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It just means the baddies own a helicopter. Final episode, a set of searchlights lights up the night sky with a letter H, and the last scene is someone in a senior police officer uniform dangling from the rope ladder it lowers. It turns, giving us a tantalising glimpse of the poorly lit face, then zooms away.
 

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Why am I even in here...AAAAGGGHHHH

I've only watched 2 episodes this series...
 

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'H' is for 'Hack'.
 

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Anyone else finding some of the dialogue a bit annoying at times. A lot of repetitiveness, especially from Stephen Graham. "The top brass mate!"

Also the bit at the end when she was like "before we trade the livestock" was just weird. "Before we make the trade" would have been fine. Nobody would actually call them livestock in a normal sentence. It made more sense when Miroslav was saying it but not McQueen.
 

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Anyone else finding some of the dialogue a bit annoying at times. A lot of repetitiveness, especially from Stephen Graham. "The top brass mate!"

Also the bit at the end when she was like "before we trade the livestock" was just weird. "Before we make the trade" would have been fine. Nobody would actually call them livestock in a normal sentence. It made more sense when Miroslav was saying it but not McQueen.
I don’t think dialogue has ever been a great strength of the show.
 

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Anyone else finding some of the dialogue a bit annoying at times. A lot of repetitiveness, especially from Stephen Graham. "The top brass mate!"

Also the bit at the end when she was like "before we trade the livestock" was just weird. "Before we make the trade" would have been fine. Nobody would actually call them livestock in a normal sentence. It made more sense when Miroslav was saying it but not McQueen.
The episode last week (or maybe the week before) must of been the most instances of "bent copper" being said it seemed every other word that came out his mouth was bent coppers.

I don't know what they'll do regarding who is H, I think they may question Hastings and think he isn't involved then it turns out he isn't and they drag it in to next series.

Corbett must of had something on him that will still come out otherwise it's a waste of the main character for 4 episodes really as good as the last 10 mins was.
 

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Anyone else finding some of the dialogue a bit annoying at times. A lot of repetitiveness, especially from Stephen Graham. "The top brass mate!"

Also the bit at the end when she was like "before we trade the livestock" was just weird. "Before we make the trade" would have been fine. Nobody would actually call them livestock in a normal sentence. It made more sense when Miroslav was saying it but not McQueen.
The livestock line had come up earlier in the show, her repeating the line there was in reference to the earlier dialogue.
 

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The livestock line had come up earlier in the show, her repeating the line there was in reference to the earlier dialogue.
I know but it felt shoehorned into the sentence.
 

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The writing is really obsessed with some key phrases, like "mate", "bent copper" and "livestock" - it's like they think the average viewer is mentally challenged and they really need to hammer it into their skulls that Steve and Kate are friendly, that Corbett dislikes bent coppers and that those evil gangsters happen to lack empathy for their female victims.
As someone who thinks himself able to spot these complex "subtleties" of the plot it can sometimes get annoying.

They are pointing us so forcefully into the direction of Hastings that he'll be either used as a patsy or the show has really gone down the drain. I think the biggest problem of the plot at this point is that DSI Hastings has the right to be questioned by an officer at least on rank his superior, which is Steve's kryptonite.
 
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The writing is really obsessed with some key phrases, like "mate", "bent copper" and "livestock" - it's like they think the average viewer is mentally challenged and they really need to hammer it into their skulls that Steve and Kate are friendly, that Corbett dislikes bent coppers and that those evil gangsters happen to lack empathy for their female victims.
As someone who thinks himself able to spot these complex "subtleties" of the plot it can sometimes get annoying.

They are pointing us so forcefully into the direction of Hastings that he'll be either used as a patsy or the show has really gone down the drain. I think the biggest problem of the plot at this point is that DSI Hastings has the right to be question by an officer at least on rank his superior, which is Steve's kryptonite.
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Also thought of you @Solius after they said mate about 10 times in a minute :lol:
Felt bad when she responded to one of his by just calling him Steve back.

Ted is not bent. Don't think the other two are either. Even more baffled about McQueen now.
 

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Never seen this. Is it worth watching it? The boxset on BBC is up til Wednesday.
 

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Thought that was a weirdly crap ep. The dialogue and acting - especially at the beginning - seemed unusually poor, the “Arnott can’t get his willy up” subplot was not exactly gripping, and even the interrogation was largely about the details of Teds dodgy real estate deal which I’ve never quite understood anyway... plus the idea that he’s being framed seemed unconvincing at that point, since really all we’ve seen is him willyfully getting himself into stupid situations.

Set up for a good last ep though.
 

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Felt bad when she responded to one of his by just calling him Steve back.

Ted is not bent. Don't think the other two are either. Even more baffled about McQueen now.
I think Mc Queen is just struggling to deal with how brutal the OCG world is, and she's not a cop or anything.

I don't get how she arrested Ted at the end there. She said it was clear he had motive for killing Corbett but I didn't get what the hell the motive was? Because he was a cop and out to get H? That means he would definitely have to be H and they have no proof of that.
 

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I think Mc Queen is just struggling to deal with how brutal the OCG world is, and she's not a cop or anything.

I don't get how she arrested Ted at the end there. She said it was clear he had motive for killing Corbett but I didn't get what the hell the motive was? Because he was a cop and out to get H? That means he would definitely have to be H and they have no proof of that.
Yeah I felt like they've edited out a bit of that (or somehow the writers forgot), the motive was that he battered his wife.
 

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I thought the motive was clear. Hastings wanted the rat dead because they suspect Hastings to be the bent ring leader. No?
 

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Thought that was a weirdly crap ep. The dialogue and acting - especially at the beginning - seemed unusually poor, the “Arnott can’t get his willy up” subplot was not exactly gripping, and even the interrogation was largely about the details of Teds dodgy real estate deal which I’ve never quite understood anyway... plus the idea that he’s being framed seemed unconvincing at that point, since really all we’ve seen is him willyfully getting himself into stupid situations.

Set up for a good last ep though.
Think the whole series has been weirdly crap tbh. Enjoyable enough because of the action, but far removed from what made it great in the first place and much more similar in tone to Bodyguard.

The interview was also weirdly inconsistent with things the show has shown us in the past. The prison scene from last week episode clearly showed CCTV behind Hastings and a prison warden behind Lee Banks, so I'm not sure why there was such focus on how there were no witnesses, nor why Hastings did not mention that there were.
 

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I thought it was more no witness or recording to what was said, not that the conversation took place.
 

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I thought it was more no witness or recording to what was said, not that the conversation took place.
Yeah, but they specifically showed that there was a witness and they didn't make the point of asking him to leave the room when Hastings started talking to Banks. What we were shown was that there was a witness to the contents of the conversation itself.
 

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Thought that was a weirdly crap ep. The dialogue and acting - especially at the beginning - seemed unusually poor, the “Arnott can’t get his willy up” subplot was not exactly gripping, and even the interrogation was largely about the details of Teds dodgy real estate deal which I’ve never quite understood anyway... plus the idea that he’s being framed seemed unconvincing at that point, since really all we’ve seen is him willyfully getting himself into stupid situations.

Set up for a good last ep though.
Think you got the wrong end of the stick there. It was chronic back pain that put out his fire.

Anyway, thought the ep was decent enough.
 

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I’m still calling Arnott or Kate.
there's no way it's Arnott, everything he's ever done points to him being as straight as they come (except for not being able to get a boner with that absolute babe amirite?). It would be a stupid twist.

Kate, maybe, but again, what have we ever seen from her to say it's her, other than that she used to be undercover too. I think it would be a stupid route to go down purely for shock value, problem is that H has been so bigged up now that anything less than a major character will be a disappointment for the viewer.

I agree with others that this series has been pretty weak compared to the others. A lot of it has felt forced and the underlying plot is a total mess. Trying to integrate all of the plots from previous season's into it has made it crazy confusing and annoying at times. It's still really enjoyable TV, but not what it was before.
 

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there's no way it's Arnott, everything he's ever done points to him being as straight as they come (except for not being able to get a boner with that absolute babe amirite?). It would be a stupid twist.

Kate, maybe, but again, what have we ever seen from her to say it's her, other than that she used to be undercover too. I think it would be a stupid route to go down purely for shock value, problem is that H has been so bigged up now that anything less than a major character will be a disappointment for the viewer.

I agree with others that this series has been pretty weak compared to the others. A lot of it has felt forced and the underlying plot is a total mess. Trying to integrate all of the plots from previous season's into it has made it crazy confusing and annoying at times. It's still really enjoyable TV, but not what it was before.
Yeah H has to be someone who's played a significant part in the show. I reckon Gill is involved somehow and this plot carries on to season 6.

I think it's been a weird series some really good moments but the previous ones did well with the same structure it always had they've gone a different approach this time with there being no actual bent copper by the last episode. I think it's still been very good overall but it one of the weaker series
 

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there's no way it's Arnott, everything he's ever done points to him being as straight as they come (except for not being able to get a boner with that absolute babe amirite?). It would be a stupid twist.

Kate, maybe, but again, what have we ever seen from her to say it's her, other than that she used to be undercover too. I think it would be a stupid route to go down purely for shock value, problem is that H has been so bigged up now that anything less than a major character will be a disappointment for the viewer.

I agree with others that this series has been pretty weak compared to the others. A lot of it has felt forced and the underlying plot is a total mess. Trying to integrate all of the plots from previous season's into it has made it crazy confusing and annoying at times. It's still really enjoyable TV, but not what it was before.
I agree, particularly on the bolded. Kate as H would certainly be a shock but would cheapen more or less every story line in every preceding series. We're already at the stage where most of the coppers they've introduced are bent so the mastermind having been a key Internal Affairs officer for the best part of five years wouldn't show the police force in the best light :lol:
 

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Anyone else finding some of the dialogue a bit annoying at times. A lot of repetitiveness, especially from Stephen Graham. "The top brass mate!"

Also the bit at the end when she was like "before we trade the livestock" was just weird. "Before we make the trade" would have been fine. Nobody would actually call them livestock in a normal sentence. It made more sense when Miroslav was saying it but not McQueen.
The one rank superior line is the most annoying line in tv.