Television The Disappearance of Madeleine Mccann Netflix Documentary

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Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
 

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Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
I don’t know, but people have different ways of coping so I wouldn’t look at it as a red flag.
 

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Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
You shouldn't try to assume how a person should/would react in situations like this, because it'll be different for every person. What would be "normal behaviour" according to you?
 

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I obviously knew about the story because it was everywhere back in the day, but I actively make an effort not to watch the news or read any of the papers, and the fact that I knew so little about this case made the Netflix documentary really interesting, and really quite sad.

Had no clue the McCanns had been trying to have a child for years, before Madeleine was eventually conceived using IVF. Didn't know she had two twin siblings - let alone the fact they there were in the same room and stayed asleep throughout the whole event. I'd also figured that the press would be brutal about the whole thing, but I was still frustrated at how callous they really were.

What to make of it all? It's really hard to say. Tough to rule out any involvement from the McCanns, but different people do behave differently, and I think it's a shame their mannerisms are being portrayed as an admission of guilt.

I'd like to hope they one day find Madeleine, but spent the entire series thinking that there's no chance whatsoever. Found a glimmer of hope in the stories of others being found after having been missing for many years, and liked the fact that the documentary touched on the wider picture - Madeleine herself may be lost forever, but there's still time for her story to be used as an incentive to do more for the countless other lost children.

Thought-provoking stuff, and if you haven't followed the story, the Netflix documentary is well worth a watch.
 

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Just finished watching this.

If you got to choose between definitively finding out what happened to Madeline or United winning the Champions League. Where would you watch the final?

If you were offered the complete true story to either the Madaleine McCann mystery or the Steven Avery one, which would you pick?
 

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If you were offered the complete true story to either the Madaleine McCann mystery or the Steven Avery one, which would you pick?
In that scenario I'd choose Madeline. Watched the first Making a Murderer and concluded they were innocent and the boyfriend was actually the one that did it. However the documentary left out a lot of incriminating information apparently which altered some of the evidence and personally I didn't like any of the Avery's they are a family of imbeciles who don't inspire a lot of sympathy so I wouldn't choose that mystery.

Whereas in the Madeline case, it's cost millions to search for her and I strongly feel there's a malevolent truth which the McCanns are hiding from us. Love for them to be nailed for it if my suspicions are correct. What about you?

If I could find out any conspiracy it would be 9/11. That damn Bush...:nono:
 

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In that scenario I'd choose Madeline. Watched the first Making a Murderer and concluded they were innocent and the boyfriend was actually the one that did it. However the documentary left out a lot of incriminating information apparently which altered some of the evidence and personally I didn't like any of the Avery's they are a family of imbeciles who don't inspire a lot of sympathy so I wouldn't choose that mystery.

Whereas in the Madeline case, it's cost millions to search for her and I strongly feel there's a malevolent truth which the McCanns are hiding from us. Love for them to be nailed for it if my suspicions are correct. What about you?

If I could find out any conspiracy it would be 9/11. That damn Bush...:nono:
Agree, would also pick the McCann mystery. Don't think the parents killed her personally. But guess there could be something big they've not shared.

Ha yeah the 9/11 one and the JFK one probably
 

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I think they definately were involved. It's hard to pinpoint whether they killed her or knowingly sold her.
 

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I think they definately were involved. It's hard to pinpoint whether they killed her or knowingly sold her.
Why on earth would they sell her ffs. They spent money through IVF trying to have her in the first place. IF theg accidentally killed her then it was through sleeping pills, but I highly doubt that happened. There were so many people there who would have needed to be in on it to get away with her murder. Can’t see it personally.
 

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Why on earth would they sell her ffs. They spent money through IVF trying to have her in the first place. IF theg accidentally killed her then it was through sleeping pills, but I highly doubt that happened. There were so many people there who would have needed to be in on it to get away with her murder. Can’t see it personally.
They wouldn't have murdered her themselves, they'd have paid someone to do it...

While I'm sceptical that they actually murdered her, I do think there's more to the story than they're letting on...
 

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They wouldn't have murdered her themselves, they'd have paid someone to do it...

While I'm sceptical that they actually murdered her, I do think there's more to the story than they're letting on...
Why on earth would they do that? Only thing that is any way likely (though still very unlikely) is that there was an accidental death somehow and panic ensued which perhaps led them to try and cover it up.
 

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Why on earth would they do that? Only thing that is any way likely (though still very unlikely) is that there was an accidental death somehow and panic ensued which perhaps led them to try and cover it up.
But then why go down for dinner and agree to folk looking in on Maddie. Why not just say you were sick and not raise any alarm until morning?
 

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The conspiracy theories seem more and more crazy each time I read/hear one. I don’t think the parents were involved but leaving the kids alone in the first place was ridiculous.
 

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They must be the dumbest people ever, murder their kid which is pretty fecking stupid in and of itself and then dedicate their lives to uncovering their own crime.
 

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But then why go down for dinner and agree to folk looking in on Maddie. Why not just say you were sick and not raise any alarm until morning?
Because having multiple witnesses to the moment when they found out that she was “missing” would give them an alibi and make it more believable that she vanished on that night. Chances are she could have died a day earlier (not sure if there’s evidence of when she was last seen alive) and they could have planned to stage the vanishing act during the dinner to make it seem more believable. I’m not saying that’s what happened but just a theory as to why they went down for dinner.
 

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They must be the dumbest people ever, murder their kid which is pretty fecking stupid in and of itself and then dedicate their lives to uncovering their own crime.
Yet simultaneously two of the greatest hitmen of all time, killing and disposing of their victim so expertly that even the combination of forensics, eyewitnesses, CCTV, the police, 24 hour media coverage, a global search spanning over a decade and the suspicions of amateur internet detectives around the world couldn't find a trace.

All this while in a country they don't know. I mean imagine how brilliant they must be at getting rid of bodies when they're not on holiday?
 

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More than likely this probably has to do with them lying about how many times they went back to check on their kids during the night as they didn't want to look like bad parents than anything more sinister.

Does seem like their kids were giving something to help them sleep though, but a man was seen with a kid also I believe she was kidnapped.
You're referring to the man carrying a sleeping child? If so he was ruled out.
 

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Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
I know Kate McCann continued to go on daily runs but that was probably her way of coping.
 

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Because having multiple witnesses to the moment when they found out that she was “missing” would give them an alibi and make it more believable that she vanished on that night. Chances are she could have died a day earlier (not sure if there’s evidence of when she was last seen alive) and they could have planned to stage the vanishing act during the dinner to make it seem more believable. I’m not saying that’s what happened but just a theory as to why they went down for dinner.
She could not have died a day earlier. She was literally seen by other people hours before she went missing.
 

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If you were offered the complete true story to either the Madaleine McCann mystery or the Steven Avery one, which would you pick?
Steven Avery’s case is not really mystery, we know what happened there.

I have actually been quite a bit into true crime for the last year and a half and if I have to choose one mystery I would like to know the answer to it is Brian Shaffer’s disappearance. In most disappearances at least there are some plausible scenarios, in this one there is just absolutely nothing that makes sense.
 

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She could not have died a day earlier. She was literally seen by other people hours before she went missing.
I do actually feel very sorry for them, having to deal with conspiracies. It’s 11 years on and myths like that still persist. I hate people commenting on things without knowing literally every fact available.
 

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I don't know how anyone can have a strong opinion on what happened either way.

There's feck all evidence to go on really. I can't decide between any of the potential explanations, it's all baffling what happened.

Sometimes I think the parents were in on it in some way but then others I think they just made a terrible parental decision and paid for it in the worst cruelest way possible.
 

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They must be the dumbest people ever, murder their kid which is pretty fecking stupid in and of itself and then dedicate their lives to uncovering their own crime.
If they had anything at all to do with it they would have played the grieving parents and then slowly drifted into the background. They is no plausible scenario where they would have made the efforts that they have to keep the search alive.
 

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Mate there’s literally feck all evidence to link them to it, not a single drop of evidence. Nothing. Zero. Zilch.

The DNA was bullshit. The dog was sketchy at best and for the police’s story to be true they would have had a dead baby corpse lying about hidden from the media and cops for minimum 25 days before casually driving her away in that suspected van.

It’s a packed holiday resort, they’re away with 6 friends in a foreign country. Come on.
Agreed.

People just love a conspiracy to make themselves feel important.
 

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Is that the Goncalo Amaral guy? Yeah, he was previously convicted of perjury after he falsified documents in another missing child case where officers were accused of torturing a suspect. "Piece of work" seems a fair description.
Horrible case that one. The body of the child was never found, but evidence she was killed surfaced. Assumed to have been fed to pigs. Both her mother and uncle (mother's brother) covicted for the murder. Speculation is that the child caught them commiting incest.

They have just been released from prison, time flies.
 

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Horrible case that one. The body of the child was never found, but evidence she was killed surfaced. Assumed to have been fed to pigs. Both her mother and uncle (mother's brother) covicted for the murder. Speculation is that the child caught them commiting incest.

They have just been released from prison, time flies.
Didn't the uncle admit to selling her in the end? Thought that's what it said in the documentary.
 

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Didn't the uncle admit to selling her in the end? Thought that's what it said in the documentary.
Not to my knowledge. He confessed murdering her.
 

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Not to my knowledge. He confessed murdering her.
The mother withdrew her confession a day after, and was subsequently proven to beaten by police officers in the interrogation. The uncle supposedly told his cellmate that Joana was sold to some rich folks. The family supposedly made calls to the police to investigate the link between Joana's disappearance and Madeline's. Add in the fact (?) that this is the first murder trial to go ahead without finding the body, and you have to say there's some possibility that she's still alive.

In any case, it seems very unlikely the confession was truthful or accurate, given it hinges on the idea they could fit a body into their small freezer. It's a weird confession to make if it's not true, but the usual triggers of a false confession are there.
 

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Steven Avery’s case is not really mystery, we know what happened there.

I have actually been quite a bit into true crime for the last year and a half and if I have to choose one mystery I would like to know the answer to it is Brian Shaffer’s disappearance. In most disappearances at least there are some plausible scenarios, in this one there is just absolutely nothing that makes sense.
Here's one: security camera was shit and missed him leaving. He then falls into the river accidentally.
 

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Steven Avery’s case is not really mystery, we know what happened there.

I have actually been quite a bit into true crime for the last year and a half and if I have to choose one mystery I would like to know the answer to it is Brian Shaffer’s disappearance. In most disappearances at least there are some plausible scenarios, in this one there is just absolutely nothing that makes sense.
Not heard of this one, will have a look.
 

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She withdrew her confession, but her brother never did. And he reconstituted the crime scene later, which presumably included putting the body in the freezer. I find the idea of selling an 8 year old child in 21st century Portugal, some rather absurd possibility, it's not exactly a baby. Also wasn't there some forensic evidence?

Still all very fishy and damning for that police squad in terms of prpcedures, but I find it unlikely that she wasn't killed in those circumstances.

Also, anyone knows if using pigs to dispose of bodies (leaving little to no evidence) is realistic or just movie stuff?

And why do you people know so much about this? Had no idea it had been an internationally famous case.
 
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