Solskjær press conference vs Everton (A)
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Part of good man management is being able to dress down a player when needed without alienating them. That is where Mourinho failed. His criticism was often fair and on the money but the way he delivered it put players noses out of joint. That’s partly down to player mentality perhaps being a bit soft but I hope Ole doesn’t fall into the same trap.
Mourinho has nothing to do with Martial strolling about and not giving a feck. We saw Mourinho cheer the players on countless times of the sidelines and it did nothing for them. A lot these aren't self motivated, they aren't ready for the fight of football at the top level. Unfortunately we seem to hand out contracts like meal tickets, thats the situation here, there is no pressure to perform. You can underperform, get the manager the sack and get a bumper new contract.
He never said reality check. He said these are not his players entirely and tried to clean his hands off it.
Oh and it must be hard for you guys to accept that ole is still doing better this season with mourinho's players than he did
I think we’ll go for 5, with players leaving and what we already need I think that’ll be a good start.
Stop with that kindergarten stuff.
Well given we targeted and failed to secure four signings in each of the last two summers I would have said that anyone expecting much more than that was being a bit unrealistic.
I suspect last year's lean spending was because of the previous windows where we spent record money on Pogba and Lukaku. It'd probably bitten off huge part of our future transfer budget.
We'll likely be allowed by the Glazers 100+ mil to spend this window again but that will be about 1-2 decent players (as Ole have said).
My prediction is we sign Maguire for crazy money - 70-80mil and that right back from Palace for another 50m and that will be it. Also we'll "try" for Sancho but the price will be too "unrealistic".
We'll likely be allowed by the Glazers 100+ mil to spend this window again but that will be about 1-2 decent players (as Ole have said).
My prediction is we sign Maguire for crazy money - 70-80mil and that right back from Palace for another 50m and that will be it. Also we'll "try" for Sancho but the price will be too "unrealistic".
That would freak me out if this was our only business.
I’m not saying you’re wrong at all, I agree with you on Martial. I’m just saying most people viewed Mourinho’s decisions with a narrative in mind that he’s wasting potential i.e. Salah, KdB. And that he’s turning everyone against him.
It's an insult to compare ole and mourinhos words. Ole is basically saying we need to raise the standard and leading by example. Did anyone forget mourinho's words on L Shaw for eg and show me where ole said something similar?
It won't be
What age are you? 5?
So your response is - you guys are sad -?
Martial? I suppose at that time the club had lost faith with Mourinho. The football was crap and Martial was actually playing pretty well while this was happening wasn't he? They were planning for the future. I don't remember other examples.
Smalling and Jones I don't know. Maybe they will try to sell one in the summer and get some decent money for a change? When fit, both are good signings for non top 6 clubs. Jones is only 26/27 incredibly.
Young was probably given his 1 year extension because we had Dalot who wasn't quite ready, so he was seen as a way to introduce him gradually. His performances at the time weren't as terrible as they are now. The club will probably see this as yet more evidence that they shouldn't be giving out contracts to over 30s.
Mourinho came 2nd last season and unless you have some kind of time machine you have no idea where Mourinho would finish this season.We might be in danger of dropping out of top 6 tbf. I would lose any lingering hope for the club.
Good presser from Ole, the question asked about Martial was fair enough but could just have easily have been asked about Rashford, who is playing like he thinks he's way better than he actually is, but of course the English press won't single out one of Southgate's golden boys.
As for the transfer stuff, I hope Ole is underplaying it like Fergie would do, because this 2 players thing will see us exactly where we are now, scraping at the edge of the cliff to hang on to top 4.
As for the transfer stuff, I hope Ole is underplaying it like Fergie would do, because this 2 players thing will see us exactly where we are now, scraping at the edge of the cliff to hang on to top 4.
Nevermind the Caf, the team will be in trouble if we don't bring at least 4 in, this side is so understacked on genuine quality.
I'm glad he's had some strong words for the players this morning and I'm glad that the hammering from Barcelona hurt him as much as it did us because some of our players just look like they accept mediocracy now.
Glad he mentioned about Martial as well. I maintain that he will not be our Salah or KDB, he's more likely to be our Anelka than anything else, and if that's the case, sell him based on potential this summer because sooner or later potential isn't a commodity when a player reaches a certain age. Same goes for Pogba and especially De Gea if he's not signed that contract by June.
As shit as Sanchez is, I'd rather have him in the team running his bollocks off than a statue of Martial on that left side.
Glad he mentioned about Martial as well. I maintain that he will not be our Salah or KDB, he's more likely to be our Anelka than anything else, and if that's the case, sell him based on potential this summer because sooner or later potential isn't a commodity when a player reaches a certain age. Same goes for Pogba and especially De Gea if he's not signed that contract by June.
As shit as Sanchez is, I'd rather have him in the team running his bollocks off than a statue of Martial on that left side.
I think solsjaer needs a reality check if he thinks young, Jones and smalling are good enough for man utd.
There's no time machine but if you think that we'd have been 3 points off top4 with just five games to go then you need to give your head a wobble
I can't see it City & Liverpool are clearly the best 2 teams, then Spurs if they can keep hold of Pochettino, we are the next level along with Chelsea and Arsenal. We are 15-20 points better a season than the rest
unless we have a nightmare season. I'm not in the OSG camp but we are too good to fall out of the top 6.
Yeah let's expand on a stupidly negative assumption and then keep on making posts on the basis of that. Well done.
With Mourinho in charge we were 11 points off top 4 by Christmas, judging by that we'd have been over 20 points off by the end of the season.
That prediction would never happen, it's baseless. Maguire for £80m ffs
people absolutely love being pessimistic, in reality by going off any half reliable source we're looking for attackers, midfielders and defenders, not just two defenders.
Nailed it.
We signed three and Sanchez was the most expensive signing the club has ever made even if it happened in January and we got a couple of crap months out of him for 25m. We also fecked up our wage bill with that transfer.
One cant disregard Sanchez from our transfer business last summer just because he arrived a couple of months early.
He was extremely expensive and Mourinho is on record saying that there would be no more offensive recruitments during the summer just after strutting him about piano playing and everything.
That he turned out not performing and made Mourinho start crying for even more players when he already had convinced the board to expand the wage bill in January and take us past City in that regard is on Mourinho and no one else.
Thats wrong, if Mourinho got what he wanted the team would of been third, the only reason we are three points of is because of Chelsea and Tottenham poor form, and the team would of been 6 to 9 points of the top 2.Also what you are forgetting is the team was lucky to get a result at Burnley,Southampton,West Ham and Watford.
What 3?
Yikes.
It was actually four. Sanchez, Fred, Grant and we also brought back Pereira to occupy a place in the squad. Four new squad members of a squad of 25 is a normal turnover. Sanchez and Fred together were ridiculously expensive and my point was that you cant just disregard Sanchez. If we have not gotten him in January there would easily had been room for two or three more signings in the summer. Mourinho chose to get him early, paid over the odds; and its pretty obvious that he knew that the transfer would limit him in the summer. Then. And then he cried about the situation.
I'd like you to point out where I said it would happen, before you make worthless posts like that. Maybe you should think before replying and consider what happened in the previous summer window. Then remember who is in charge of the club. You could also watch the press conference where Ole states several times that we aren't looking at massive changes over the summer and has previously stated there would be "one or two" signings. The phrase "we have to be realistic" is used - always a sign of big investment ahead right! He also talks about how the current players need to prove themselves, and how the next preseason will be important for that, implying that we might be giving yet another year to dross in the squad instead of replacing them.
I wasn't agreeing with the prices, just the notion of buying an overrated CB. Though considering the reported price last season when Jose wanted him was £75m it wasn't far off. I never said we weren't looking for other players or that we wouldn't buy them. Simply made an observation that if we have a terrible transfer window - AGAIN - after all the talk and optimism beforehand, I will lose what little faith I had in the club to turn things around.That prediction would never happen, it's baseless. Maguire for £80m ffs
The revisionism around here at the moment is hilarious.
We looked no better than a midtable side before Ole arrived and promptly led us to 10 wins on the bounce and into the top four. A few defeats later and crows are circling above him.
We were a laughing stock under Mourinho.
If we bring in a decent RB anyone think he might use Dalot as a right winger instead of buying one? He has the attribute to beat a man and can put in a good cross.
We might focus on bringing in a central midfielder( Defensive minded) and another creative midfielder that can score goals.
We might focus on bringing in a central midfielder( Defensive minded) and another creative midfielder that can score goals.
My post was based on a 'nightmare season', that was the whole point. If we sign two players and potentially lose De Gea, Pogba and Herrera it's going to be a very bad season. Our forwards have been horrific recently, our CBs aren't good enough and neither is Maguire. Romero is rubbish despite the overrating on here. Pogba is our best player despite his current form.
But yeah, everyone's right, we could never finish 7th. Never. That would literally never happen under any circumstance would it. Oh, wait...
Feck all discussions who we want to be a champion .
I want Manchester United to be a champion and to win the CL , so lets focus on us and go for the 4th spot .
COME ON , OLE , MAKE IT HAPPEN !
I want Manchester United to be a champion and to win the CL , so lets focus on us and go for the 4th spot .
COME ON , OLE , MAKE IT HAPPEN !
We were never signing 7 players.
Christ. The state of this post and you.
So you think there's a slight possibility that we're gonna sell De Gea and Pogba and then sign only two players? Do you even get out your home or do you fear that you might get hit by a meteor.