goin4glory
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He's average. Let him go to PSG.
He has settled alright on the bench. Cannot get ahead of two academy grads even for 15 minutes of game time. Hard to see how he'll "settle" without time on the pitch.Fred is a good passer he just hasnt completely settled yet. His passing is the last thing I would be worried about with him.
I would be happy with that trade to be honest.Maybe PSG have made this move in spite due to us potentially signing Rabiot.
probably not
He has settled alright on the bench. Cannot get ahead of two academy grads even for 15 minutes of game time. Hard to see how he'll "settle" without time on the pitch.
He is decent passer. Haven't seen anything that qualifies is as good. Good passing also involves vision and awareness, two areas where he has looked lost so far. He reminds of Anderson; which definitely is not a good omen.
He's played less because theirs a language barrier. the manager wanted someone that he could get the message across too hence why he saw no game time until we got to the bare bones. His composure on the ball and passing was one of the reasons we could combat PSGs midfield and the manager said it was a good demonstration why the club bought him.He has settled alright on the bench. Cannot get ahead of two academy grads even for 15 minutes of game time. Hard to see how he'll "settle" without time on the pitch.
He is decent passer. Haven't seen anything that qualifies is as good. Good passing also involves vision and awareness, two areas where he has looked lost so far. He reminds of Anderson; which definitely is not a good omen.
Come on. The last manager was Portuguese and half the squad is filled with Portugese/Spanish speakers. You have concocted the language barrier excuse, I don't know from where.He's played less because theirs a language barrier. the manager wanted someone that he could get the message across too hence why he saw no game time until we got to the bare bones. His composure on the ball and passing was one of the reasons we could combat PSGs midfield and the manager said it was a good demonstration why the club bought him.
As crazy as I might sound I genuinely think that Fred would probably flourish in Pogbas role rather than a normal cm/cdm role.He's shown good passing in his couple of good games. Obviously we're hoping for more from him but thats the one part he brings to the team. He's our best midfield passer other than Pogba and its pretty clear
True. I'd take this if thats what happens but personally I won't be convinced that Rabiot is coming on a free till he signs. Most top clubs are probably looking at him and its hard to see why hed pick usRabiot on a free, Rice or a more defensively astute DM than Matic coming in, and our midfield becomes stronger immediately.
As the AM/10 ? Or as a normal LCM? Because last time out Pogba played normal LCM. But in his recent spell of form he's basically been a 10As crazy as I might sound I genuinely think that Fred would probably flourish in Pogbas role rather than a normal cm/cdm role.
Hasn't shown nearly enough. If I go looking on youtube I am sure I can video of his bad passing and awareness too, and that likely will be 3 times longer.
He's shown good passing in his couple of good games. Obviously we're hoping for more from him but thats the one part he brings to the team. He's our best midfield passer other than Pogba and its pretty clear
The role he played against WatfordAs the AM/10 ? Or as a normal LCM? Because last time out Pogba played normal LCM. But in his recent spell of form he's basically been a 10
I have no idea if he'll settle, I've been very disappointed with him too. But he is a player who will make a couple of tackles but pass the ball more creatively than Ander, which is what you were suggesting we get. We already have that type of player. So we need to give him a good chance before getting a new oneHasn't shown nearly enough. If I go looking on youtube I am sure I can video of his bad passing and awareness too, and that likely will be 3 times longer.
I am not saying that he won't come good. However, I have very serious doubts that he'll become an integral part of the team going forward. I sincerely hope you are right and he settles, because another 50m write off isn't good for us.
Yeah attacking 10. His passing is crisp when not under pressure and he has that high energy that helps him win the ball back to then attack.As the AM/10 ? Or as a normal LCM? Because last time out Pogba played normal LCM. But in his recent spell of form he's basically been a 10
He's not being poached is he though, we're refusing (rightfully) to pay him money he's simply not worth, so he's had to look elsewhere. Of course none of this arguably would be happening if we'd not over paid for Sanchez, which has caused all sort of issues with our wage structure.We are the new Arsenal, important players leaving on a free, no title for years our best players getting poached.. sad times.
Yeah I can see that, left side of a diamond. Pogba's average position was just meeting up with Mata who was playing the 10 role.The role he played against Watford
I'm talking since OGS/Phelan arrived. Because you referenced two academy players. The previous half season is irrelevant since everyone started from clean slate. When players were falling like flies against Liverpool he didn't come off the bench. The language definitely had something to do. Infact he didn't play a match for like 2 months.Come on. The last manager was Portuguese and half the squad is filled with Portugese/Spanish speakers. You have concocted the language barrier excuse, I don't know from where.
Well the problem is that he's never been much of a goalscorer. And Pogba is one of our better goalscorers from the 10 position. So I think thats probably a bit too far forward for FredYeah attacking 10. His passing is crisp when not under pressure and he has that high energy that helps him win the ball back to then attack.
If he loses the ball as a AM it's ok but if he loses it as a CM it highlights his poor defensive ability. I think he's just crazy nervous when it comes to defending because that's why he's out of the team mainly.
It's just what I've observed from that video, he can do what pogba can when it comes to passing but not pogba good passing.
What I'm trying to say is that I think it pogba left for Madrid and he had a few games in Pogbas more offensive role I think he would flourish more than where he is currently.
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if we sell Pogba:Yeah I can see that, left side of a diamond. Pogba's average position was just meeting up with Mata who was playing the 10 role.
Yeah he's hard enough working that he can play as a side midfield position like that and go up and down the pitch. Just not hardworking enough defensively to make up for Matic's shortcomings.
Thats 1 player away from a great midfield. Dont think we'll sign Eriksen and unsure if we can even get Rabiot thoughif we sell Pogba:
Rabiot-Matic-Fred
------Eriksen------
That Kinda role.
Before anyone jumps on this post this is just to give an example...
Just an example using my Muppet imagination. Also if Pogba does leave I reckon Eriksen or Coutinho will come in.Thats 1 player away from a great midfield. Dont think we'll sign Eriksen and unsure if we can even get Rabiot though
Drama much?We are the new Arsenal, important players leaving on a free, no title for years our best players getting poached.. sad times.
Why would we let Pogba leave? Wise up peopleJust an example using my Muppet imagination. Also if Pogba does leave I reckon Eriksen or Coutinho will come in.
I'm talking about Pogba and De Gea potentially being poached, Zidane is currently openly tapping him up.He's not being poached is he though, we're refusing (rightfully) to pay him money he's simply not worth, so he's had to look elsewhere. Of course none of this arguably would be happening if we'd not over paid for Sanchez, which has caused all sort of issues with our wage structure.
Yes much drama..Drama much?
I have a feeling he will...based on absolutely nothing.Why would we let Pogba leave? Wise up people
I can tell. I hope its a nice crown you have.Yes much drama..
Chance to be part of something being built that’s hopefully special? Wages? Ole sweet talked him? He always wanted to live in England? Could be many reasons, but I won’t be convinced either until he signs.True. I'd take this if thats what happens but personally I won't be convinced that Rabiot is coming on a free till he signs. Most top clubs are probably looking at him and its hard to see why hed pick us
Solid goldI can tell. I hope its a nice crown you have.
Levy would never sell us Eriksen, Rabiot comes with his own set of issues and although I'm all for giving Fred time he is largely unproven. And we still would have feck all depth.if we sell Pogba:
Rabiot-Matic-Fred
------Eriksen------
That Kinda role.
Before anyone jumps on this post this is just to give an example...
Why would he care if he can go to Madrid, or Barcelona and do something similar? Madrid especially are going to have a rebuild under a French legendChance to be part of something being built that’s hopefully special?
I mean we're talking about one of our core players leaving because he doesn't get the wages he wants, its hardly likely that we're going to appease a moody guy coming in on a free transfer especially with Sanchez's wages. I bet if we do sign him his wages will have to be near what we're paying Sanchez which would be a crazy thing to do.Wages?
Ander is a good player and could be an important player for PSG just like he is for us. But they do seem to have several other good options in midfield, especially after recently buying Paredes. PSG were also linked with Gueye before the Ander rumours, so it would certainly seem like they're interested in a very good ball winner with those 2 being the best in the premier league this season.I will say though, PSG have shown in the past that they have the temptation to be childish and vindictive; the owners comments about how they will sign the best players of whoever tries to sign their players, going after Neymar after Barca registered interest in Veratti/T Silva, posting a picture of Veratti laughing after they beat Barca etc.
It seems a bit tinfoil hat but I can imagine them going after Herrera because Rabiot is coming to us. On the balance of all the midfielders available in world football, and a club with an unlimited budget, I don’t really see the big appeal in why PSG would want Herrera.
Levy would never sell us Eriksen, Rabiot comes with his own set of issues and although I'm all for giving Fred time he is largely unproven. And we still would have feck all depth.
Before anyone jumps on this post this is just to give an example...