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Julian Assange arrested in Ecuadorian Embassy

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Except to this day there never were any charges, only a preliminary investigation where the prosecutor has been reprimanded for deliberately delaying the proceedings. She was the one who gave Assange permission to leave Sweden.
 

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There are no charges against him in Sweden. There was a preliminary investigation that has been dropped twice.
The inquiry into three of the lesser allegations were dropped because that statute of limitations had passed. The inquiry into the more serious charge was essentially put on ice because Assange locked himself in the Ecuadorian embassy, and Sweden couldn't see a trial ever happening.
 

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Assange stuck in a room for 7 years with no route out.

Helps get trump elected.

Trump gets him extradited on minor charges.

Assange gets deal, gets 4 years, serves 2. Stuck in a different room for 2 years with a clear end in sight.

Assange free man.

Trump and Russia claim proof that they are not working with Assange when in reality they get him free.
 

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Assange stuck in a room for 7 years with no route out.

Helps get trump elected.

Trump gets him extradited on minor charges.

Assange gets deal, gets 4 years, serves 2. Stuck in a different room for 2 years with a clear end in sight.

Assange free man.

Trump and Russia claim proof that they are not working with Assange when in reality they get him free.
Movie gets made about Assange's time in prison.

Assange stars as Assange.

Gets embroiled in a love triangle with co-star Pamela Anderson and her partner Adil Rami (bloody hell really?).

Rami invites the Marseille ultras to defend his honour.

Assange teams up with Patrica Evra to take them all down.

Turns out it was a movie all along with Assange playing Assange.

Evra reveals he loves this game.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't consider the alleged victim of a rape requesting that the investigation into Assange is resumed, without any prior knowledge of his impending arrest, to be an appendage of the American Secret Services. Any attempt to diminish these allegations is disgraceful to be quite honest, Assange should be extradited to Sweden to face charges and a trial.
Disgraceful? Haha do you even have knowledge of the case? Please read it before saying something that outlandish.
 

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For me the military and CIA got really mad about the leaks and wasn't hard to convince Trump's administration to get him, now for me he is guilty if he was part of hacking the governments servers and not guilty if he asked Manning for more documents, about the rape accusations.. Sweden really has some strange laws and accusing him of rape only because he didn't use the condom is a bit crazy. Maybe banning him from Sweden and a heavy fine would do it.
 

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We humans really don't deserve good things and nice people. The reaction here says it all.

Assange and Wikileaks gave us average Joes more ACTUAL news into conducts of corrupt government activities all around the world and here we have people rejoicing over his arrest and potentially being put to the chair, just because in 2016 he released damaging info to Hillary's campaign...the same psycho woman who jokes about droning Julian.

That made all the so-called Liberals and Progressives to completely forget all else Wikileaks has brought to our lives and attention. From causing revolutions during the Arab Spring (Tunisia being the first Wikileaks revolution), mass surveillance programs affecting our daily lives, war crimes committed by beacons of "liberal democracy" and "free world" like US and UK, and also misconducts and corruption of governments and regimes that people accuse Assange of doing bidding for (Russia, Syria, etc..).

Wikileaks has published and broken more IMPACTFUL news that all those no-name wankers on cable news (both left and right) and Twitter who are making fun of Assange' plight and how he looks after 7 years in a closed space. Jealousy has no leaps and bounds.

Credit to Corbyn, Gabbard, and the likes for seeing it as what it is. Mass respect. I'm going to re-share the charge that Trumps DOJ has issued for Arrange's arrest and possible extradition (just a bait and you'll know more charges will be pouring in once he's on US' soil).

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Those of you cheering Assange's arrest...you're siding with Bush, Trumps and Blairs of this world. This is another rare one of Trump's actions that is getting applaud from Hillary and most of media. I wonder why :cool:. You're letting your immense hatred of that c*nt Trump to surpass all the good Assange and Wikileaks done for average ordinary citizens by bringing to our attention to wrongdoings of gov't. Assange's biggest sin in your eyes is publishing, wait for it, TRUE material and documents regarding who Hillary actually is (the same woman joking to assassinate Assange). Mindblowing...absolutely insane. We truly are living in the peak clown world :houllier:

In other news, IMF confirmed $4.2 Billion loans for Ecuador a few weeks ago...AND Facebook unpublished the page of Rafael Correa (ex-Ecuador pres. who called Moreno the biggest traitor in Lat-Am history yesterday for doing this) yesterday. must be a coincidence. :wenger:

I can't wait for our dystopian 1984-esque style world that awaits us soon with gov't, tech monopolies, AI, intelligence agencies, spy programs all teaming up with no resistance to "protect" us for wrong-think and fake news. That's exactly what we deserve.
 

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@Hanks I'm cheering because an alleged rapist who went on the run for seven years to avoid facing the judiciary process has been arrested and may face justice for the allegations. I have no problem with some of what Wikileaks has exposed, except for when it puts the 'average Joes' (as you put it) in the direct line of fire, in which case I think it's irresponsible.
 

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What have they really got on him . Love to see him do a George Galloway in front of congress.
 

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This is one of those topics where a black and white view is the wrong approach in my opinion. Its possible to think that, say, the leak about US military attacks on civillians was in the public interest, while at the same time recognising that leaking information taken from the military is fraut with hazards and that any sensible Government would try and prevent it. Likewise its possible to think that Assange will very likely face an unfair process in the US while at the same time thinking it was fairly disgusting how he evaded his sexual misconduct charges in Sweden. This is a complex issue and leaping straight to one side or the other leaves people defending some fairly rotten positions.
 

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Assange stuck in a room for 7 years with no route out.

Helps get trump elected.

Trump gets him extradited on minor charges.

Assange gets deal, gets 4 years, serves 2. Stuck in a different room for 2 years with a clear end in sight.

Assange free man.

Trump and Russia claim proof that they are not working with Assange when in reality they get him free.
Dinosaur eats man.

Woman inherits the earth.
 

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Why though? What does it have to do with us? We're just pandering to the US government IMO
We have an extradition treaty with the US.

The way that works is they send over an extradition request. We arrest the person involved and try them to see if the extradition request should be granted. Both sides put their case to the court and a decision is reached.

To not follow the process would be basically taring up the extradition treaty.
 

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We have an extradition treaty with the US.

The way that works is they send over an extradition request. We arrest the person involved and try them to see if the extradition request should be granted. Both sides put their case to the court and a decision is reached.

To not follow the process would be basically taring up the extradition treaty.
I thought we arrested him for skipping bail due to the Sweden charges?
 

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I thought we arrested him for skipping bail due to the Sweden charges?
They arrested him. There was always 2 cases against him 1 skipping bail the other was the extradition request from the US. There could yet be a third case if Sweden were to renew their request for his extradition.

When someone is arrested there can be more than one charge against them and others can be added later.

I'm not saying that he should be extradited to the US. Just that we need to be seen to be following the law on this matter if we are going to keep the extradition treaty.
 

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They arrested him. There was always 2 cases against him 1 skipping bail the other was the extradition request from the US. There could yet be a third case if Sweden were to renew their request for his extradition.

When someone is arrested there can be more than one charge against them and others can be added later.

I'm not saying that he should be extradited to the US. Just that we need to be seen to be following the law on this matter if we are going to keep the extradition treaty.
Fair enough, makes sense thanks

He should absolutely face those charges in Sweden but I don't agree with the US going after him for whistleblowing
 

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@Hanks I'm cheering because an alleged rapist who went on the run for seven years to avoid facing the judiciary process has been arrested and may face justice for the allegations. I have no problem with some of what Wikileaks has exposed, except for when it puts the 'average Joes' (as you put it) in the direct line of fire, in which case I think it's irresponsible.
Apart from he won't stand tria in Sweden as the US are about to cart him off and stitch him up on any charge they think might get through.

If he's guilty he'll avoid it and if he's not-guilty he won't get the chance for the courts to state that. Handy for the pitchfork brigade who already assume his guilt though
 

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I'd more prefer it if we just moved him on, it's an issue for Sweden or America to resolve, not the UK.
 

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I'd more prefer it if we just moved him on, it's an issue for Sweden or America to resolve, not the UK.
If he’s in custody in the UK he first has to serve his time for breaching bail in the UK. Then there is an extradition warrant from the US so the judicial procedure has to be followed to decide whether he can be extradited or not, so both of those are issues for the UK. If the courts decide against extradition then he can go wherever he chooses.
 

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If he’s in custody in the UK he first has to serve his time for breaching bail in the UK. Then there is an extradition warrant from the US so the judicial procedure has to be followed to decide whether he can be extradited or not, so both of those are issues for the UK. If the courts decide against extradition then he can go wherever he chooses.
In reality the issue of bail is minor compared to the extradition, knowing the UK they will want to move him on as quickly as possible. Him being in prison here, when he's been in a similar state for 7 years, won't really achieve much.
 

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Some of the stuff exposed by Wikileaks was significant and important to the public. It's good that these leaks happened.
I also believe that Assange is a gigantic dick who abused a good platform for personal gain and grudges, was part of a conspiracy and should face consequences for that.
The rape charges are a difficult matter. I have no problems at all imagining them to be made up to get rid of him. I also have no problem believing he raped someone.
What I'm trying to say is that I have no idea how to feel about this.
 

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In reality the issue of bail is minor compared to the extradition, knowing the UK they will want to move him on as quickly as possible. Him being in prison here, when he's been in a similar state for 7 years, won't really achieve much.
Well they can’t move him on until the extradition case is sorted, one way or the other and that’s up to the courts. It’s unfortunate that when Sweden issued an international arrest warrant for him he chose to hand himself in to U.K. police, but he did and we are stuck with it now.
 

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Apart from he won't stand tria in Sweden as the US are about to cart him off and stitch him up on any charge they think might get through.

If he's guilty he'll avoid it and if he's not-guilty he won't get the chance for the courts to state that. Handy for the pitchfork brigade who already assume his guilt though
I sincerely hope that’s not what transpires, after all there is precedence in the British courts to prevent extradition on the charges he faces in the USA. I personally hope he stands trial in Sweden, however I do acknowledge that’s unlikely.
 

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@Hanks I'm cheering because an alleged rapist who went on the run for seven years to avoid facing the judiciary process has been arrested and may face justice for the allegations.
That's not what's happening. I don't know how you can cheer without really knowing much about the situation.
 

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I sincerely hope that’s not what transpires, after all there is precedence in the British courts to prevent extradition on the charges he faces in the USA. I personally hope he stands trial in Sweden, however I do acknowledge that’s unlikely.
I think UK won't extradite if they face the death penalty... But what he's charged with is max five years in prison?... If there is sufficient evidence to adhere to the standards agreed then I think it's justified to send him to either, however, isn't the Sweden case currently closed so really only one show in town at the moment
 

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This is one of those topics where a black and white view is the wrong approach in my opinion. Its possible to think that, say, the leak about US military attacks on civillians was in the public interest, while at the same time recognising that leaking information taken from the military is fraut with hazards and that any sensible Government would try and prevent it. Likewise its possible to think that Assange will very likely face an unfair process in the US while at the same time thinking it was fairly disgusting how he evaded his sexual misconduct charges in Sweden. This is a complex issue and leaping straight to one side or the other leaves people defending some fairly rotten positions.
Beat me to it. Assange is not the Saint he's being painted as in here. He has been a part of an organisation that has done very good things, and may actually continue doing so. He's also a dodgy individual....
 

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Assange stuck in a room for 7 years with no route out.

Helps get trump elected.

Trump gets him extradited on minor charges.

Assange gets deal, gets 4 years, serves 2. Stuck in a different room for 2 years with a clear end in sight.

Assange free man.

Trump and Russia claim proof that they are not working with Assange when in reality they get him free.
Trump is indeed playing 5D chess.