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A Dress Rehearsal for Our Deaths
Yom Kippur asks us to look our mortality in the face. Can we sustain the stare?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/opinion/yom-kippur-death-rehearsal-morality.html
Yom Kippur asks us to look our mortality in the face. Can we sustain the stare?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/opinion/yom-kippur-death-rehearsal-morality.html
He needs a jet tied to his ass.
For anyone interested, this is a permanent live stream from the Kotel/Western Wall in Jerusalem - https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/israel/jerusalem-district/jerusalem/western-wall.html
The old testament mechanism is unpracticeable (by modern standard). Eg burnt offerings, death sentencing by stoning, an eye for an eye, etc.
Hence the lord gave us a better deal. He bought the whole batch of tickets to heaven by paying the price with the crucifixion and suffering of Jesus. It's now up to him who he wants to give them to. At least that's how i perceived christianity.
Wow, this must be one of the most arrogant comments ever: "This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey."
Hope it helps her find peace.
My sentiments exactly.
The Shi'i pilgrimage of Arba'een is on right now, drawing around 20 million to Karbala, making it the second largest religious gathering in the world after the Kumbh Mela:
Live stream - https://livestream.com/accounts/11436227/events/3998452
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Early signs are not promising unfortunately:
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This is the 'alim who oversaw her shahada (he's a fairly well known figure in Irish media and a pretty good guy all round):
That's sad. I hope she finds the help she needs.
I'm 40, I've followed her all my life and I'm more than aware of her history of "issues". I was really hoping the daily routine would calm her down a bit, but alas.Early signs are not promising unfortunately:
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This is the 'alim who oversaw her shahada (he's a fairly well known figure in Irish media and a pretty good guy all round):
On another note, I've been debating people on reddit for some time over the use of "white" to refer to non-muslims, it honestly gets on my tits. I've got Bosnian and Albanian friends and it makes me so embarrassed to hear other muslims talk as if white is the opposite of Muslim.
Here's a reply I saved from a few months back when I railed against this, I still can't get my head around it.
Here's a reply I saved from a few months back when I railed against this, I still can't get my head around it.
From the same source as above, this one is more problematic though...
On a lighter note:
(this is the trot groups alone, not counting the other MLs or orthodox Marxists)
Just American?On a lighter note:
(this is the trot groups alone, not counting the other MLs or orthodox Marxists)
Yes
Splitters.On a lighter note:
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I can see your point.
When they use the word 'white' in a religious sense they seem to mean 'non believer'
Non believer in what. Their God.
It is a class thing:
My God is better than yours.
Islam is a better religion than yours.
I am a believer and you are not.
It is stupid and pathetic and some people use their God to justify terrible and appalling acts. Muslims kill Muslims who don't believe in THEIR version of Islam.
That reply you quoted is also stupid. DJ Khaled is a "white" Muslim then? "White" Muslims exist not only in the skin color context but there are privileged ones as well.
Anyway, people who throw around these terms "white/black" are kinda dumb imo. You travel the world and you see it's stupid to put people in buckets. Is it just by skin color? I've seen whiter Algerians than Italians and Spanish. Is it by region? I've seen white central Asians as well.
Is that the reason they kill them though? People through this around but in most cases (Iran vs Saudi Arabia) there's more to it politically.
Also, what you talked about is common among all human beings. Atheism "I'm better than you religious nuts stuck in the stone age" mentality and the discrimination it comes with. It also becomes a class thing. Idiots are everywhere.
You are right. Idiots are everywhere.
Regarding Saudi Arabia. I have worked there and got the impression that their politics were dominated by both religion and family.
Most practice the very strict Islam and to get anywhere you had to be a member of the dominant family.
Remember the way they punish so called criminals.
Religion and family equals power and power equals money. That is the way it works.
Saudi just used their religion as a medium. If it wasnt Islam theyd use Arabism or something.
That is right. They use religion as an instrument of fear. The same as their families prestige.
Rule by fear and keep the masses ignorant.
Only works for so long though because of the spread of knowledge by the internet.
Taken from the Trump Thread
Today's churches spend a lot of time trying to make society and themselves relevant with the problems and issues that we have now and I'd rather the leaders of churches simply said "Who are we to judge?". Who are we to judge whether homosexuals can be christians and welcome in our congregations? Isn't that a conversation for individuals to have with God when it comes up?
Jesus didn't talk about us having buildings to congregate and worship in, he simply said wherever two or three are gathered in my name...etc. So, you can tell I'm a pretty simple christian after all. Do I go to church, yes, sometimes. Do I think I can tell who a Christian is? Maybe sometimes, maybe not but a man who lies in public office over 10,000 times, well, he is going to have a difficult conversation with God, as I am too.
I'm not a great person to be asking these questions of, I'm not a highly educated Christian, just a pretty simple one but as far as I think I can't really talk much for the church of earlier times except to say that I think it was motivated as I've said before by people who wanted to use it for their own purposes, for power and greed and we struggle to divine what has been altered or not in the Bible's text at times possibly.
Today's churches spend a lot of time trying to make society and themselves relevant with the problems and issues that we have now and I'd rather the leaders of churches simply said "Who are we to judge?". Who are we to judge whether homosexuals can be christians and welcome in our congregations? Isn't that a conversation for individuals to have with God when it comes up?
Jesus didn't talk about us having buildings to congregate and worship in, he simply said wherever two or three are gathered in my name...etc. So, you can tell I'm a pretty simple christian after all. Do I go to church, yes, sometimes. Do I think I can tell who a Christian is? Maybe sometimes, maybe not but a man who lies in public office over 10,000 times, well, he is going to have a difficult conversation with God, as I am too.
That's a fair enough example. And yes, I think a big problem is people in power using the name of God to further their own gain. On the subject of Trump, even I can see the guy is not a Christian. My initial question was also not so much directed at Trump, but the true / untrue believer in general.
Anyway, the Christianity you believe in is something I think even the most atheist person in the world couldn't find a down side too. Be nice to people and don't judge them. Seems fair enough.
Yes. I agree that many people 'in positions of power' do use religion and specifically God to further their own public profile.
I see this more in the USA than some other countries.
They use it almost as a badge of honour although I would expect many members of public to see through this.
If someone is a true Christian (I am not) then they would be expected to follow Christian values.
And it is pretty clear that very few actually do.
In the 21st century it is good that people are permitted to be open minded and I do accept that you have to believe in something.
I now accept the scientific understanding of how both our Universe came into being as well as Evolution and how we all came into being.
It’s that time again, the Hajj is upon us. Here’s a live stream from Mecca:
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You see all these extremely rich christian missionaries flying around in private jets and multi million dollar yachts and TV stations etc. You can see that now in some Muslim preachers too. And of course the some Hindus too. I am sure that religion is not meant to be a get rich and scam instrument to scam the masses in a get rich quick scheme. But it is what it has come to now. Look at the Catholic Church too.
The problem with religion is that there is not a True religion.
Are you sure ?
I'm sure if you check the Torah, Bible, Quran, Gita, and any other book, that there is no mention of using the teachings as a means to get rich off scamming their own versions.
Of course I am sure. Which religious book that is used by any of the main stream religion says you have to scam and get rich? None. Forget about the books no main stream religion says to scam the people and get rich. Every says to be good to others and be humble. Look at the Buddhists too. In every of the Buddhist country one of the richest would be a monk.
Maybe in Europe things are not as bad as in other countries. In India there famous cases of Hindus doing these kind of get rich scams and getting becoming multi millionaires. In Malaysia there is a Muslim preacher who is one of the Muslim get rich scam artist. He owns a TV station and now fleeing from Indian justice. In Thailand it is the same. A monk who owned a private jet too. In the Philippines it the Catholic Church and honestly I am shocked that the public are so gullible where religion is concerned.
It is amazing that poor people go and give their hard earned money to the priests to get rich. The Filipino President has urged the Filipinos not to give their money to the Church.
It's crazy how religion is used as the branch and root of all human stupidity and suffering. It may well be the current opium of the masses, but to get rid of mass human stupidity and suffering you have to get rid of humankind, not religion.