I agree to an extent, but you are ignoring the fact that the club have also restructured its youth academy, and its scouting network. We've also signed plenty of top youth players in the last few years. Its not as if the club was standing still over that time. There needs to be better structure sure, but if we do sign a DoF, then that is another step in the right direction.
Mourinho Gone
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Here's the thing, United have won ~40% of the available league titles since 2005. That's including these 5 years of significant failure post-Ferguson. That's the period you're complaining about.And that has absolutely no correlation does it? Countless examples of clubs being successful whilst being mismanaged and then suffering for years after. We’ve done it before ourselves. Our biggest rivals did the same.
As for Grandpop
As for the larger point, for most of the supporters - provided the managers gets funds to buy the players he wants, we're not overly bothered. No manager post-Ferguson can complain of not getting significant funds.
Completely agree with the last part. The academy was only changed because City were picking up every youngster in Manchester and they knew it had to change when the old academy coaches were leaving.
I won’t get excited about anything at all regarding managers appointments until the people above them are changed.
Nah, it was a media-driven narrative if anything and not just the English media.
Those were coaches Jose brought in. Rapetti was the head of fitness that joined us this summer. I think one of the other two are a goal keeper coach and other being a scout.
Of all the days I’ve chosen to be a media hermit, it’s the day Mourinho gets fired!
Rejoice! There is hope again.
Rejoice! There is hope again.
Needed to happen, but I liked him.
No doubt will go to Madrid and win again. It just didn’t work here with the gutless players and money oriented board.
No doubt will go to Madrid and win again. It just didn’t work here with the gutless players and money oriented board.
That's so depressing. There's barely any major difference under 3 managers.
Nothing will change unless we get proper football people managing the club.
I was thinking that didn’t look right, wasn’t Jose sacked after losing to Leicester
Jose's coaches.
Dear Jose,
Thanks for bringing Zlatan Ibrahimovic to the club, he was made for Manchester United. Disappointed that it didn't work out but your heart never really seemed in it anyway. We will never forgive you after the whole Sevilla thing, and your self preserving attitude was embarrassing at times, but congratulations on another hugely undeserved pay out. You're running out of friends, and big clubs to manage, so we all look forward to seeing you get your arse tanned by Sir Gareth Southgate's mighty England in the 2022 World Cup.
Best of luck in the future,
Hugs,
Manchester United
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Thanks for bringing Zlatan Ibrahimovic to the club, he was made for Manchester United. Disappointed that it didn't work out but your heart never really seemed in it anyway. We will never forgive you after the whole Sevilla thing, and your self preserving attitude was embarrassing at times, but congratulations on another hugely undeserved pay out. You're running out of friends, and big clubs to manage, so we all look forward to seeing you get your arse tanned by Sir Gareth Southgate's mighty England in the 2022 World Cup.
Best of luck in the future,
Hugs,
Manchester United
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Why on earth would any club even entertain the idea of having Jose manage them, let alone one as huge as Madrid?
Yep.
Very good.
Cheers ! For whatever reason I never became familiar with them, which is strange considering I was quite familiar with Moyes and Vangle’s coaches, and these guys were here longer than them.
Madrid wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole
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I suppose that’s one of the reasons I wanted him. It felt like he was desperate for the job and would do anything and everything to make it work but it never transpired. It all felt like the right fit for me but after a few months it felt like it wasn’t a good fit whatsoever.
No doubt about that - for all their faults, the Americans have always signed the cheques when asked to....Until, it seems, this past summer.
But I'd love to know exactly who thought that £400 miilion or so of transfer fees and wages for Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez and Fred was good business. All four of them are grossly over-rated and, let's be honest, based on their performances this season, we'd be lucky to get even half of that back for them in next month's transfer window.
Hopefully one day we'll hear all about it, but I've never believed that JM wanted Pogba and Sanchez - I'm sure that was Woodward, not Mourinho because Mourinho's track record has usually been about buying players below the radar - and if it was Woodward, then fire him as well !!
Its fecking happened lads.
Get in.
I despise the board but I give them credit here for acting reasonably quickly. Seasons a writeoff but we can at LEAST instill some positivity now.
Rumours of Ole.....I don't rate him as a manager but as a caretaker until next summer,why not. Bleeds the club,fans love him,he'll at least bring positive vibes for the rest of the season. We'll still finish in a poor position but with one of our own seeing us there.
Time for this club to sort itself the feck out.
Get in.
I despise the board but I give them credit here for acting reasonably quickly. Seasons a writeoff but we can at LEAST instill some positivity now.
Rumours of Ole.....I don't rate him as a manager but as a caretaker until next summer,why not. Bleeds the club,fans love him,he'll at least bring positive vibes for the rest of the season. We'll still finish in a poor position but with one of our own seeing us there.
Time for this club to sort itself the feck out.
I'm actually looking forward to the Cardiff game on Saturday. First time I've felt this way in months.
It really does feel like a huge weight has been lifted.
It really does feel like a huge weight has been lifted.
Imagine getting your dream job only to find Ronald McWoodward was your boss. Enough to make anyone miserable.
Think about it man. Do you really think Woodward first knew who Fred was and then insisted we signed him? He probably didn't even know who Shakhtar were. Mourinho had persistently said he only got a few players from HIS list. These were 100% Mourinho's signings.
Not sure about Fred, to be honest - I reckon he was probably an alternate on JM's list, not a must-have.
Paddy Crerand show cancelled.
Cowards.
Cowards.
The problem is we gave the mediocrity too long a chance not any more .
football joe always good for a laugh
Finally had some time to reflect on this and man i'm just so happy. The dire football, the shite attitude and the negative environment he created at the club are not worth the minimal "improvement" over LVG. He was backed financially (fight me), brought in his own players and still managed to complain and bitch about everything. I cannot emphasize how shite the football has been, United have become so damn easy to stifle under him (and LVG) despite the fact that we have some unquestionably talented players.
The manager's philosophy must be inline with the club's philosophy and values. Mourinho was a bad fit from day one that we accepted based on his pedigree. I was a Mourinho supporter who thought that he would deliver trophies and maybe recreate that fantastic Madrid side from 2012 but I was dead wrong. Tactically he has not evolved and has been left in the dust by the likes of Guardiola, Klopp, Zidane and others. Even managers who havent won anything like Sarri, Poch, Emry and Tuchel have delivered attractive football at the very least. I understand that it is extremely difficult to compete for trophies with the financial playing field being so leveled but it takes bravery and commitment to get in the mix and fight to win. I reckon Mourinho is finished as a top flight manager, I cant see him at another big club except PSG or Inter. I think it would be a terrible move for Madrid to take him in.
As to where we go from here I think most fans have written off this season so the club needs to focus on rebuilding in terms of placing a structure. Rushing into an appointment would be bad imo and I dont understand the reason for appointing an external interm manager when we have Carrick and McKenna who could do a job until the end of the season. Regardless, we need to have a DOF incharge of manager recruitment and player recruitment as well as reorganizing the scouting structure which sounds like a mess. Having a DOF is critical before we appoint someone and should be done as soon as possible.
Overall I feel positive, Mourinho's sacking will lift the fans and players (most of them) and gives us hope that the club is committed to achieving success. Plus we chant "feck Off Mourinho" again.
The manager's philosophy must be inline with the club's philosophy and values. Mourinho was a bad fit from day one that we accepted based on his pedigree. I was a Mourinho supporter who thought that he would deliver trophies and maybe recreate that fantastic Madrid side from 2012 but I was dead wrong. Tactically he has not evolved and has been left in the dust by the likes of Guardiola, Klopp, Zidane and others. Even managers who havent won anything like Sarri, Poch, Emry and Tuchel have delivered attractive football at the very least. I understand that it is extremely difficult to compete for trophies with the financial playing field being so leveled but it takes bravery and commitment to get in the mix and fight to win. I reckon Mourinho is finished as a top flight manager, I cant see him at another big club except PSG or Inter. I think it would be a terrible move for Madrid to take him in.
As to where we go from here I think most fans have written off this season so the club needs to focus on rebuilding in terms of placing a structure. Rushing into an appointment would be bad imo and I dont understand the reason for appointing an external interm manager when we have Carrick and McKenna who could do a job until the end of the season. Regardless, we need to have a DOF incharge of manager recruitment and player recruitment as well as reorganizing the scouting structure which sounds like a mess. Having a DOF is critical before we appoint someone and should be done as soon as possible.
Overall I feel positive, Mourinho's sacking will lift the fans and players (most of them) and gives us hope that the club is committed to achieving success. Plus we chant "feck Off Mourinho" again.
Christ
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Oh my god
So am I. We're not going to be an amazing team overnight but that's not what matters atm. a change in mentality on the pitch, no more favoritism to under performing players and more importantly a sense amongst fans that we are heading in the right direction .
According to Sky, when you take all competitions played in (so not just Prem games) Jose was our second most successful manager for win rate.
SAF: 59.7%
Jose: 58.3%
Mangnall: 54.2%
Moyes: 52.9%
LVG: 52.4%
Sir Matt: 50.5%
Who extended fellainis contract? Who said young was one of his best players? Who kept playing lingard/jones?
You guys are a joke.
Best news after landing on holiday. I hope we appoint a director of footbal before the next full-time manager.
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