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He's punching above his weight at spurs. At madrid anything less than cl is a sacking offence.Which one is most likely would you say?
He's just rational.
He's punching above his weight at spurs. At madrid anything less than cl is a sacking offence.Which one is most likely would you say?
I kind of enjoy your long, pointless posts where you try to explain people what they are saying. You’ve been at your best recently.So just as I said, you admit being baffled as to why Spurs players keep signing long-term contracts, so it's hardly surprising that your predictions of "eventual" departures are not persuasive, especially when "eventually" could mean 2, 3 or 4 years down the line. And if all these players would leave if presented with a chance to do so, how come they signed new contracts?
I guess you are equally baffled as to why Pochettino signed a new, long-term contract, so likewise your "good chance" prediction stands on shaky ground.
As for Walker, that's been done to death already: Spurs had Trippier coming up through the ranks, got £50m, and so were OK with letting Walker go.
And then , what happened? Where is he now ?That's not true. See Marco Silva last year with Everton and Watford.
Not true. He could just place Pochettino on gardening leave for a year or two and leave United in limbo-land. But it won't come to that because Pochettino won't be keen on leaving.Who, Levy ? If Poch wants to join us, he can't say No. He doesn't have an option but to agree a compensation with us.
Watford refused to negotiate for Silva. It can happen, they have the option. In theirt Pochettino can buy out his contract but it's not practical. He would need to pay the money himself. It's never been done before because it would be so messy.Who, Levy ? If Poch wants to join us, he can't say No. He doesn't have an option but to agree a compensation with us.
gardening leave. If I want to quit, I quit - as simple as that.Not true. He could just place Pochettino on gardening leave for a year or two and leave United in limbo-land. But it won't come to that because Pochettino won't be keen on leaving.
That's disingenuous to say the least so you believe journalist saying that Pochettino is United's prime target as manager but out rightly reject the their claim that Pochettino might be interested to come here as well .Desperation causes clubs in dire straights to behave in desperate ways.
United are in a right old mess. They extend Mourninho's contract, then they sack him at huge expense because of said contract. They sign players by chucking huge wages at them, then can't get rid of the duffers because no other club will pay such wages for the players concerned. They start off talking big about title challenges and how much money they have to spend, but now they face a 4th time outside in the top 4 in the space of just six seasons.
If Poch says he wants to go he will be allowed to leave. What kind of message are you sending to your squad keeping a manager who wants to leave? That would be unprecedented.Not true. He could just place Pochettino on gardening leave for a year or two and leave United in limbo-land. But it won't come to that because Pochettino won't be keen on leaving.
Not true. He could just place Pochettino on gardening leave for a year or two and leave United in limbo-land. But it won't come to that because Pochettino won't be keen on leaving.
The gardening leave won't happen because Levy won't throw £40m away but he really can't just quit, especially if it's a ploy to move elsewhere.gardening leave. If I want to quit, I quit - as simple as that.
Yeah, and how did that go? Dude was sacked. You can’t keep a manager that ain’t happy. It’s the most important football person at the club.Watford refused to negotiate for Silva. It can happen, they have the option. In theirt Pochettino can buy out his contract but it's not practical. He would need to pay the money himself. It's never been done before because it would be so messy.
Everything depends on Levy saying yes.
Watford refused to let him go despite Silva wanting to go. Everton hired Allardyce. Two months later Silva was sacked for poor results.And then , what happened? Where is he now ?
No, it wouldn't be as "simple as that". Pochettino wouldn't have the option to join another club as long as his contract with Spurs remain in force.gardening leave. If I want to quit, I quit - as simple as that.
Watford case was different because it was mid year and yet they were close but Everton pulled out and decided to wait until summer.Watford refused to negotiate for Silva. It can happen, they have the option. In theirt Pochettino can buy out his contract but it's not practical. He would need to pay the money himself. It's never been done before because it would be so messy.
Everything depends on Levy saying yes.
Correction, nobody keeps unhappy managers in charge of the team. Being in charge of a garden is something else.Watford case was different because it was mid year and yet they were close but Everton pulled out and decided to wait until summer.
As I mentioned multiple times, all you need to tell Levy is I quit and want to explore other opportunities. No body keeps unhappy managers with them.
I agree. I'm just saying there's a risk Levy can say no. It will now depend on Pochettino accepting it and moving on or things turning sour.Yeah, and how did that go? Dude was sacked. You can’t keep a manager that ain’t happy. It’s the most important football person at the club.
Its not as simple as putting him in gardening leave either. If he wants to join us, he will join us.No, it wouldn't be as "simple as that". Pochettino wouldn't have the option to join another club as long as his contract with Spurs remain in force.
You can leave in your own fantasy world. I will move on.Correction, nobody keeps unhappy managers in charge of the team. Being in charge of a garden is something else.
It would be interesting to see come summer which set of supporters would end being embarrassed ,some Arrogant United fans who are certain Pochettino is coming to United or few deluled Spurs fans who have almost irrational belief that Pochettino is going nowhere or both with Pochettino moving to Madrid.If the footballing gods are just and fair, they will make Poch to United happen just piss Glaston off.
I just don't believe anything that was written in a newspaper.It's called 'making up stuff'. Standard Journo day to day stuff.
I don't know for sure whether Poch is United's prime target, but it seems credible that he would be. But it doesn't strike me as credible that Pochettino has indicated he wants to go there. After all, in the transfer windows the media is chock-a-block with "sure fire" stories about player X to club Y ... but most of these stories end up being proved wrong.That's disingenuous to say the least so you believe journalist saying that Pochettino is United's prime target as manager but out rightly reject the their claim that Pochettino might be interested to come here as well .
Personally, I think he will stay at Spurs and we will end up with either Zidane or Allegri.It would be interesting to see come summer which set of supporters would end being embarrassed ,some Arrogant United fan who are certain Pochettino is coming to United or few deluled Spurs fan who have almost irrational belief that Pochettino is going nowhere or both with Pochettino moving to Madrid.
That's true, I just hope people on here don't pretend that Poch was never the main target if it doesn't materialize.It would be interesting to see come summer which set of supporters would end being embarrassed ,some Arrogant United fans who are certain Pochettino is coming to United or few deluled Spurs fans who have almost irrational belief that Pochettino is going nowhere or both with Pochettino moving to Madrid.
Ok then, so I have the answer, he's happy where he is. No problem for me! He can stay.Poch did not use an agent. He negotiated his contact with the club by himself, man to man style. Does that make him stupid? Or does that signal his happiness with the club and his role at the club?
I also believe he is our prime target and there may be some encouragement from his side as well with a caveat that Spurs need to be respected and if a amicable deal could be worked out between United and Spurs great ,otherwise he is happy to continue his good work with Spurs.I don't know for sure whether Poch is United's prime target, but it seems credible that he would be. But it doesn't strike me as credible that Pochettino has indicated he wants to go there. After all, in the transfer windows the media is chock-a-block with "sure fire" stories about player X to club Y ... but most of these stories end up being proved wrong.
I think he wants to stay to lead you guys into the new stadium. Sort of like a fulfilment of his project with you. As I mentioned below, he seems a passive character and won't rock the boat too much so I cannot see him being determined to leave if things get tense with Levy.Which one is most likely would you say?
Are you trying to convince yourself with these repetitive grand statements? One is enough!Desperation causes clubs in dire straights to behave in desperate ways.
United are in a right old mess. They extend Mourninho's contract, then they sack him at huge expense because of said contract. They sign players by chucking huge wages at them, then can't get rid of the duffers because no other club will pay such wages for the players concerned. They start off talking big about title challenges and how much money they have to spend, but now they face a 4th time outside in the top 4 in the space of just six seasons.
Simply not true. If a manager signs a 5 year contract they can't simply resign and join another club whenever they feel like it unless the contract says they can ... and it's highly unlikely that any manager's contract would contain such a clause, not least because no club wants a manager to be able to just up-sticks mid-season.Its not as simple as putting him in gardening leave either. If he wants to join us, he will join us.
Spurs contract part is also wrong unless you take a severance pay from Spurs. If I resign my post and take no severance, I am free to join any club I want . Ofcourse, the legal things could be different for each contracts but typically this is what happens in a manager contract .
In what way are we a 'mid table club'?The 1st time I read this thread and Wow! These Spurs fans are as delusional and annoying as Mourinho. I wonder what they've achieved or won to express such a level of arrogance. They've had a great spell the last 4 years (in their standards) but they still remain a mid table club and that's not ready to change soon. When you're beating your chest for being better than United when we're at our worst than something is wrong in your mind; United isn't a barometer of excellence right now but still able to unsettle their manager.
Gardening leave?! !Not true. He could just place Pochettino on gardening leave for a year or two and leave United in limbo-land. But it won't come to that because Pochettino won't be keen on leaving.
If it gets to the stage that we're negotiating release clauses then Poch is set on leaving and he's as good as gone.I also believe he is our prime target and there may be some encouragement from his side as well with a caveat that Spurs need to be respected and if a amicable deal could be worked out between United and Spurs great ,otherwise he is happy to continue his good work with Spurs.
When did I mention mid-season? As I mentioned earlier, you are free to believe whatever you want. You can mark my words and come back to me when I am wrong . If Poch wants to join us, he will join us. There is nothing Spurs or Levy can do about it. And if it happens, the buy out wouldn't be 48m as they say. Will be much closer to 20 m- 25m than 45 - 50.Simply not true. If a manager signs a 5 year contract they can't simply resign and join another club whenever they feel like it unless the contract says they can ... and it's highly unlikely that any manager's contract would contain such a clause, not least because no club wants a manager to be able to just up-sticks mid-season.
Simply saying you want to leave and will take no severance pay (does not end a contract.