Solskjær as permanent manager?

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It's about making a decision for the long term interests of the club. Ole is not in their plans IMO.

Remember what happened to DiMatteo after he won the UCL( with a far better team than ours)
And if we finished the season very strongly and it appeared that Solskjaer was up to the job then Woodward has a big decision to make for the long term interests of the club.

There could be no better scenario than Solskjaer, Phelan and Carrick leading United to success. If it was apparent that this had legs, it would be very difficult not to allow them to continue.
 

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It's about making a decision for the long term interests of the club. Ole is not in their plans IMO.

Remember what happened to DiMatteo after he won the UCL( with a far better team than ours)
Everyone needs to stop mentioning DiMatteo.

Great accomplishment winning the CL, but that run was one of the jammiest I've ever seen in the competition. Their struggles the following season were not a surprise.

If Ole has similar luck without displaying the qualities needed from a long term manager then we will wish him the very best and send him back to Molde and sing his name every match.
 

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The win was great, the performance was even better and I love Ole, but let us take one game at the time. I personally think he'll benefit greatly from having Phelan and McCarrick with him.
 

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Everyone needs to stop mentioning DiMatteo.

Great accomplishment winning the CL, but that run was one of the jammiest I've ever seen in the competition. Their struggles the following season were not a surprise.

If Ole has similar luck without displaying the qualities needed from a long term manager then we will wish him the very best and send him back to Molde and sing his name every match.
Yep. Theres a difference in getting a fluke CL win and actually improving the side and showing his tactical acumen and showing improvements the longer he is with us. Ole really turning us around and showing the right mentality and ability from now til the end of the season and taking over full time is the dream scenario, and I really hope that the board are open to the idea. He doesnt need to win the CL or even specifically get top 4 to do it. We'll see though.
 

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If we play in this style for ~80% of our remaining matches (winning at least 70%-80% of the matches), players look improved, we score more goals and generally it looks like a happy camp, I'd give him the job in a heartbeat. I rate Pochettino and Zidane very highly but there's literally no point in getting them if Solskjaer does what I previously stated. Having a connection to the club is always a plus.

As said, a DoF is needed to take the transfer responsibility off the manager anyway.

People might see some hypocrisy to this with the reluctance for supporters to back Giggs taking the job but to me, that was more about the 'risk' of appointing him at that time. Ole has come in at a time when we could afford to take that risk. Secondly Giggs is a wet blanket and his personal life issue was disgusting (so it's hard to back him 100%). But of course if Giggs had come in and got us playing good football and got positive results, we'd obviously want to keep him over getting Pochettino/Zidane/Tuchel whoever as well.

If Ole doesn't keep up these performances, that's fair enough. The club needs to plan for all scenarios. I just think the idea he couldn't be in the running is insane.
 

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I think it is daft to think that Ole is not in the running. If he does well from now until the end of the season and the club is generally happy with what he is doing, I am pretty sure he will get the job. Woodward would not add a clause in he's contract with Molde that let's us get him permanently if that was not the case.
 

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The win was great, the performance was even better and I love Ole, but let us take one game at the time. I personally think he'll benefit greatly from having Phelan and McCarrick with him.
Ole and carrick arent that far apart.

Ole was coached by saf longer than carrick, he knows what carrick knows. Phelan perhaps but not carrick
 

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Ole and carrick arent that far apart.

Ole was coached by saf longer than carrick, he knows what carrick knows. Phelan perhaps but not carrick
But the way they perceive and understand football probably isn't the same.
 

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If we play like we did against Cardiff for majority of the rest of the season I think it would be very foolish to change manager and coaching staff. Right now, Solskjaer, Phelan, Carrick and McKenna is working. We have set off in the right direction. If we continue in the right direction, change nothing!
 

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Still a bit early to say, but definitely looked a lot hungrier yesterday. Mind you, if Zidane was offered.............
 

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Still it's not a given that carrick is better than ole. Ole has actually managed a few teams in his own. Carrick is just a coach under a failed manager.
Who said anything about one being better than the other? I was pointing out how they are all complementing each other with different experiences from their playing days, being coached in different times during SAF's era, their view on football etc.
 

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I think it is daft to think that Ole is not in the running. If he does well from now until the end of the season and the club is generally happy with what he is doing, I am pretty sure he will get the job. Woodward would not add a clause in he's contract with Molde that let's us get him permanently if that was not the case.
There's no clause for the full-time job, per the BBC.

Still it's not a given that carrick is better than ole. Ole has actually managed a few teams in his own. Carrick is just a coach under a failed manager.
But also a link to the current players. In terms of an interim management team to the end of the season it's pretty much as good as we could hope for.

Things'll have to go pretty much perfectly until the end of the year for him to get it permanently, but stranger things...
 

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If we play the way we did last night on a consistent basis, then why not? The players seemed to be thriving under the system and had smiles on their faces. The club felt United. Everything is moving in the right direction which isn’t something I’ve said for a very long time.
 

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It's about making a decision for the long term interests of the club. Ole is not in their plans IMO.

Remember what happened to DiMatteo after he won the UCL( with a far better team than ours)
TBF there's Di Matteo and there's Zidane. We don't know yet. We better talk about it after we play some big games and see how will it pan out.
 

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If we had a Dof right now and the performances warranted it the club should definitely consider Ole. But to not do the groundwork and go in to the summer looking for both DoF and a manager would be highly foolish and typical of the way we have been run over the last few years.
Every top manager had to start somewhere with a big club though so why can't we be that with Solskjaer. Big risk but when we see how we can play football without being tied to a rigid defensive structure then every candidate mentioned could do a great job here.
I do want Ole to stick it to those cnuts in the media who said we should be giving the interim position to Bruce or Hughes because "they know the club". I value an opinion but that is fecking madness, they deserve to be fined a months wages for a saying something like that.
 

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Our situation is pretty convenient at the moment, if this performance isn't a one off and we can show title winning form until the end of the season then we can just keep him on, otherwise we've got 6 months or so to continue scouting for the right fit. No need to rush into anything right now.
 

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He’s gonna have to finish the season with a pretty high win ratio to be seriously considered... like 75%-80%

People are possibly getting carried away already if they think he's already a serious candidate. All the opposition scouts have undoubtedly watched that match last night and now have a rough idea of what we do... I imagine a good counter-attacking team could really give us problems with the gaps we opened up last night at times.
 

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He’s gonna have to finish the season with a pretty high win ratio to be seriously considered... like 75%-80%

People are possibly getting carried away already if they think he's already a serious candidate. All the opposition scouts have undoubtedly watched that match last night and now have a rough idea of what we do... I imagine a good counter-attacking team could really give us problems with the gaps we opened up last night at times.
Well, while I agree with this, its also naive to think our coaching team wouldn't think about this. So at this point its really irrelevant now until we actually face a team like that.
 

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Honestly it also depends so much on who's appointed as DOF.

If it's someone who can work with Ole and Ole performs really above and beyond expectations these next few months, then it could be a goer.
 

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This isn’t a question anyone can answer right now. Unless we already have an agreement with Pochettino that for obvious reasons can’t be publicly disclosed, Ole remaining on as manager is a possibility.

If we consistently play brilliantly, if we claw back into fourth by season’s end and if we bring down several big clubs starting with PSG in the CL the club would have to give Ole serious consideration. If we haven’t already signed an agreement with Pochettino by then.
 

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United have to get it right this time, sadly many of us thought United had got it right at least 2 out of 3 times in recent years.

Poch would be my choice, right attitude and behaviour on and off the pitch, would love Ole as permanent manager, and who knows what the next few months might bring.

Whoever it is needs to be in place very quickly after the end of the season,( days not weeks or months ) with time to plan and bring in players, and get the squad training and
understanding what is need for the next season.
 

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If we had a Dof right now and the performances warranted it the club should definitely consider Ole. But to not do the groundwork and go in to the summer looking for both DoF and a manager would be highly foolish and typical of the way we have been run over the last few years.
Every top manager had to start somewhere with a big club though so why can't we be that with Solskjaer. Big risk but when we see how we can play football without being tied to a rigid defensive structure then every candidate mentioned could do a great job here.
I do want Ole to stick it to those cnuts in the media who said we should be giving the interim position to Bruce or Hughes because "they know the club". I value an opinion but that is fecking madness, they deserve to be fined a months wages for a saying something like that.
He's given 6 mths to awe us. A once in a bluemoon chances he should take with both arms. Not many are privileged to even had this chance.
 

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Solskjaer had mediocre results at molde, and disaster results at cardiff. I don't think he would make it permanent, unless he does a miracle like achive top 4 or play CL final and barely to loose it
 

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This is a discussion for the end of the season.It is like taking about events in 2019 when we are not there yet.
 

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Depends more on quality of play than actual results. Just like people mentioned here already a fluke title win isn't really a good indicator if someone is a decent long term solution.
 

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Solskjaer had mediocre results at molde, and disaster results at cardiff. I don't think he would make it permanent, unless he does a miracle like achive top 4 or play CL final and barely to loose it
I thought he has great record there? Molde never win the league in their history before, and Ole had already won them 2 league titles, and previous 2 seasons his team finished 2nd place too, with highest scoring record in the league?
 

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Mourinho is a world class manager, but was a terrible fit for the club.

Even if Ole has his weaknesses, the fact he's such a great fit should be enough imo.

On paper it might not look like the perfect appointment. But when the chemistry is there, it's there. We'd be foolish not to make him permanent if he can keep the dressing room on side.

We're a team of super talented, super expensive players. A good man manager can get more out of them than a tactical genius. Hell, you could argue that's exactly where Fergie excelled and Jose failed at United.
 

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Solskjaer had mediocre results at molde, and disaster results at cardiff. I don't think he would make it permanent, unless he does a miracle like achive top 4 or play CL final and barely to loose it
He won back to back titles with Molde. Not that the Norwegian league is worth looking at though.
 

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Under the new structure he needs to show that he can get the best out of the players he has. The best way to show that is for us to get results against teams that are arguably better than us. We need to see how good a tactician he can be.

I would absolutely love it if he turned out to be the right man.
 

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Feel it is far too early for this kind of discussion. If we'd lost yesterday would we have been saying he should be sacked? I hope he does well enough that he's in contention come the end of the season. That's when it's a relevant discussion - end of the season.
 

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And if we finished the season very strongly and it appeared that Solskjaer was up to the job then Woodward has a big decision to make for the long term interests of the club.

There could be no better scenario than Solskjaer, Phelan and Carrick leading United to success. If it was apparent that this had legs, it would be very difficult not to allow them to continue.
There are better managers out there who will get us to play an exciting brand of football,and yes,like Solskjær they have good man management skills.We appointed 3 managers that were instinctively defensive/reactive....Lets just appoint an attacking coach who will let the lads play with freedom and who knows how to handle big players and big egos.

I mean,why would someone want Solskjær ahead of a Pochettino or even a Zidane?Because Ole will set his team up in an attacking way?But so will Pochettino and Zidane....Because Oles a lovely guy with good man management skills?But Pochettino and Zidane also have the same skills...

Just because 2 high profile managers failed,it doesn’t mean that we go to the other extreme and give the job to a rookie?Lets appoint someone who’s committed to playing attacking football,with the experience of managing at the highest level....
 

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So many Debbie downers in this forum. We should all be hoping he can keep it up so that he gets the job and turns the club around.
 

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Maybe there are some people who are great at managing top teams and would struggle with less accomplished ones. And some people might be great with inspiring the minnows but would be less successful with a big team (Moyes?).

Hopefully, Solskjaer is one of the former, and this would explain his bellyflop at Cardiff. His handling of the media so far has, in my opinion, been rather impressive.
 

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Maybe there are some people who are great at managing top teams and would struggle with less accomplished ones. And some people might be great with inspiring the minnows but would be less successful with a big team (Moyes?).

Hopefully, Solskjaer is one of the former, and this would explain his bellyflop at Cardiff. His handling of the media so far has, in my opinion, been rather impressive.
According to Bellamy when he got there the situation was already toxic. He got there and tried to implement his ideas and realized really quickly that it wouldn't work. Then he tried to play negative football and it continued to go per shaped. The club was mess, not sure if any conclusions can be made from that stint.
 

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Feel it is far too early for this kind of discussion. If we'd lost yesterday would we have been saying he should be sacked? I hope he does well enough that he's in contention come the end of the season. That's when it's a relevant discussion - end of the season.
But we didn't lose, we won rather convincingly, in fact, with arguably the best overall performance post-Fergie.

Let people dream a little, there's no harm in it.
 

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There are better managers out there who will get us to play an exciting brand of football,and yes,like Solskjær they have good man management skills.We appointed 3 managers that were instinctively defensive/reactive....Lets just appoint an attacking coach who will let the lads play with freedom and who knows how to handle big players and big egos.

I mean,why would someone want Solskjær ahead of a Pochettino or even a Zidane?Because Ole will set his team up in an attacking way?But so will Pochettino and Zidane....Because Oles a lovely guy with good man management skills?But Pochettino and Zidane also have the same skills...

Just because 2 high profile managers failed,it doesn’t mean that we go to the other extreme and give the job to a rookie?Lets appoint someone who’s committed to playing attacking football,with the experience of managing at the highest level....
Zidane and Pep were both rookies when hired by huge clubs.
 

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Even Youtuber took football highlight to next level -

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer vs Cardiff (Away) FHD 1080p - Cardiff vs Manchester United 1-5

:lol::lol:
 

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Woodward was grinning like a Cheshire car yesterday because I'm sure this is all part of the masterplan.

Solskjaer looks half good, so hire him on the cheap.

No way we're buying Poch out of his contract.