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[Poll] Next permanent United manager
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Ole all day long.Give him a chance, he's earn it.Don't rate Poch at all.I haven't seen Poch change anything when they're losing by one goal,he has no plan B.
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Poch's complete disregard of the cups is fairly unappealing.
United should be playing to win every competition they're in, even if it's with the kids/second string.
I don't see now how United can go for any other manager apart from OGS, I don't think they thought this interim manager choice through. The next manager (assuming it's not Solskjaer) is going to have to have an insane season to avoid any questioning from the media/fans about whether the club made the right choice in not keeping Ole.
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United should be playing to win every competition they're in, even if it's with the kids/second string.
I don't see now how United can go for any other manager apart from OGS, I don't think they thought this interim manager choice through. The next manager (assuming it's not Solskjaer) is going to have to have an insane season to avoid any questioning from the media/fans about whether the club made the right choice in not keeping Ole.
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I think that's exactly what they did. They even agreed a fee with Molde to be paid if the appointment wast to be permanent. The only way they could have hired Ole was as an interrim first.
Wow, if Pochettino said the FA cup isn't a real trophy he's worse than I thought he is.
It's fecking appalling. If I were a Spurs fan I'd be furious. Spurs have a rich history in the FA cup, he's effectively saying their previous wins mean feck all so don't count them. You thought he would know this being the manager and all.
That attitude won't wash at United.
Maybe we can reset the poll with Zidane, Ole and Poch. I mean it's quite clear some of those candidates will not be considered even if we want them to. I mean Gasp, Marco Silva, Eddie Howe; they won't be coming here.
Christ sake, what mentality would he have were he to join United?Priority will always be to 4?
Not good enough i'm afraid, the priority should always be win every trophy that that you play for and the thing about Ole is that that is what he would do.
The man is United to the core,win every game, if you score one we'll score two! That is the mentality we need after 5 years in the attacking/entertaining/winning wilderness.
Ole's in his mid forties, another era could be on the horizon.
I'm getting too old to have the patience to throw another couple of years trying to find the right manager to play the United way when one of our own is already sitting in the managers seat, give him the fecking job and let the good times roll again
.Wenger would be proud
We can look even closer. Arsenal swept the team he's been building for 4 years away comfortably whilst ole within matter of month went to same Arsenal making 5 changes and still schooled them. Yet we still need to face tough opposition or wait for reactions to defeat to give Ole job over pochettino?
Would be a massive mistake to bring in Pochettino. He'd flop hard but worse than that is that it would be another failed appointment when we were so close to the right one with Ole.
In most countries, winning the cup would be seen as a pretty big deal. Poch prioritizing the league top4 for CL, is not a great comment towards a potential future employer who really prefers to win everything they compete in. If he ever shows for interview, that is definitely going to be brought up
Surely a new poll with daft options removed is warranted at this point?
Maybe another after the City game. We'll have played PSG twice and arsenal, Liverpool and City at home by then.
To be fair, it's a reasonable thing to say about Spurs right now; they need stability until they get settled in their new stadium. If he was United manager saying that about United I wouldn't be happy at all, but for Spurs at this particular moment it's fairly understandable.
He shouldn't be saying that whatever the circumstances. Sounds defeatist and sponsors pay a lot of money for the privilege. Such comments could undermine any future value of sponsorship deals.
1.Solskjaer
2. Zidane
3. Allegri
2. Zidane
3. Allegri
We'd be back to the realms of 6th and 7th with Pochettino, absolutely don't want!!
There's absolutely no excuse for those quotes, don't care who you're managing, that nonsense is not what anyone wants to hear. I hope they bomb out of the top 4 and end up getting fecked by the new stadium.
Spurs have got their best side in a long time, it won't last forever, and they've got a manager who's throwing away a shot a glory year in, year out because he doesn't believe it's worth winning? Do you think Spurs fans are going to sit around in 10 years time and talk about this great side and all the 4th place CL spots they got? Or do you think they'd rather be talking about those cups they could have picked up if their manager wasn't shit?
Since when does an FA Cup or League Cup equate to glory? Glory for a club like Spurs now is a PL or UCL regardless if they've yet to win anything. The only glory to be had winning one of the domestic cups is for the likes of your Swansea's and Wigan's. Spurs' aim is to become established in the top 4 and to the challenge for major honours
I'd also add just because Poch is saying what he's saying as Spurs manager doesn't mean he'd say the same if he were managing here. There are different expectations at different clubs
Spurs have won one trophy in nearly 30 years and nothing for 10 years. The fans need something to enjoy but not only that, trophies often breed a winning mentality that currently as a club they sorely lack.
You have two options, pick one.
1. Top 4 finish and a League cup or FA Cup.
2. A top 4 finish.
Whether you like it or not, the top 4 isn't a trophy, if you want to treat it like one then go ahead but it won't fill your trophy cabinet. It's perfectly normal for a team to compete on multiple fronts and still do well. It isn't a binary choice between top 4 or a trophy.
I also think Spurs fans would be offend at you belittling their club as a team without ambition.
I'm sure their fans on the whole enjoy watching the likes of Kane, Alli and Eriksen every week
Winning a domestic cup isn't going to change how this Spurs side is looked at as the goal posts will immediately be moved to the 'Spurs side that didn't win the league'. FA Cups didn't gloss over Wengers final 15 odd years at the club and they won't gloss over this Spurs side not winning a league title with the best side they've had in the PL era
Many fans on this forum are using this as a stick to beat Poch with because they want Ole to stay but whether they like it or not what's more important for this Spurs side is to consistently finish in the top 4, to consistently finish above their London rivals and to cement theirselves as one of the top sides in the league rather than being a flash in the pan like the likes of Leeds and Newcastle were. That and they need the UCL money.
Spurs were in a league cup semi final just 3 days ago, it's not like they've written off both domestic competitions is it. They were penalty kicks away from being in a final with a massively depleted squad, a squad that at this moment in time cannot juggle the PL, that Semi Final and an FA Cup tie
I'm starting to think Ole with current back room set up.
Forget the 8 wins (although that does help) he seems to get the club and what we should be. That's more important to me.
I think he wouldn't be against a DOF (who would have to be a similar mould and understand what Manchester United is).
But giving ole the job for next few years might be the ointment we need to help rebuild and restructure the club back to where it was when fergie left. If he can win something(s) along the way fantastic.
Forget the 8 wins (although that does help) he seems to get the club and what we should be. That's more important to me.
I think he wouldn't be against a DOF (who would have to be a similar mould and understand what Manchester United is).
But giving ole the job for next few years might be the ointment we need to help rebuild and restructure the club back to where it was when fergie left. If he can win something(s) along the way fantastic.
Ever since he got brought in Ole has been passing every test with flying colours and Poch has been showing signs of not being cut out for the job. Gotta admit it's getting to the point where it seems like a mistake to go with any of the available options over Ole.
The likes of Swansea and Wigan are exceptions. The domestic trophies in the last 10 years have been taken by top teams. Some of them not as good as Spurs have been in some particular seasons.
It's depressing to this old fan that the FA Cup is now considered a triviality by some.....used to be that getting to Wembley and lifting the cup was almost as nice as the league. I think Poch is being realistic, but it has not changed my mind about him either way- he's a good coach with a pleasing way of playing. Maybe he'll take the final step when he has more resources than Spurs seem willing or able to provide him. I admire his public face and general way of handling himself under pressure but I really want someone coaching us who thinks of us as the only place they really want to be. I know, it's a modern game and a business but Ole's ties to the club carry some weight with me even if I think we should wait to make a final decision. I can't see Ole coveting the Madrid job or thinking 'I must test myself in Italy'. I'm not so sure Poch would feel that way about us. Call me old-fashioned but I want someone managing who feels we're the pinnacle, not a stepping stone.
Has to be Ole. I can't wait to watch Utd play now and it has been too long since I had that feeling. But wouldn't it be funny if by Pool beating us like they did cost them the title, With us getting Ole in and we beat them next time costing them the title. Wonder if they would see the irony.
There is no reason to vote anyone but Ole so far.
He's been flawless
He's been flawless
Very tempted with going with Ole, but right now I still think Zidane is the best choice
I'm still on the Pochettino, love Ole but we need a manager that will make us punch above our weight.
I think Ole and Zidane are making good(very good at Real) players play to their potential, we need a manager that makes us play beyond our potential if we want to beat compete at the
top table.
I think Ole and Zidane are making good(very good at Real) players play to their potential, we need a manager that makes us play beyond our potential if we want to beat compete at the
top table.
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There is no weight above Man United weight. We might be going through a difficult time, but it’s still one of the top managerial jobs in the world and the expectations are always extremely high.
It doesn't matter who we bring into the squad, it'd be a huge mistake to stop this great confidence and vibe the team is having right now!, to me its very clear we should give OLE a chance.
As a club l agree but The Glaziers are not going to spend PSG, City, Real or Barcelona money but will spend Liverpool, Bayern, and Chelsea money. We need a manager that can build a winning team that plays attractive football without
having to spend PSG money.
You conveniently left out the part where they were winning and all they had to do was not concede two goals to make it through the tie. Again, poor set up from Pochettino, going away from home at the Bridge and setting up with Llorente as he would with Kane when they're very different players. There was no game management and Spurs shipped in two goals in the first half. When has a team with cup or title ambitions been that open in the first half of a semi final, that they're winning!?
You're just making excuses for him now and non of the current behaviour he's shown would be tolerated at United, and for good reason.
We're arguably the biggest club in the world and we need to punch above our weight? To what? Biggest club in the Universe?
You effectively want Pochettino to come in and hope he does as well as Solskjaer?
Changed to Ole. He's got me so excited about watching United again and that got him my vote.
I think it will be interesting to discuss the line between good/bad(perceived) managers.
I think it will be interesting to discuss the line between good/bad(perceived) managers.
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We have outspent most or all those teams. We’ve also paid massive wages. We’re one of the biggest names in all sport. How you feel we’re underdogs is explained to me only by your buying Jose’s gaslighting narrative.
Oh boy. Jose really brainwashed some of the supporters believing we are a mid table club and he was a miracle happened to us.
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