophiles are disgusting creatures.
Mourinho is not a digusting creature tbf
He's just doing a shit job
Then again, it doesn't help that the club is in a mess and Phil Jones is lurking around the place