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The caf's Camus.
Him and his Facebook mates.He’s one of ‘those’ guys.
Just don’t mention contrails...
Him and his Facebook mates.He’s one of ‘those’ guys.
What I find bizarre is that keefy is in the McCanns did it camp and MJ inoccent camp. Talking about getting your bearings wrong...
I don’t know, but people have different ways of coping so I wouldn’t look at it as a red flag.Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
You shouldn't try to assume how a person should/would react in situations like this, because it'll be different for every person. What would be "normal behaviour" according to you?Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
Just finished watching this.
If you got to choose between definitively finding out what happened to Madeline or United winning the Champions League. Where would you watch the final?
In that scenario I'd choose Madeline. Watched the first Making a Murderer and concluded they were innocent and the boyfriend was actually the one that did it. However the documentary left out a lot of incriminating information apparently which altered some of the evidence and personally I didn't like any of the Avery's they are a family of imbeciles who don't inspire a lot of sympathy so I wouldn't choose that mystery.If you were offered the complete true story to either the Madaleine McCann mystery or the Steven Avery one, which would you pick?
Agree, would also pick the McCann mystery. Don't think the parents killed her personally. But guess there could be something big they've not shared.In that scenario I'd choose Madeline. Watched the first Making a Murderer and concluded they were innocent and the boyfriend was actually the one that did it. However the documentary left out a lot of incriminating information apparently which altered some of the evidence and personally I didn't like any of the Avery's they are a family of imbeciles who don't inspire a lot of sympathy so I wouldn't choose that mystery.
Whereas in the Madeline case, it's cost millions to search for her and I strongly feel there's a malevolent truth which the McCanns are hiding from us. Love for them to be nailed for it if my suspicions are correct. What about you?
If I could find out any conspiracy it would be 9/11. That damn Bush...
Like where she's buried...Agree, would also pick the McCann mystery. Don't think the parents killed her personally. But guess there could be something big they've not shared.
Ha yeah the 9/11 one and the JFK one probably
Why on earth would they sell her ffs. They spent money through IVF trying to have her in the first place. IF theg accidentally killed her then it was through sleeping pills, but I highly doubt that happened. There were so many people there who would have needed to be in on it to get away with her murder. Can’t see it personally.I think they definately were involved. It's hard to pinpoint whether they killed her or knowingly sold her.
They wouldn't have murdered her themselves, they'd have paid someone to do it...Why on earth would they sell her ffs. They spent money through IVF trying to have her in the first place. IF theg accidentally killed her then it was through sleeping pills, but I highly doubt that happened. There were so many people there who would have needed to be in on it to get away with her murder. Can’t see it personally.
FFSI think they definately were involved. It's hard to pinpoint whether they killed her or knowingly sold her.
Why on earth would they do that? Only thing that is any way likely (though still very unlikely) is that there was an accidental death somehow and panic ensued which perhaps led them to try and cover it up.They wouldn't have murdered her themselves, they'd have paid someone to do it...
While I'm sceptical that they actually murdered her, I do think there's more to the story than they're letting on...
But then why go down for dinner and agree to folk looking in on Maddie. Why not just say you were sick and not raise any alarm until morning?Why on earth would they do that? Only thing that is any way likely (though still very unlikely) is that there was an accidental death somehow and panic ensued which perhaps led them to try and cover it up.
They wouldn't have murdered her themselves, they'd have paid someone to do it...
HmmI'm actually dumb founded how the majority of this forum actually believes the parents had sweet fa to do with this.
Because having multiple witnesses to the moment when they found out that she was “missing” would give them an alibi and make it more believable that she vanished on that night. Chances are she could have died a day earlier (not sure if there’s evidence of when she was last seen alive) and they could have planned to stage the vanishing act during the dinner to make it seem more believable. I’m not saying that’s what happened but just a theory as to why they went down for dinner.But then why go down for dinner and agree to folk looking in on Maddie. Why not just say you were sick and not raise any alarm until morning?
Yet simultaneously two of the greatest hitmen of all time, killing and disposing of their victim so expertly that even the combination of forensics, eyewitnesses, CCTV, the police, 24 hour media coverage, a global search spanning over a decade and the suspicions of amateur internet detectives around the world couldn't find a trace.They must be the dumbest people ever, murder their kid which is pretty fecking stupid in and of itself and then dedicate their lives to uncovering their own crime.
You're referring to the man carrying a sleeping child? If so he was ruled out.More than likely this probably has to do with them lying about how many times they went back to check on their kids during the night as they didn't want to look like bad parents than anything more sinister.
Does seem like their kids were giving something to help them sleep though, but a man was seen with a kid also I believe she was kidnapped.
I know Kate McCann continued to go on daily runs but that was probably her way of coping.Is it true that the father played Tennis a few days after her disappearance? The parents seem questionable and are probably hiding things because they don’t want to look like bad parents. However I just can’t see any plausible reason how they killed her
Come on now.I think they definately were involved. It's hard to pinpoint whether they killed her or knowingly sold her.
not the sharpest tools in the box, those McCann'sThey must be the dumbest people ever, murder their kid which is pretty fecking stupid in and of itself and then dedicate their lives to uncovering their own crime.
She could not have died a day earlier. She was literally seen by other people hours before she went missing.Because having multiple witnesses to the moment when they found out that she was “missing” would give them an alibi and make it more believable that she vanished on that night. Chances are she could have died a day earlier (not sure if there’s evidence of when she was last seen alive) and they could have planned to stage the vanishing act during the dinner to make it seem more believable. I’m not saying that’s what happened but just a theory as to why they went down for dinner.
Steven Avery’s case is not really mystery, we know what happened there.If you were offered the complete true story to either the Madaleine McCann mystery or the Steven Avery one, which would you pick?
I do actually feel very sorry for them, having to deal with conspiracies. It’s 11 years on and myths like that still persist. I hate people commenting on things without knowing literally every fact available.She could not have died a day earlier. She was literally seen by other people hours before she went missing.
If they had anything at all to do with it they would have played the grieving parents and then slowly drifted into the background. They is no plausible scenario where they would have made the efforts that they have to keep the search alive.They must be the dumbest people ever, murder their kid which is pretty fecking stupid in and of itself and then dedicate their lives to uncovering their own crime.
Agreed.Mate there’s literally feck all evidence to link them to it, not a single drop of evidence. Nothing. Zero. Zilch.
The DNA was bullshit. The dog was sketchy at best and for the police’s story to be true they would have had a dead baby corpse lying about hidden from the media and cops for minimum 25 days before casually driving her away in that suspected van.
It’s a packed holiday resort, they’re away with 6 friends in a foreign country. Come on.
WT actual F?I think they definately were involved. It's hard to pinpoint whether they killed her or knowingly sold her.
Horrible case that one. The body of the child was never found, but evidence she was killed surfaced. Assumed to have been fed to pigs. Both her mother and uncle (mother's brother) covicted for the murder. Speculation is that the child caught them commiting incest.Is that the Goncalo Amaral guy? Yeah, he was previously convicted of perjury after he falsified documents in another missing child case where officers were accused of torturing a suspect. "Piece of work" seems a fair description.
Didn't the uncle admit to selling her in the end? Thought that's what it said in the documentary.Horrible case that one. The body of the child was never found, but evidence she was killed surfaced. Assumed to have been fed to pigs. Both her mother and uncle (mother's brother) covicted for the murder. Speculation is that the child caught them commiting incest.
They have just been released from prison, time flies.
Not to my knowledge. He confessed murdering her.Didn't the uncle admit to selling her in the end? Thought that's what it said in the documentary.
The mother withdrew her confession a day after, and was subsequently proven to beaten by police officers in the interrogation. The uncle supposedly told his cellmate that Joana was sold to some rich folks. The family supposedly made calls to the police to investigate the link between Joana's disappearance and Madeline's. Add in the fact (?) that this is the first murder trial to go ahead without finding the body, and you have to say there's some possibility that she's still alive.Not to my knowledge. He confessed murdering her.
Here's one: security camera was shit and missed him leaving. He then falls into the river accidentally.Steven Avery’s case is not really mystery, we know what happened there.
I have actually been quite a bit into true crime for the last year and a half and if I have to choose one mystery I would like to know the answer to it is Brian Shaffer’s disappearance. In most disappearances at least there are some plausible scenarios, in this one there is just absolutely nothing that makes sense.
Not heard of this one, will have a look.Steven Avery’s case is not really mystery, we know what happened there.
I have actually been quite a bit into true crime for the last year and a half and if I have to choose one mystery I would like to know the answer to it is Brian Shaffer’s disappearance. In most disappearances at least there are some plausible scenarios, in this one there is just absolutely nothing that makes sense.