DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
They probably paid Ed to resign.And yet we gave contract extensions to Jones, Smalling and Young.
They probably paid Ed to resign.And yet we gave contract extensions to Jones, Smalling and Young.
Are they on 200k though? We aren't letting him go, he's choosing to leave. We offered a generous contract. If Jones and Smalling rejected I'm sure they'd also be out the doorAnd yet we gave contract extensions to Jones, Smalling and Young.
From the reports we have given one to Herrera too. Ed can't force him to sign on gunpoint.And yet we gave contract extensions to Jones, Smalling and Young.
We have. It is PSG that is the fly in the ointment. He asked us to match it, even I think that is unrealistic by him.From the reports we have given one to Herrera too. Ed can't force him to sign on gunpoint.
I'm hoping he does, but he has to be sensible about it.Looks like I’m the only one here that believes he’ll end up renewing.
All three players have a cumulative wage of 270k or so. I would rather have Herrera on 150k.... I think that's what he's being offered at PSG.Are they on 200k though? We aren't letting him go, he's choosing to leave. We offered a generous contract. If Jones and Smalling rejected I'm sure they'd also be out the door
A 2+1 contract on around 150k is about right I think. Anything more is asking for too much, imo.We have. It is PSG that is the fly in the ointment. He asked us to match it, even I think that is unrealistic by him.
He's not being paid as to what his worth is.... After Pogba, he's our best player and not to mention, he's our only captain material sort of player. His leadership will be a great loss.From the reports we have given one to Herrera too. Ed can't force him to sign on gunpoint.
We gave Phil Flipping Jones a 5 year contract which is probably his counter argument.Aren’t there reports that PSG have offered him a five year contract? If that’s what he wants from us then it’s definitely time to say goodbye.
I agree. It isn't even the money with PSG, it is the 5 year contract that I find a bit baffling. Ander is about energy, but he does tire 3/4 through a game and unless they do Ole training, it won't improve, it will get worse.A 2+1 contract on around 150k is about right I think. Anything more is asking for too much, imo.
I agree. They are doing it to be annoying.PSG are clearly pissed about getting knocked out of the CL by us like that, offering a 30 year old a 5 year contract on 200k a week?
Successfully so too! Another clear problem with oil state clubs.I agree. They are doing it to be annoying.
A players of his quality at his age doesn't deserve much more.He's not being paid as to what his worth is.... After Pogba, he's our best player and not to mention, he's our only captain material sort of player. His leadership will be a great loss.
You think they are doing it may be because we have already signed Rabiot? I wouldn't put it past them. They have a history of fecking with clubs who try to sign their players.I agree. They are doing it to be annoying.
Jones is a 27 year old CB. He will have longetivity throughout the duration of his contract. Whether you rate his quality or not is a different matter, but he will be the same player for pretty much this entire contract.We gave Phil Flipping Jones a 5 year contract which is probably his counter argument.
Don't know. Herrera is far too nice for them. Not on the pitch mind you.You think they are doing it may be because we have already signed Rabiot? I wouldn't put it past them. They have a history of fecking with clubs who try to sign their players.
I don't think he's being offered 200k for a week. But they've got a 30m player for free whose still performing.... Not a bad player to have on your bench when injuries hit the squad.PSG are clearly pissed about getting knocked out of the CL by us like that, offering a 30 year old a 5 year contract on 200k a week?
They probably thought if they give Jones a five year contract, they might get 50 games out of him if they are lucky.Jones is a 27 year old CB. He will have longetivity throughout the duration of his contract. Whether you rate his quality or not is a different matter, but he will be the same player for pretty much this entire contract.
Herrera is a 29 year old midfielder who will be 30 before the start of next season. His main trait is his energy on the field. That is going to fade, likely after the next two years, if so long. Once his energy levels go, he is pretty much useless. To give a five year contract to a player like that is madness. It’s not the same situation as Jones.
I’m not saying he should be offered a 5 year contract that would be madness but offer him a 3 plus 1. Again we don’t know is it the length or the wages that are the issue with him.Jones is a 27 year old CB. He will have longetivity throughout the duration of his contract. Whether you rate his quality or not is a different matter, but he will be the same player for pretty much this entire contract.
Herrera is a 29 year old midfielder who will be 30 before the start of next season. His main trait is his energy on the field. That is going to fade, likely after the next two years, if so long. Once his energy levels go, he is pretty much useless. To give a five year contract to a player like that is madness. It’s not the same situation as Jones.
Don't you think you're overrating him here? We're talking about a midfielder that can't pass out of pressureHe's not being paid as to what his worth is.... After Pogba, he's our best player and not to mention, he's our only captain material sort of player. His leadership will be a great loss.
150k isn't much considering we have Sanchez whose done nothing apart from playing the piano and he gets paid 500k or so.... Herrera actually puts in match winning performances more consistently for us. Once again... Sanchez was 30 years of age when he was offered 500k....A players of his quality at his age doesn't deserve much more.
I meant best midfield player.... not really overrating him. And out of our entire squad, Herrera actually deserves to be captain ahead of freaking Young, Smalling and even Pogba.Don't you think you're overrating him here? We're talking about a midfielder that can't pass out of pressure
Think we really have to ignore Sanchez. That was just utter stupidity on our part.150k isn't much considering we have Sanchez whose done nothing apart from playing the piano and he gets paid 500k or so.... Herrera actually puts in match winning performances more consistently for us. Once again... Sanchez was 30 years of age when he was offered 500k....
This. You can't use a clear and obvious mistake as a benchmark unless the goal is to make more mistakes in the futureThink we really have to ignore Sanchez. That was just utter stupidity on our part.
Ahh apologies, the tone of your initial post made me think that you thought we should give him a 5 year contract because we gave one to Jones. Apologies if that wasn’t what you meant.I’m not saying he should be offered a 5 year contract that would be madness but offer him a 3 plus 1. Again we don’t know is it the length or the wages that are the issue with him.
They probably thought if they give Jones a five year contract, they might get 50 games out of him if they are lucky.
They might be average but squad players are just as important as your big names. Also, you need the right mentalities and personalities, if these guys keep their heads down, work hard and are a positive influence around the place it's an easy decision to make.And yet we gave contract extensions to Jones, Smalling and Young.
Problem is these "squad players" are our first team players. We have way too much filler in this bloated squad of averageness.They might be average but squad players are just as important as your big names. Also, you need the right mentalities and personalities, if these guys keep their heads down, work hard and are a positive influence around the place it's an easy decision to make.
They are right now, they may not be next season. We will improve on as many positions as possible this summer but I wouldn't be surprised to see a back line of Dalot, Lindelöf, Smalling and Shaw next season. I've already said we'll look to go top heavy in the summer as we'll all regard high scoring games as 'progress', not clean sheets.Problem is these "squad players" are our first team players. We have way too much filler in this bloated squad of averageness.
You still probably have to replace those three players, however, so you might still get close to those wages and more than likely have to pay transfer fees.All three players have a cumulative wage of 270k or so. I would rather have Herrera on 150k.... I think that's what he's being offered at PSG.
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All signs point to this deal being done months ago, at least in principle. Would take a lot now to come back from it I think.I think he'll end up renewing. All this PSG tall sounds like posturing. There'll be a load of folk on here backtracking if he does.
Everything is a big joke to himLingard being Lingard I see