Ah now that’s just far fetched
Keano wisdom... and if Pogba plays it's proof Mo has lost it
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There's only one Keano...
Im not so sure... he ticks all the boxes for cool. Social media, famous footballer, does cool dances, cool handshakes, no scandals or whatever and seems to be happy all the time. I can see how kids would like Lingard. What is the next best option? Dele Ali?
I bet he also plays Fortnite!
Just more punching slabs of meat in a freezer mentality, exactly what I'd expect from Keane, he seems to think all the players should do is think about football 24/7, which is total horseshit, plenty of top sports stars have plenty of life and indeed clothing ventures outside of their sporting activity, if he can't see there is a myriad of issues at this club, starting primarily with the manager, well, it's no surprise given he's talked shit about Fergie in the past.
Just a rumour that he painted his room black and rarely went out after training.
He only got wasted when he was on holiday leave back in Cork.
Lingard turned 26 this week, he isn’t a kid anymore.
Keane’s right, he’s not saying don’t have fun outside of football but you have to know what you’re primarily focus is. That’s obviously performing on the pitch. All the other stuff is going on but not much going on where it matters, on the pitch.
Lingard’s antics are so cringe, just grow the feck up..just a little bit so you don’t come across as an idiot and show you have a serious side. Using the clubs popularity and brand as a platform for his own brand when he’s not even good enough to play here says it all really. Players are taking the piss out of the club and what do we do? Give them an undeserved pay bump
Lingard’s antics are so cringe, just grow the feck up..just a little bit so you don’t come across as an idiot and show you have a serious side. Using the clubs popularity and brand as a platform for his own brand when he’s not even good enough to play here says it all really. Players are taking the piss out of the club and what do we do? Give them an undeserved pay bump
No, he starts off talking about Lingard and then he says:
"And people say you should have other stuff outside of football. I don't think you should. Football should be your number one priority. Focus on the game, don't hide behind your cars or your tattoos or your girlfriends, or your agents, play the game. And you can do all that stuff when you retire."
Which is his opinion on how all footballers should be, not just Lingard. And it's utter bollocks.
The cursor on Lingards website ha.
Love it.
Love it.
I never said it was all down to the players.
I literally just said he's doing a shit job
Not exactly sure why you're arguing with me here over something I didn't say
No, his favourite song is Paint It Black
I think he is spot on. It should also be taken into context as to what he is saying. Should football be your number one priority? Absolutely. Lingaard and this team is not performing on the pitch. So his concentration should be on performing on the pitch. If he has other interests like a clothing line and if he is not performing on the pitch then he is not doing his job. I feel a lot of United players are now hiding behind Jose and not taking their responsibilities on the pitch. I want Jose gone too but the players still have to perform on the pitch.
The suggestion that players aren't focused/performing at the top of their ability because they make a 20sec instagram video every other week or do other things than just play football is the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. If Ronaldo can be the most dedicated footballer in the world while also having 95 different sponsor gigs, 3 billion followers on social media and a kid then I'm pretty sure Lingard can sit in on a few meetings to give his opinion on some pieces of clothing without it destroying his career.
Reminds me of when people blamed Depay's poor form on his car and fancy clothes.
Reminds me of when people blamed Depay's poor form on his car and fancy clothes.
I guess the only redeeming aspect on Lingard's super fashion site is he's not modelling his own wear.
Truth is why do they need to post it all on social media? The club is frankly in a mess right now and we have players posting childish dances and handshakes pretty much every week, I think they fully deserve the criticism they are getting.
And as for off the pitch interests, Lingard has created a clothing brand for one reason, to make money. Keane is right. We had Pogba release an emoji before the Liverpool game two years ago and now Lingard releases a clothing brand, the timing of this stuff is just wrong. Do it in the summer.
I need a new pair of JLingz© y-fronts after seeing that line-up...
When you apply that logic to every other job then it really does paint Keano as abit of a dumb,ignorant simpleton.
"And people say you should have other stuff outside of cleaning cars. I don't think you should. Cleaning cars should be your number one priority. Focus on the cleaning, don't hide behind your football or your tattoos or your girlfriends, or your agents, wash cars. And you can do all that stuff when you retire."
Erm the difference is Ronaldo performs.
Even when Rio was one of the first players who was constantly on Twitter, I didn’t mind because he was performing.
None of these wasters perform consistently. Focus on your day job first before branching out to other stuff.
What's this nonsense of having to win trophies before you're "forgiven" to be a bit eccentric?
In general people who are always trying to teach you a lesson have skeletons in their own cupboards.
Ask Rio.
This is a fecking stupid comment. Deleany is one of the most clueless journos out there. Right up there with Jackson in moron category.
If players are focused, train properly and giving their best during their games what happens during their spare time is irrelevant. I suppose drinking culture during their spare time was more acceptable to Keane.
This is spot on imo.
And how did Depay perform for us, remind me?
Pretty much every story about Memphis since he left was about how bling he was and how that rubbed people up the wrong way when he didn't perform.
Players hate Keano, because he tells them home truths. That's why he won't be a great manager. He ruffles feathers and tells it as it is.
Has a pop at Lingard bringing out a clothing line in the week of the big Liverpool game, says the players have to look at themselves and not hide, questions the dressing room and adds: "I never came off the pitch after having a bad game and thought I’ll go and blame the manager for that, roll your sleeves up and do your own job."
United have played better without prima donna Pogba in the last few games, who swans around, showing little in the way of effort, persistently showboats and loses possession, with a huge chip on his shoulder and then makes comments blaming the manager. Take personal responsibility, man. Instead of high fiving opponents when we are losing at half time (Juventus), hurt, and cajole the other players to sort this out.
Mourinho was right to leave him out before, and continues to be right to keep him on the sidelines. If he plays today against Liverpool, I do question whether people above him are putting him under pressure rather than making the correct football decisions.
Here is the Keano view: "Sometimes the players have to take responsibility. I know people say Mourinho has to get people onside. But you are talking a lot of international players there, and if you are going on pitch and you are not looking after the ball and you are sloppy in possession, that does come down to the player. At some stage your own pride has to kick in as a professional footballer, no matter who the manager is.
"Whatever happens today, Mourinho wants to look at this group of players and say, win lose or draw, they are gonna fight their corner, they're gonna run people down, they are gonna roll their sleeves up. We've all been there, you can't win every week, but if you are gonna lose football matches, roll your sleeves up and dig in. That's where there are huge question marks, where he is not happy with Pogba, Lukaku, and one or two others, and it doesn't look good."
On Lingard's clothing line launch in the week of the Liverpool game: "In a good, strong dressing room that wouldn't be tolerated. For a young player, who is still earning his trade, and again, he could be the nicest kid in the world, I don't know the lad, but if you are coming out with all that nonsense...
"And people say you should have other stuff outside of football. I don't think you should. Football should be your number one priority. Focus on the game, don't hide behind your cars or your tattoos or your girlfriends, or your agents, play the game. And you can do all that stuff when you retire."
You've started two pathetic threads in one day saying the same thing....really ? Jesus Christ. Get over yourself.
Exactly. Delaney getting slaughtered in the replies and rightfully so. Plus Keane performed well on the pitch so because of that he would of gotten alot more leeway. If he was as poor as Lingard safe to say he wouldn't of.
This makes little sense. If Mourinho doesn't have any authority now because "Remember Hazard?", we should just fire him and move on.
I know Jose is not popular here but there are some serious double standard with that. So when Fergie gave Beckham the boot, did people say "Remember Jaap Stam"? When he let Tevez joined City, did people question it? At the end of the day, if the manager is not given his basic right (Choosing which players to start), what's the point of hiring him and paying his salary anyway?
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Why is that?
How do you think Manchester United make their money?
As long as you are performing on the pitch, giving it your all, nobody cares what you do outside of it.
It's only when you are lazily strutting around, losing the ball causally that these sort of things get highlighted.
I agree with his perspective. Football should be their highest priority (aside from family of course), with all of the other social media stuff taking a backseat.
Seen people criticise Delany but the point is a sound one.
We aren't unsuccessful because Lingard and Pogba post on instagram.
Tom Cleverly had a clothing range! Jesus christ. I never knew that. He was terrible.
Ronaldo performs because he's an infinitely better footballer than Lingard, not because he can handle 10x as many side interests outside of football. If Lingard had been world class before he started his clothing company and then gone to shit afterwards there would be something to talk about, but the best he's ever done was scoring some world class goals during a run of games while being quite average the rest of the time.
We have no idea what he would do if he didn't have the clothing company, and to imply that him doing something we wouldn't know about wouldn't affect his career as badly as supposedly the clothing company does makes no sense.
He was quite shit. My point is that I seriously doubt the reason for that was because he drove a very nice car and had a terrible fashion sense.
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I know. Whether you agree with Keane is irrelevant. He had a stellar career and asking more from him is pretty fecking daft.
The club would still make a lot of money without players posting shite on social media.
It's all guesswork but I don't think the club has a say with individual marketing deals like this. Sure the club may get a percentage but don't think they can stop it.
I'd buy a JLingz jumper if they're cheap.
I completely disagree. It’s really not that important. Would you prioritise your job over family if they paid you that much?
Who the feck would want to dress like Jesse Lingard? His dress sense is shocking... just truly shit.
I mean if he was skint that would be all Gio Goi.
I mean if he was skint that would be all Gio Goi.
The point is daft. 'A different time' but you want someone to be more proffesional as well? How does that make sense?
Highly speculative to boot.